Colossus vs Carnage

Carnage is not gonna throw around Colossus who is trained in Judo. Most likely if Cargage gets in close he's gonna be the one going for a ride. Besides throwing Colossus around? The guys fell over 1 mile in sky and survived a explosion creating a crater 1/2 mile in diameter simultaneously. I don't see Carnage generating that kind of power.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Carnage is not gonna throw around Colossus who is trained in Judo. Most likely if Cargage gets in close he's gonna be the one going for a ride. Besides throwing Colossus around? The guys fell over 1 mile in sky and survived a explosion creating a crater 1/2 mile in diameter simultaneously. I don't see Carnage generating that kind of power.

lol, nor do i 😛

though, I don't see how Judo training is going to protect him from the symbiote's tendrils or whatever. I'd definatly give Colossus the advantage in fighting ability, however Carnage may be just unconventional enough to exploit that.

Probably ture, I think colossus takes a majority for sure...Exactly how strong is Carnage I know he is strong enough to lift colossus...I have herd he is spider-man level all the way up to 75 Ton Range...Im not really clear on that...75 ton range makes this a much better fight

Carnage is a 50 tonner I heard. About 1/2 the strength of Colossus.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Carnage is a 50 tonner I heard. About 1/2 the strength of Colossus.

He's 35 or so, and Colossus isn't a class 100.
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Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
He's 35 or so, and Colossus isn't a class 100.

Im not sure about carnage but Colossus is about 75-80 ton, ultimate colossus is Class 100 though

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
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Hate to break it to you, but nothing suggests that he is.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
He's 35 or so, and Colossus isn't a class 100.
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Originally posted by snoopdogg
Listen man. If the handbook says he is Class 100 he is. Your opinion means nothing to Marvel, or me for that matter.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Listen man. If the handbook says he is Class 100 he is. Your opinion means nothing to Marvel, or me for that matter.

Too bad I'm telling the truth. 😉

Handbooks have been, and always will be, innacurate.

So you can piss and moan about the handbooks all day, it just sounds like an excuse not to acknowledge what's on the page, because Colossus is not in the league of true Class 100's, such as Thor, Abomination, Namor, Hulk, etc.

Marvel's been getting their shit wrong for years, so handbooks are crap.

and your opinion on that matters little to me. 😉 Truth wins out at the end of the day.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Too bad I'm telling the truth. 😉

Handbooks have been, and always will be, innacurate.

So you can piss and moan about the handbooks all day, it just sounds like an excuse not to acknowledge what's on the page, because Colossus is not in the league of true Class 100's, such as Thor, Abomination, Namor, Hulk, etc.

Marvel's been getting their shit wrong for years, so handbooks are crap.

and your opinion on that matters little to me. 😉 Truth wins out at the end of the day.

Sure the handbooks may not be accurate but when they are wrong they usually lower the limit of the character. Officially Colossus is CL 100, but your eyes he isn't. I can deal with that.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Too bad I'm telling the truth. 😉

Handbooks have been, and always will be, innacurate.

So you can piss and moan about the handbooks all day, it just sounds like an excuse not to acknowledge what's on the page, because Colossus is not in the league of true Class 100's, such as Thor, Abomination, Namor, Hulk, etc.

Marvel's been getting their shit wrong for years, so handbooks are crap.

and your opinion on that matters little to me. 😉 Truth wins out at the end of the day.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Carnage is Class 50 according to the handbooks.

Yet he's never shown such strength. He's shown around 35

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus is CL 100.

Nope

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Being CL100 does not put you in the same league as Thor, Hulk Abom. etc. Colossus is NOT stronger than those guys. But he IS Class 100.

Actually, strengthwise it does. That's why he's not considered a Class 100, because he's not even close to guys like Nefaria or Hulk

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Sure the handbooks may not be accurate but when they are wrong they usually lower the limit of the character. Officially Colossus is CL 100, but your eyes he isn't. I can deal with that.

Not just my eyes. The eyes of a LOT of people he's not class 100.

Class 100 in itself shows a level of strength that is above and beyond everyone else. It comes with bunches and bunches of feats that show the character lifting crazy stuff, such as Thor's Midgard Serpent feat, Hulk having a clash with Ironclad that shook dimensions, and Count Nefaria dropping a skyscraper on the Avengers.

So, Class 100 does, in fact, say whether or not someone is in that league. Colossus just doesn't hit that level yet.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Yet he's never shown such strength. He's shown around 35

Nope

Actually, strengthwise it does. That's why he's not considered a Class 100, because he's not even close to guys like Nefaria or Hulk

Not just my eyes. The eyes of a LOT of people he's not class 100.

Class 100 in itself shows a level of strength that is above and beyond everyone else. It comes with bunches and bunches of feats that show the character lifting crazy stuff, such as Thor's Midgard Serpent feat, Hulk having a clash with Ironclad that shook dimensions, and Count Nefaria dropping a skyscraper on the Avengers.

So, Class 100 does, in fact, say whether or not someone is in that league. Colossus just doesn't hit that level yet.

comes down to stamina Carnage can't hurt Collosus and Collosus can't grab Carnage

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Too bad I'm telling the truth. 😉

Handbooks have been, and always will be, innacurate.

So you can piss and moan about the handbooks all day, it just sounds like an excuse not to acknowledge what's on the page, because Colossus is not in the league of true Class 100's, such as Thor, Abomination, Namor, Hulk, etc.

Marvel's been getting their shit wrong for years, so handbooks are crap.

and your opinion on that matters little to me. 😉 Truth wins out at the end of the day.

All of those examples are beyond Class 100, once again revealing the stupidity of handbooks and such, for leaving Class 100 as the top and leading people to believe that that meant people like Thor, Abom, Namor and Hulk were only Cl. 100.

Colossus is Cl. 100. Those examples are all at least well beyond that, and probably incalcuable.

Colossus has demonstrated Class 100 strength many times. Marvel also has stated that he's Class 100. What more do you need? For him to flat out state: I am bench pressing exactly 100 tons at this very instant?

Originally posted by Soljer
Carnage can't pierce Colossus' skin.

Colossus also doesn't need to breathe.

Therefore, Carnage has no real way to attack Colossus.

Last but DEFINITELY not least, I believe this has been done before.

Colossus, 10/10.

Originally posted by Soljer
Riptides stars punctured Colossus BEFORE his upgrade. Afterwards, they simply 'tinged' off, if I do recall correctly.

He also has survived plenty of things that NORMAL steel would not. Being turned white hot without melting, for example.

Organic Steel is RIDICULOUSLY stronger than normal steel.

Originally posted by Soljer
To sum this up, Colossus is totally invulnerable to Carnage's attack, and Carnage is a bit too fast for Colossus to keep up.

However, this goes the way of the Juggernaut vs. Spiderman, or threads of that sort.

Eventually, the invulnerable opponent will get his hands on the faster one. 😬. This definitely goes to colossus for a majority.

Damn. You keep getting to these before I do. Rock on.