Originally posted by cowboy
humm... in comic books MAGIC can defy all the scientific rules and isn't bound by the laws of physics.so magic for the win
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlBeyonder was natural.
Science and magic are equal. Beings like pre retcon beyonder and mr. Mxy seem to have blened the two into one.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlGod is natural. He isn't magic, or science. Why would God need science?
God is Super natural. A blending of Science and Magic.
Originally posted by tru-marvellThe abstracts are cosmics, unless you can say that Eternity uses machines... which he doesn't. Unless you can say that Eternity casts spells... which he doesn't.
I think top tier cosmics; Eternity, LT, Chaos, Order,ect are a perfect blending of both. Infact imo the ODINPOWER is a good example of magic and cosmic blended together
Odinpower is magic, in fact, I don't even know if there is cosmic powers involved... well maybe, considering the Celestials...
Originally posted by long pigThat really doesn't say anything about magic though.
Odin power is magic?Galactus, In-Betweener and Eternity don't think so. In fact, they have all point blank said Asgardians are "self proclaimed gods".
They really don't consider them gods at all.
Also, I might be mistaken, but I thought it was magic? Maybe I am thinking of Thor's magic hammer... but I thought, it was magic. I might go look it up...
Originally posted by bigbran
That really doesn't say anything about magic though.Also, I might be mistaken, but I thought it was magic? Maybe I am thinking of Thor's magic hammer... but I thought, it was magic. I might go look it up...
Being called a self proclaimed god by Galactus really means something.
Here is an interesting quote
The Elder Gods first appeared billions of years ago, when organic life was beginning to evolve on Earth. The first of them was a being known as the Demiurge, born from Earth's natural magical energies.
So I would say that magic is not just "advanced science" but is a seperate form of power, I don't think magical bolts/shields are composed of atomic/sub-atomics particles.
Re: Magic vs. Science
Originally posted by tru-marvell
Okay someone just made the statement that magic always trumps science. I wonder if this is true. Let's pit them and see the outcome.Each battle has 3 senarios:
NO prep
1 hour prep but no devices
1 day prep w/known devices and battle strategy (meaning things the character has been depicted doing)Ironman vs. Morgana le Fey
Sersi vs. Loki
Spiderman vs. Lilth (daughter of Dracula) http://www.marvel.com/universe/Lilith_(Daughter_Of_Dracula)
High Evolutionary vs. Mordo
Thanos (pure science only) vs. Clea
Galactus vs. Strange
Arishem vs. Chthon...in this Chthon is able to leave his dimension with
no problemOne above all (celestial) and Exitar vs. The Vishanti
I think this is a good representation...Which side comes out with the majority?
Celestials>Vishanti
Originally posted by Evangel94
Magic is just an advanced form of science.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Not really 😬Science is powered by facts
Magic is powered by faith
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
any sufficiently advanced science is indistinguishable from magic
and the answer to all this is:
magic doesn't exist, whereas science explains the natural world
Highly advanced Technology may be indistinguishable from magic, but the fact that it is technology and has a natural explanation makes it science and not magic.
Basically, if magic existed it would be science 🙂 Since it describes something that doesn't occur naturally we call it magic 😉
Originally posted by inamilist
and the answer to all this is:magic doesn't exist, whereas science explains the natural world
Highly advanced [b]Technology
may be indistinguishable from magic, but the fact that it is technology and has a natural explanation makes it science and not magic.Basically, if magic existed it would be science 🙂 Since it describes something that doesn't occur naturally we call it magic 😉 [/B]
how very Reed Richards of you
but thats not really the point in comic books magic does exist and can break the established (scientific) laws of physics