Originally posted by Evangel94
Whatever feats your citing here doesn't mean Dr. Strange will be at that power level consistantly. [b]Averages are what matters. You can't take a high end showings and use it as the normal operating power level. [/B]
Actually, you can.
On the boards, characters are fighting to the best of their abilities.
Originally posted by Evangel94
Whatever feats your citing here doesn't mean Dr. Strange will be at that power level consistantly. [b]Averages are what matters. You can't take a high end showings and use it as the normal operating power level.By your odd reasoning, if Hulk isn't lifting a hundred and fifty billion tons, then he isn't operating at full abilities. That obviously isn't the case. [/B]
Meh, it's not the same.
One is a showing of hulk not using his full strength.
Strange not using his most powerful blasts is simply CIS, him not using his other powers is a case of SMvFL in which case Strange is Firelord, and his opponent is Spiderman.
Same way Firelord could have wiped the entire city off the map, but chose not to use those powers. Strange could stop time and mind rape damn near anyone, yet doesn't most of the time.
Originally posted by Soljer
As we all know, forum battles are not comic battles.And any time Strange doesn't stop time, call on the infinite energies of dimensions, or use Mind Gem level telepathy, he's not fighting to the best of his abilities.
By that "logic" .... anytime Reed doesn't whip out the UN or some such plot device that could destroy the universe it's CIS?
Originally posted by Scoobless
By that "logic" .... anytime Reed doesn't whip out the UN or some such plot device that could destroy the universe it's CIS?
A) Does he have access to the Ultimate Nullifier? I thought Galactus had it.
B) Technically, yes. Reed not using anything at his disposal is just like Spiderman pulling his punches, which is just like Strange not using all of his abilities.
EDIT: Though, each of these examples could be viewed as CII, character induced intelligence. It might be for the plot, or to make the story more dramatic (as it often is), or it may be the character using a bit of moderation, and deciding not to over kill the threat.
On the boards, characters are fighting at levels they have been consistently shown at time and time again.
I do agree that certain comic instances are too outrageous to be accepted, but too many people throw around fan-made terms such as "CIS" and "PIS" around too much and use it to justify anything they don't agree with.
Originally posted by Evangel94
On the boards, characters are fighting at levels they have been consistently shown at time and time again.I do agree that certain comic instances are too outrageous to be accepted, but too many people throw around fan-made terms such as "CIS" and "PIS" around too much and use it to justify anything they don't agree with.
"Bloodlust
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels."
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Originally posted by Accel
Just to clarify, there is a big difference between "best of one's abilities" and "highest showings."
True, but it still means that whenever Strange isn't using all the powers at his disposal, it's PIS, CIS, or SMvFL.
If he doesn't stop time? He isn't fighting to the best of his abilities. If he isn't using INSANELY strong telepathy, or absorbed power from eternity, he isn't fighting to the best of his abilities.
Originally posted by H. S. 6
"BloodlustIt is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels."
All that rule is saying is that we (the posters) are to consider certain high-end feats possible (like flash knocking a character out in a pico-second), but not always likely to happen.
That rule is there to remind us not to disregard plausible high-end feats.
What ever reed comes up with isn't going to stop Dr. Strange from Surprise attacking him from the astral plane, or turing him into a stretchy wart on sue's ass, or stopping reed in time forever. Just too many ways for strange to beat reed. Strange has an almost infinite amount of ways to use his magic. Reed can't come up with an infinite amount of contigency plans.
Dude, Strange has officially been depowered. Marvel has straight up said so.
Anything in the last 10 years is current Strange, anything before that is classic Strange.
Current Strange is somewhere around Doom's power, Classic Strange was a god even amongst gods.
As for science vs Magic, it's the same thing to Strange. He's said they are the same a million times. He says that what you call magic is just evolved science.
Hell, Strange has called upon power FROM science. He created a black hole by using Stephen Hawking's name.
Classic Strange doesn't need prep, Current needs it badly and still might lose.
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Classic Strange's high end feats are plentiful in his own comic, he's never shot, stabbed, beaten or even physically harmed in his own comic(without plot twists). In his own comics, his ONLY weakness is that he's human and can be taken out off guard. When you give him prep to make a shield, then he really has no weaknesses.
His feats contradict his low ends by so much that you really can't take those low ends seriously. If Superman takes a bullet and bleeds in some off-beat comic, do you really take that into account when he's pitted against another character? Of course not, because we know his power affords him the ability to be bulletproof. Same with Strange being shot or being punched by a random thug.