Best Pure Swordsman

Darth Tyrannus/Count Dooku is arguably the best pure swordsmen here. Unlike Anakin, whos ripping muscles and rage help him fuel his Djem So power, Dooku does not have that. Unlike Yoda's height and speed, which boosts his ability to use Ataru, Dooku does not have that either.

Tyrannus does not have anything unique about him that gives him an advantage when using Makashi. Dooku does not possess an extra amount of strength or speed. Yet he was able to master Makashi purely, and he was so skilled in its use that he was able to take on the likes of Anakin and Yoda and Grievous.

Thus, I feel the best pure swordsmen is Count Dooku.

Obi Wan is up there...

"There is an understated elegance in Obi-Wan Kenobi's lightsaber technique, one that is quite unlike the feel one might get from the other great swordsbeings of the Jedi Order. He lacks entirely the flash, the pure bold elan of an Anakin Skywalker; there is nowhere in him the penumbral ferocity of a Mace Windu or a Depa Billaba nor the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or a Dooku, and he is nothing resembling the whirlwind of destruction that Yoda can become.
He is simplicity itself.
That is his power.
Before Obi-Wan had left Coruscant, Mace Windu had told him of facing Grievous in single combat atop a mag-lev train during the general's daring raid to capture Palpatine. Mace had told him how the computers slaved to Grievous's brain had apparently analyzed even Mace's unconventionally lethal Vaapad and had been able to respond in kind after a single exchange.
«He must have been trained by Count Dooku,» Mace had said, «so you can expect Makashi as well; given the number of Jedi he has fought and slain, you must expect that he can attack in any style, or all of them. In fact, Obi-Wan, I believe that of all living Jedi, you have the best chance to defeat him.»
This pronouncement had startled Obi-Wan, and he had protested. After all, the only form in which he was truly even proficient was Soresu, which was the most common lightsaber form in the Jedi Order. Founded upon the basic deflection principles all Padawans were taught-to enable them to protect themselves from blaster bolts-Soresu was very simple, and so restrained and defense-oriented that it was very nearly downright passive.
«But surely, Master Windu,» Obi-Wan had said, «you, with the power of Vaapad-or Yoda's mastery of Ataro-"
Mace Windu had almost smiled. «I created Vaapad to answer my weakness: it channels my own darkness into a weapon of the light. Master Yoda's Ataro is also an answer to weakness: the limitations of reach and mobility imposed by his stature and his age. But for you? What weakness does Soresu answer?»
Blinking, Obi-Wan had been forced to admit he'd never actually thought of it that way.
«That is so like you, Master Kenobi,» the Korun Master had said, shaking his head. «I am called a great swordsman because I invented a lethal style; but who is greater, the creator of a killing form-or the master of the classic form?»
«I'm very flattered that you would consider me a master, but really-"
«Not a master. The master,» Mace had said. «Be who you are, and Grievous will never defeat you.» " (ROTS Novel)

Aye, I would put Kenobi perhaps two, but definately very high.

Originally posted by General Kenobl
Darth Tyrannus/Count Dooku is arguably the best pure swordsmen here. Unlike Anakin, whos ripping muscles and rage help him fuel his Djem So power, Dooku does not have that. Unlike Yoda's height and speed, which boosts his ability to use Ataru, Dooku does not have that either.

Tyrannus does not have anything unique about him that gives him an advantage when using Makashi. Dooku does not possess an extra amount of strength or speed. Yet he was able to master Makashi purely, and he was so skilled in its use that he was able to take on the likes of Anakin and Yoda and Grievous.

Thus, I feel the best pure swordsmen is Count Dooku.

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Martini's to Dooku is like Steroids to Berry Bonds. He would be nothing without his Martini.

I think Obi-Wan is the best pure Saber combatent, actually.

Originally posted by General Kenobl
Darth Tyrannus/Count Dooku is arguably the best pure swordsmen here. Unlike Anakin, whos ripping muscles and rage help him fuel his Djem So power, Dooku does not have that. Unlike Yoda's height and speed, which boosts his ability to use Ataru, Dooku does not have that either.

Tyrannus does not have anything unique about him that gives him an advantage when using Makashi. Dooku does not possess an extra amount of strength or speed. Yet he was able to master Makashi purely, and he was so skilled in its use that he was able to take on the likes of Anakin and Yoda and Grievous.

Thus, I feel the best pure swordsmen is Count Dooku.

That was so true and so touching that it almost brought a tear to my eye. 😊

Almost. 😐

What about Obi Wan?

he did master soresu to its highest i think but dookus mastery is to its highest degree

In terms of pure swordsman I still have to give it to Obi-Wan. DOoku's skill all relies on his strength with the force, he would be severely weaker if he wasn''t as strong in the force as he was. Obi-Wan managed to kick all sorts of ass, all this while being so weak with the force that he almost got sent to the Argicultural corps...

