Classic Juggernaut vs Silver Surfer

Started by xmarksthespot5 pages

Originally posted by Roldz
He did? You recall what issue it is.. I had thought him capable only on plasma attacks...
Likewise. I do look forward to seeing the issue for myself. That and I don't think a sonic boom is akin to a high frequency aural attack at all.

Fine giving an explanation of a character's ability and the reason why simply isn't enough? Fine until I get the issue and number. Omit Havok from my list since for some reason we are going off subject and focusing on the minutia of the bigger picture. Would that make people happy now? Banshee and Ironman. Until I get scans on here, let's move on past Havok. Ok, can we get off his sac and move on to the original discussion?

Question since others mentioned this, but arn't skyfather and Elder Gods at the same level? I thought they were the same class, just different name. Am I wrong?

I was always under the assumption that Elders were a bit higher than Skyfathers. It seemed to me that the Templars where virtually unstoppable. Plus in 8th day, Juggy creamed Thor like he was a bug. That would lead me to believe that Cytorrak might wield more might that the Odinson or Odin himself

Very well could be, I always just thought they were the same thing. Just like God goes by several names in comics.

Originally posted by Newjak
Listen people nimrod didn't use simple sonics to put down Juggernaut. He used a high potent frequency weapon from the future that effected Cain's nervous system which stopped him from being able to move and it's effect wouldn't last long. Besides for any other hero to use this attack they would have to know what frequency was being used in the first place.

Next whoever wrote that should know that Cain's body really isn't like a normal humans anymore. Cain did once walk around as nothing more than a skeleton so what is an attack on his nervous system really going to do?

Edit: Plus Cain has used a Thunder Clap before and he didn't knock himself out using it.

Didn't want this getting lost so soon

Originally posted by Newjak
Didn't want this getting lost so soon
Those silly X-Men. Relying on their telepaths to put down Juggernaut, when all they really needed was for Havok to make some sonic booms.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Those silly X-Men. Relying on their telepaths to put down Juggernaut, when all they really needed was for Havok to make some sonic booms.
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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Those silly X-Men. Relying on their telepaths to put down Juggernaut, when all they really needed was for Havok to make some sonic booms.

Was that an attempt at sarcasm?

From marveldirectory.com
Limitations: The Juggernaut does have certain vulnerabilities. He can be affected by mystical forces of sufficient strength. Without his helmet and/or skullcap, both constructed of an unknown mystical metal, he is vulnerable to psionic attacks against his mind. Nimrod, a robot from the future of an alternate Earth, successfully attacked the Juggernaut's mind and nervous system with advanced weaponry producing tight-beam high-frequency sound waves and a synapse dislocate that jammed his neural impulses. However, had the Juggernaut used his force field, perhaps he might have proved invulnerable even to these futuristic weapons.

So what if he did use his force field. Would Nimrod still have been able to knock him out? Also it was not only sound waves but a synapse dislocate that jams his nervous system. Alone sound waves wouldn't do squat

Originally posted by LordFear
From marveldirectory.com
Limitations: The Juggernaut does have certain vulnerabilities. He can be affected by mystical forces of sufficient strength. Without his helmet and/or skullcap, both constructed of an unknown mystical metal, he is vulnerable to psionic attacks against his mind. Nimrod, a robot from the future of an alternate Earth, successfully attacked the Juggernaut's mind and nervous system with advanced weaponry producing tight-beam high-frequency sound waves and a synapse dislocate that jammed his neural impulses. However, had the Juggernaut used his force field, perhaps he might have proved invulnerable even to these futuristic weapons.

So what if he did use his force field. Would Nimrod still have been able to knock him out? Also it was not only sound waves but a synapse dislocate that jams his nervous system. Alone sound waves wouldn't do squat

Welll it's the idea that the attack would have never reached him but would probably have been absorbed by the field.

Anyways like I said it wasn't pure sound that messed Cain up.

gotcha

Silver Surfer is fast enough to get Juggs Helmet and give him a brain whammy

Juggernaut" I am unstoppable"

Originally posted by LordFear
Juggernaut" I am unstoppable"

The Surfer omgwtfbbqpwns him.

Originally posted by Soljer
The Surfer omgwtfbbqpwns him.

Nah, Cain Marko ain't neva scurred.
Yeah heard me?????
UNFREAKINSTOPPABLE BABY!!!!!!!!!!
JUGGY CRUSH!!!

Unless Sufer drains Cains energy, he has no chance at winning. But then, Cain won't be doing anything either unles he hurls something at surfer that can hurt Surfer. The would both sooner die of old age, and they don't age at all.

If Thor's Godblast could bring down "classic" juggernaut's forcefield, Silver Surfer won't be able to do anything outside of sending juggy off the battlefield.

Well that's the best way of containing Juggy is by trapping him or sending him to another dimension. Which I don't think that this would be considered as a victory. I mean laying the smack down

Originally posted by Evangel94
If Thor's Godblast could bring down "classic" juggernaut's forcefield, Silver Surfer won't be able to do anything outside of sending juggy off the battlefield.

Juggernaut took the Godblast to the chest. If he were using his forcefield, it wouldn't have touched him.