Batdude's Official Tourney Confirmation Thread

Originally posted by Blair Wind
its all magic 😱

It is different, because while we have a foundation to base on HOW we got those powers (magic being a first round draft, and Black Alice being a magical character) you have no basis on the BRICK/physical draft 😬

No chance, Marvel and Black Adam were never going to be first round characters.

How they got their power is irrelevant, they're bricks.

Just like Alan Scott and Thor were third round only drafts even though their powers have a magical basis.

...it's just semantics though. Thor's "base stats" make him a brick, but he's obviously a round 3 pick because of what he'll be used for in the fight. It's the opposite idea with someone like a GL, whose base stats aren't any different than SP. SP won't see any time in his regular body except for the beginning of our prep period, so it's what he being used for that should count.

{edit} Scoob said pretty much the same thing.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
But Black Alice in her base state fits into a round 1 pick, Space Phantom in his base state does not fit into a round 2 pick.

LL said it well 🙂

Originally posted by Scoobless
Tourney battles should always start with an initial fight plan PMd to the host for posting.... that way you get to see both teams ideas of the battle before they are influenced by the other teams tactics.

I concur with your evaluation, Scoobs.

I don't think it's fair for one team to post a strategy, and then have the other team able to prepare accordinbly having already saw the prep post.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Is it any different if you use BA to take a magical brick (Cpt. Marvel, for example...a "brick" in every sense of the word, but magically powered)?? Or a magical GL (Alan pops to mind)? Those obviously fit into different categories than Round 1.

SP's inherent power prevents him from becoming magical characters. Otherwise, I don't really see the problem.

oh bs 🙄

BA own power is Magical , the people she steals from powers are magic based, and almost all their attacks are some form of Magic.

Also just because Alan scott has powers akinn to a GL doesn't mena he can't fall under the Magic category since his powers are magical in nature.

While your character can get the powers of characters who are not bricks. Thus not making him a round 2 pick.

BA gets power from people who are magical

Huge difference

again

your subsitution gets a huge 👇 from me

Originally posted by Devil Lance
BA own power is Magical , the people she steals from powers are magic based, and almost all their attacks are some form of Magic.

While your character can get the powers of characters who are not bricks. Thus not making him a round 2 pick.

The argument is being made that SP could take powers from someone who starts in a different category than him. Black Alice taking Juggernaut powers would be exactly the same thing, draft 1 wasn't magic based characters it was energy/magic using characters who wouldn't fit into other categories.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Also just because Alan scott has powers akinn to a GL doesn't mena he can't fall under the Magic category since his powers are magical in nature.

Alan Scott was banned from round one... we asked about him as he would have been our first choice.

Originally posted by Scoobless
The argument is being made that SP could take powers from someone who starts in a different category than him. Black Alice taking Juggernaut powers would be exactly the same thing, draft 1 wasn't magic based characters it was energy/magic characters who wouldn't fit into other categories.

Alan Scott was banned from round one... we asked about him as he would have been our first choice.

but that doesn't make him a brick

I'm fine with SP if he can only get the abilities of bricks if he gets anyone else he's a round 3 pick.

as a round 2 pick H*ll no

Just explain to me how Space Phantom in his base state fits into the category you're trying to put him in, cause i really don't see it...

The second theme of the draft: The second character must fall into the category of strong tank/brick type characters. Ex: Superman, Gladiator, Majestic, Supreme, Apollo, Hyperion, etc.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
oh bs 🙄

BA own power is Magical , the people she steals from powers are magic based, and almost all their attacks are some form of Magic.

Also just because Alan scott has powers akinn to a GL doesn't mena he can't fall under the Magic category since his powers are magical in nature.

While your character can get the powers of characters who are not bricks. Thus not making him a round 2 pick.

BA gets power from people who are magical

Huge difference

again

your subsitution gets a huge 👇 from me

I realize you're backing up your opinion, but it's not straight-up BS. Byt this estimation, you're saying it's ok to use Alan (a round 3 pick) for round 1 purposes (with BA). All we're asking is the same leverage.

