Magic vs. Science

Started by Symmetric Chaos3 pages

Magic vs Science?

In that case Ed Elric trumps all execpt Galactus, Thanos, Celestials and the other gods you but on there

Originally posted by cowboy
humm... in comic books MAGIC can defy all the scientific rules and isn't bound by the laws of physics.

so magic for the win


I submit to you that Doom's armor was at one point described as being powered by a miniature black hole and ask you this: Which abides by the laws of physics?

Magic is just an advanced form of science.

They are the same thing in many comics. The Newgods, for example, they say they are being worshipped everytime someone uses a microwave. They have no magic, just advanced science.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I submit to you that Doom's armor was at one point described as being powered by a miniature black hole and ask you this: Which abides by the laws of physics?

cosign

lol, comic book science is magic

ehhhh yeah i could settle on that.

just one question is the "presence " in DC scientific.
or spector , lucifer, michale (spell).

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Science and magic are equal. Beings like pre retcon beyonder and mr. Mxy seem to have blened the two into one.
Beyonder was natural.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
God is Super natural. A blending of Science and Magic.
God is natural. He isn't magic, or science. Why would God need science?
Originally posted by tru-marvell
I think top tier cosmics; Eternity, LT, Chaos, Order,ect are a perfect blending of both. Infact imo the ODINPOWER is a good example of magic and cosmic blended together
The abstracts are cosmics, unless you can say that Eternity uses machines... which he doesn't. Unless you can say that Eternity casts spells... which he doesn't.

Odinpower is magic, in fact, I don't even know if there is cosmic powers involved... well maybe, considering the Celestials...

Odin power is magic?

Galactus, In-Betweener and Eternity don't think so. In fact, they have all point blank said Asgardians are "self proclaimed gods".

They really don't consider them gods at all.

Originally posted by long pig
Odin power is magic?

Galactus, In-Betweener and Eternity don't think so. In fact, they have all point blank said Asgardians are "self proclaimed gods".

They really don't consider them gods at all.

That really doesn't say anything about magic though.

Also, I might be mistaken, but I thought it was magic? Maybe I am thinking of Thor's magic hammer... but I thought, it was magic. I might go look it up...

Originally posted by bigbran
That really doesn't say anything about magic though.

Also, I might be mistaken, but I thought it was magic? Maybe I am thinking of Thor's magic hammer... but I thought, it was magic. I might go look it up...


No, no. It's magic to US, but not to those who are as old as time and know more than we do. They know how it all started.

Being called a self proclaimed god by Galactus really means something.

Here is an interesting quote

The Elder Gods first appeared billions of years ago, when organic life was beginning to evolve on Earth. The first of them was a being known as the Demiurge, born from Earth's natural magical energies.

So I would say that magic is not just "advanced science" but is a seperate form of power, I don't think magical bolts/shields are composed of atomic/sub-atomics particles.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Galactus isn't a science user, he's f***ing Galactus, he's in a league of his own

The one statment I can completly agree with.

Originally posted by Evangel94
Magic is just an advanced form of science.

Not really 😬

Science is powered by facts

Magic is powered by faith

Originally posted by Grimm22
Not really 😬

Science is powered by facts

Magic is powered by faith

any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic

Re: Magic vs. Science

Originally posted by tru-marvell
Okay someone just made the statement that magic always trumps science. I wonder if this is true. Let's pit them and see the outcome.

Each battle has 3 senarios:

NO prep
1 hour prep but no devices
1 day prep w/known devices and battle strategy (meaning things the character has been depicted doing)

Ironman vs. Morgana le Fey

Sersi vs. Loki

Spiderman vs. Lilth (daughter of Dracula) http://www.marvel.com/universe/Lilith_(Daughter_Of_Dracula)

High Evolutionary vs. Mordo

Thanos (pure science only) vs. Clea

Galactus vs. Strange

Arishem vs. Chthon...in this Chthon is able to leave his dimension with
no problem

One above all (celestial) and Exitar vs. The Vishanti

I think this is a good representation...Which side comes out with the majority?

Celestials>Vishanti

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic

😄

Originally posted by Evangel94
Magic is just an advanced form of science.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Not really 😬

Science is powered by facts

Magic is powered by faith

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic

and the answer to all this is:

magic doesn't exist, whereas science explains the natural world

Highly advanced Technology may be indistinguishable from magic, but the fact that it is technology and has a natural explanation makes it science and not magic.

Basically, if magic existed it would be science 🙂 Since it describes something that doesn't occur naturally we call it magic 😉

Eternity hasn't cast spells? He cast a shit-load of spells, so did LT.

Originally posted by inamilist
and the answer to all this is:

magic doesn't exist, whereas science explains the natural world

Highly advanced [b]Technology may be indistinguishable from magic, but the fact that it is technology and has a natural explanation makes it science and not magic.

Basically, if magic existed it would be science 🙂 Since it describes something that doesn't occur naturally we call it magic 😉 [/B]

how very Reed Richards of you

but thats not really the point in comic books magic does exist and can break the established (scientific) laws of physics

Magic has it's own physics.

But it still obeys laws, just not the same ones as physical things.