Originally posted by Blaxican
In terms of pure swordsman I still have to give it to Obi-Wan. DOoku's skill all relies on his strength with the force, he would be severely weaker if he wasn''t as strong in the force as he was. Obi-Wan managed to kick all sorts of ass, all this while being so weak with the force that he almost got sent to the Argicultural corps...

What you just said coupled with my quote from the ROTS novel does help to sum it up. He certainly managed to come a long way, huh? Still, though, I wouldn't call it case closed, just yet.

DOoku's skill all relies on his strength with the force, he would be severely weaker

Not necessarily. He was able to duke it out in a continous lightsaber duel with AOTC Obi-Wan, AOTC Anakin, and Yoda. He only used the Force in the beginning and end of the duel against the Grandmaster, but other than that it was purely lightsabers.

The thing is, he only "revitalized" himself in the Invisible Hand duel because he was facing a stronger opponent, Anakin, who's Djem So skill drew more kinetic energy against Dooku and drained the Sith Lord rapidly. Against an opponent like Kenobi, Dooku can eventually beat him in a lightsaber duel without because extremely exhausted.

Then why kenobi lasted for so long against anakin?

Originally posted by Kadesh
Then why kenobi lasted for so long against anakin?

1. "Blade-to-blade, they were identical. After thousands of hours in lightsaber sparring, they knew each other better than brothers, more intimately than lovers; they were complementary halves of a single warrior." (Revenge of the Sith, Ch 20)

Obi-Wan knew Anakin like the back of his hand, it's quite apparent that that was the main reason he was able to last so long. While the reverse is also true, the duel would be drawn out nonetheless. Especially if you consider the below.

2. Obi-Wan's plan was to constantly give ground to the point where it would be hard to strike down your opponents, or at least, so Anakin's wrath would be "slowed down". For example, platform jumping, lava skating, and the like. Had he stayed in one general area (i.e. like on the Invisible Hand), the duel definitely would've ended sooner.

3. His Soresu must've been good in situations like the above, where Anakin cannot give full force to his attacks.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Obi Wan is up there...

"There is an understated elegance in Obi-Wan Kenobi's lightsaber technique, one that is quite unlike the feel one might get from the other great swordsbeings of the Jedi Order. He lacks entirely the flash, the pure bold elan of an Anakin Skywalker; there is nowhere in him the penumbral ferocity of a Mace Windu or a Depa Billaba nor the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or a Dooku, and he is nothing resembling the whirlwind of destruction that Yoda can become.
He is simplicity itself.
That is his power.
Before Obi-Wan had left Coruscant, Mace Windu had told him of facing Grievous in single combat atop a mag-lev train during the general's daring raid to capture Palpatine. Mace had told him how the computers slaved to Grievous's brain had apparently analyzed even Mace's unconventionally lethal Vaapad and had been able to respond in kind after a single exchange.
«He must have been trained by Count Dooku,» Mace had said, «so you can expect Makashi as well; given the number of Jedi he has fought and slain, you must expect that he can attack in any style, or all of them. In fact, Obi-Wan, I believe that of all living Jedi, you have the best chance to defeat him.»
This pronouncement had startled Obi-Wan, and he had protested. After all, the only form in which he was truly even proficient was Soresu, which was the most common lightsaber form in the Jedi Order. Founded upon the basic deflection principles all Padawans were taught-to enable them to protect themselves from blaster bolts-Soresu was very simple, and so restrained and defense-oriented that it was very nearly downright passive.
«But surely, Master Windu,» Obi-Wan had said, «you, with the power of Vaapad-or Yoda's mastery of Ataro-"
Mace Windu had almost smiled. «I created Vaapad to answer my weakness: it channels my own darkness into a weapon of the light. Master Yoda's Ataro is also an answer to weakness: the limitations of reach and mobility imposed by his stature and his age. But for you? What weakness does Soresu answer?»
Blinking, Obi-Wan had been forced to admit he'd never actually thought of it that way.
«That is so like you, Master Kenobi,» the Korun Master had said, shaking his head. «I am called a great swordsman because I invented a lethal style; but who is greater, the creator of a killing form-or the master of the classic form?»
«I'm very flattered that you would consider me a master, but really-"
«Not a master. The master,» Mace had said. «Be who you are, and Grievous will never defeat you.» " (ROTS Novel)

Notice that the author didn't compare Obi-Wan's fighting style to Count Dooku's. Dooku's fighting style is purely melee. Soresou is mroe about deflecting blaster bolts.

Originally posted by General Kenobl
Darth Tyrannus/Count Dooku is arguably the best pure swordsmen here. Unlike Anakin, whos ripping muscles and rage help him fuel his Djem So power, Dooku does not have that. Unlike Yoda's height and speed, which boosts his ability to use Ataru, Dooku does not have that either.

Tyrannus does not have anything unique about him that gives him an advantage when using Makashi. Dooku does not possess an extra amount of strength or speed. Yet he was able to master Makashi purely, and he was so skilled in its use that he was able to take on the likes of Anakin and Yoda and Grievous.

Thus, I feel the best pure swordsmen is Count Dooku.