We're arguing for this round based on what he'll be used for, because SP's base stats don't fit him completely into any round.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
oh bs 🙄

BA own power is Magical , the people she steals from powers are magic based, and almost all their attacks are some form of Magic.

Also just because Alan scott has powers akinn to a GL doesn't mena he can't fall under the Magic category since his powers are magical in nature.

While your character can get the powers of characters who are not bricks. Thus not making him a round 2 pick.

BA gets power from people who are magical

Huge difference

again

your subsitution gets a huge 👇 from me

I specifically wanted X-Man as a round 1 character, but I decided at this point in the game I'd give you guys a break. 😉

I'd say I've been pretty lenient as far as characters go. I've allowed Mangog, EX AM, BA, and Keeper.... all against my better judgement.

I say cut Digi and Scoobs a break. 🙂

Originally posted by Devil Lance
but that doesn't make him a brick

I'm fine with SP if he can only get the abilities of bricks if he gets anyone else he's a round 3 pick.

as a round 2 pick H*ll no

Then why aren't you saying the same thing about Black Alice?

With characters like Black Adam, Alan Scott, etc that she can steal from she could clearly be taking power from outside her draft round.

Space Phantom himself only has physical abilities until he switches bodies.

It's exactly the same thing.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I realize you're backing up your opinion, but it's not straight-up BS. Byt this estimation, you're saying it's ok to use Alan (a round 3 pick) for round 1 purposes (with BA). All we're asking is the same leverage.

We're arguing for this round based on what he'll be used for, because SP's base stats don't fit him completely into any round.

I see Alan as a magic character

GL's powers are science based Alans Starheart powers is magic

I beleive he could fall under round 1 I see no real difference to him compared to someone like Quasar.

Alan has not showed as much versatality as a GL

He can't stop time to muy knowledge he hasn't been shown to be able to teleport I haven't seen him amp up his strength. He hasn't been shown to my knowledge to be able to manipulate energy and matter to the extent the top GL.

Is Alan alittle more powerful then GL's like Guy or John but hes no where near as versatile as them. 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
I specifically wanted X-Man as a round 1 character, but I decided at this point in the game I'd give you guys a break. 😉

Originally posted by Scoobless
Then why aren't you saying the same thing about Black Alice?

With characters like Black Adam, Alan Scott, etc that she can steal from she could clearly be taking power from outside her draft round.

Space Phantom himself only has physical abilities until he switches bodies.

It's exactly the same thing.

Originally posted by batdude123
I specifically wanted X-Man as a round 1 character, but I decided at this point in the game I'd give you guys a break. 😉

I'd say I've been pretty lenient as far as characters go. I've allowed Mangog, EX AM, BA, and Keeper.... all against my better judgement.

I say cut Digi and Scoobs a break. 🙂

Originally posted by darthgoober
I agree. It shouldn't matter WHAT is copied by the character in question, just HOW it's copied. BA steals powers by magic and is thus a first round pick, even though characters like Black Adam and Sentinel fall into other categories. So by the same token, since SP copies things physically he should fall into category 2. I might see changing him to a category 1 as a matter manipulator, but no way a category 3 with the precedent that's been set.

mo it should matter whats copied

I'm all for banning Black Alice from using people like WW and, Ba's power.

she still has many more options

and Sentinel is a round one character he is no where near as versatile as a GL.

again SP gets a big 👇 from me

Originally posted by DigiMark007
We're arguing for this round based on what he'll be used for, because SP's base stats don't fit him completely into any round.

Like who would you be copying? Name a few bricks (since that is what you would be using him for as you said) that we know of that can be used in this tourny that you could possibly use. You guys know of some from us, do us the same favor 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
I'd say I've been pretty lenient as far as characters go. I've allowed Mangog, EX AM, BA, and Keeper.... all against my better judgement.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
mo it should matter whats copied

I'm all for banning Black Alice from using people like WW and, Ba's power.

she still has many more options

and Sentinel is a round one character he is no where near as versatile as a GL.

again SP gets a big 👇 from me

Whatever. Let him in. I just want to get this tourny started.

Batdude any idea as to when this thread will end and you will have the full list of matches set? 🙂