Best Jedi Ever Version 2

Originally posted by Antaeus
Yoda has never seen anything - when we are talking dark side - has he?

He use the same or almost the same sentences in OT and PT.

"Difficult to see" bla bla......

Exactly...

Swordmanship - Mace Windu.
Force Strength - Mace Windu.
General Combat Prowess - Mace Windu (Yoda is not too far behind).
Wisdom - Yoda (Qui-Gon Jinn and Mace Windu aren't too far behind).
Piloting - Anakin Skywalker (Saesee Tinn is not too far behind).
General - Mace Windu.
Diplomat - Yoda.
Coolest - Mace Windu.

Make a choice, will ya.

Going by the parameters set by the thread creator in version 1, I'd say Yoda.

Originally posted by HK69
Swordmanship - Mace Windu.
Force Strength - Mace Windu.
General Combat Prowess - Mace Windu (Yoda is not too far behind).
Wisdom - Yoda (Qui-Gon Jinn and Mace Windu aren't too far behind).
Piloting - Anakin Skywalker (Saesee Tinn is not too far behind).
General - Mace Windu.
Diplomat - Yoda.
Greatest - Yoda.
Coolest - Mace Windu.

Edited.

Why?

Mainly his accomplishments.

Originally posted by queeq
Exactly...

You missed my point.
You think Yoda was a blind bat in PT.
But he used exactly the same "glasses" in OT (blind too).
I do not understand why you think he was wise and mysterious in OT and a blind bat in PT?

He could still see a lot - but never anything DARK.
He was still wise - but not wise enough.
He was of course more mysterious in OT.

I liked his fights, but also disliked them. Hate that a fight is equal with no winner or signs of a winner. One is better and I want to know who.

My point was, in the OT it would appear as if he knew what he was talking about. We didn't know much about him, this mysterious Jedi Master living in a swamp near a strange Darksided tree. I APPEARED he knew what he was talking about. The PT showed that he didn't, that he always talked vaguely. And that he never really did something in the PT that made him stand out.
So it's not as if the OT showed him in a different light, but it left for a lot more room to imagine this great Master. The PT took that room away and filled it up with more of the same, thus ruining the characater.

PT: At least we know he can fight - OT: we assumed he could fight.
PT and OT: Wise

Power: He was at least equal to Sidious and Dooku (probably better than Dooku). Powerful he was (oops a Yoda sentence...).

He fought twice and did not win.

He utters the same vague lines to padawans and masters.

Why was he powerful again? Due to lines like: "Around the survivors a perimeter make"?

Originally posted by queeq
He fought twice and did not win.

He utters the same vague lines to padawans and masters.

Why was he powerful again? Due to lines like: "Around the survivors a perimeter make"?

Yoda is powerful because he had an equal fight to Sidious, which a lot of people think is the most powerful of them all.

Wasn't DE Sidious considered the most powerful of them all? I don't think ROTS Sidious is.

Sidious only fought Yoda and Mace. Apparantly, MAce PWN'ed Sidious. I know that might be debatable, that Sidious allowed himself to be defeated, but it is not so clear from the movie.
But Mace seemed to be able to handle Sidious fairly well, Yoda did not.

And yet Yoda is supposedly better.

Oh, I'm so confused.

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