The Vs. Challenge thread!!!

Started by pantysniffer4 pages

The Vs. Challenge thread!!!

There is unfinished business on this forum. This is the thread to issue an official challenge and set out your criteria.

One argument at a time.

When two protagonists debate nobody may enter this thread till the posters have made 10 posts each. Then agreed Judges mutually agreed by the two posters concerned may either suggest a continued argument or judge the debate over and proclaim a winner. Individual challengers may on the issue of a challenge set the additional criteria they wish. This can be modified if the individual challenged accepts the proclamation.

Hello peeps. This is the event you've all been waiting for. As many posters will know, there has been an ongoing essay war between me and the upstart otherwise known as Mr Master. I would present an argument backed by on panel proof and then he would respond NOT with evidence showing why my argument cant possibly be the case or evidence clear out stating its not the case, but instead with opinion about why its not the case, pages and pages of OUT OF CONTEXT scans of Phoenix avatars being defeated and insults pertaining to me being a fanboy. At which point he'd claim victory on the topic despite posting little to nothing topic related. I naively at first used to respond to this and as such the argument went on and on in circles, with my points never being addressed and said instances of course as intended by Mr Master buried under tons of insults and scans of Phoenix being p8wn3d 😬

Thats when i decided, lets break this cycle. Im not going to give him the opportunity to hide his losses anymore. So i set this challenge nearly a week ago. A challenge which up until this point has been avoided and even saw a previously unheard of Mr M absence.

Here it is.

We will discuss ONE issue at a time. Posters will briefly state what theyre trying to prove about the issue and then the debate will begin in earnest. Each poster will present their whole arguments without interruption from each other or any other posters one after the other.

The judges will assess each argument and give their stance at that point in time with detailed explanations and any queries about either participants arguments.

The participants will then answer said queries through further posts whilst also highlighting flaws in their opponents arguments. During this process the judges and ONLY the judges can post freely with any additional queries or doubts.

When it becomes clear to the judges that the argument is going in circles and one side cannot sufficiently prove a particular point the other side has presented then they will cast their votes on the issue.

When that happens the losing side must agree never to bring up said issues again unless new evidence has come to light.

Posts and scans must be directly related to the topic. i.e if we're debating the M'kraan crystal, no scans of Phoenix being blown apart by Xorn 😖hifty:

Posts must be entirely new. NO REPOSTS from previous threads.

If a point is presented, argue why it cannot be the case and if you can show on panel evidence stating it is not the case.Mere opinion to the contrary will not do. Neither will an attack on an opponents credibility qualify as a response.

The judges will be agreed between MrMaster and myself, but they must be members who have been here over a year

They cant be members who have been shown to have been insulting to either participant in recent Phoenix threads.

Anyone out there who meets said criteria? Send your judge applications to both me and Mr M. 🙂

I'm seeing a problem with this.

Your ruleing in this was going to decide what way an issue is interpreted, and thus there can be no further argument on the issue.

But what if someone has an argument you guys missed? That could change the whole issue? They aren't allowed to influence it in any way...

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm seeing a problem with this.

Your ruleing in this was going to decide what way an issue is interpreted, and thus there can be no further argument on the issue.

But what if someone has an argument you guys missed? That could change the whole issue? They aren't allowed to influence it in any way...

Noone else may interfere it is between the two of them, they can seek advice outside the thread. Once the debate starts though that's it closed.

i'm talking about the aftermath of the debate.

Originally posted by King Kandy
i'm talking about the aftermath of the debate.

It will have been judged it's about how they perform in that debate.

🙂

🤘

But the purpose of this is to close debating on the issue, correct?

What if a killer argument surfaces after the debate?

Originally posted by King Kandy
But the purpose of this is to close debating on the issue, correct?

What if a killer argument surfaces after the debate?

It won't, they can issue another challenge if they want. I doubt though after one loses they will wish to. 🙂

Originally posted by pantysniffer
Noone else may interfere it is between the two of them, they can seek advice outside the thread. Once the debate starts though that's it closed.

Precisely.

KK. This thread is more of a closure between mine and MrM's ongoing essay war, something he falsely claims to have won consistently despite me consistently bringing points up on each of the issues which Mr Master couldnt answer. Points which got covered up by a barrage of off topic out of context scans of Phoenix getting stomped.

Theres nothing stopping the debate going on outside of the thread. Any queries people have about anything brought up here can be handled outside the thread. What this does is stop Mr Master specifically from talking trash anymore.

GS .... no-one cares.

😬

Actualy, I can name at least five people who care.

Originally posted by Scoobless
GS .... no-one cares.

😬

Handled by KK. There are people who care. My inbox is testament to that. As are the various threads that have been raging over the last year. Youre one voice and while there might be others who share your view. Dont presume to speak for the forum. 😬

Originally posted by King Kandy
Actualy, I can name at least five people who care.

Really? ... wow .... it all just seemed so pointless to me.

Who?

Well...

Pantysniffer
GS
Mr. M
Me
Leonidas? (Maybe)
Manastroman

Originally posted by Scoobless
GS .... no-one cares.

😬

You cared enough to post. 🙂

Didn't you?

🙂

Originally posted by pantysniffer
You cared enough to post. 🙂

Didn't you?

🙂

I'll post about anything.

How long 'til you get banned this time?

🙂

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'll post about anything.

So I have observed

How long 'til you get banned this time?

🙂

Are the stars just pin holes in the curtain of night?

Who can tell.

Shouldn't you be out. Tonight is Hogfathers eve or something isn't it?

🙂

Originally posted by Scoobless
GS .... no-one cares.

😬

Cosign.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Cosign.

Dont let PS's comments in another thread lead you to come up in here and be insulting to me Thunderstrike. 🙂