Police investigate dog breed after death

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I have a Pit-bull terrier, and he runs away from anyone isn't my family and hides underneath my brother's bed....

Originally posted by Grimm22
Animals cannot be blamed for the wrongdoings of their owners

Nor can they be blamed for being what they are. That does not make them any less potentially dangerous.

My wife has been bitten or bite at by more toy and small dogs than any other breed. She has less fear of Pittbulls and Rots than smaller dogs, the numbers everyone keeps reporting are inflated and skewed. Can larger dogs do more damage and kill a large human, yes but in numbers they are no more aggressive most other breeds that were breed to hunt and kill.

Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
pit bulls are aggressive, but not naturally THIS violent. NO ANIMAL that you can legally own in your home is THAT violent on its own. this had to be an abusive act of the owners

That sums it up for me. Any dog can get like this.

The other thing that many people keep overlooking is that the pit fighting dogs of this generation are not in the general populace, when they are found the dog is destroyed by law so the traits are not being passed on as everyone assumes. The vast majority of "pit fighting" breeds that everyone is so worried about have for many generations are house hold pets. The other common problem for aggression is dogs is the owner not spaying or neutering their house hold pets, this in any dog reduces aggression and behavior issues and health risks.

This bull. Pitbulls ain't violent unless you make it that way. My neighbor has a pet pitbull and it doesn't even bully Chiwawas.

Edit: Also, am I also aggressive and gonna kill people? My family tree extends to katana-wielding people that cuts off people's head.

anecdotal evidence>>>WIN!!
irrelevant connection>>>WIN!!

Sure, pit bulls have a great potential for damage, and have a potential to be agressive more than other dogs, but ultimately it's the owners fault for not taking the leadership role.

A post-mortem examination on a dog that killed a five-year-old girl will determine whether the animal was subject to the Dangerous Dogs Act.

Was that like a joke? What kind of intelligent deduction could you possibly lack to assume that is something that needs to be thought about?

"Was the dog dangerous?"

"I don't know, all it did was kill a kid."

Originally posted by ThePittman
The other thing that many people keep overlooking is that the pit fighting dogs of this generation are not in the general populace, when they are found the dog is destroyed by law so the traits are not being passed on as everyone assumes. The vast majority of "pit fighting" breeds that everyone is so worried about have for many generations are house hold pets. The other common problem for aggression is dogs is the owner not spaying or neutering their house hold pets, this in any dog reduces aggression and behavior issues and health risks.

*raises hand* So the assumption is that behavior traits are passed down through the generations?

Is that actually fact?

Re: Police investigate dog breed after death

Originally posted by smoker4
My hometown is all over the english media at the moment, why anyone would want one of these dogs as a pet is beyond me!

[b]A post-mortem examination on a dog that killed a five-year-old girl will determine whether the animal was subject to the Dangerous Dogs Act.

Ellie Lawrenson, from St Helens, was mauled to death early on Monday morning by an adult pitbull terrier-type dog despite desperate attempts by her grandmother to save her.

The dog's owner - Ellie's uncle - had been officially warned about his pet's behaviour in June last year.

Owners of pure-bred pitbull terriers are legally to blame for attacks made by them under the provisions of the 1991 Dangerous Dogs Act.

A spokeswoman for St Helens Council said the warning letter had been sent to the uncle, named locally as Kiel Simpson, after a neighbour said the animal had attacked his dog in May.

Several neighbours are reported to have said the animal had violent tendencies and at least one other person has claimed he and his dog were attacked.

Jackie Simpson, 46, had been babysitting her granddaughter while the mother, named locally as Lyndsay, was out celebrating New Year.

Ms Simpson also suffered serious injuries in the deadly assault. The dog was shot at the scene by police marksmen.

It is unknown at this stage whether Ellie was asleep when the dog pounced or what prompted the vicious attack, but officers will be investigating whether fireworks may have scared the animal.

Source [/B]


pit bulls are too dangerous. and fugly.

Originally posted by chithappens
*raises hand* So the assumption is that behavior traits are passed down through the generations?

Is that actually fact?

Yes many behavior traits are passed down from generation to generation, this is well proven but this is also not the only factor.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
pit bulls are too dangerous. and fugly.
I hope your joking 😉

nope, they are the ugliest animal i have ever seen.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Yes many behavior traits are passed down from generation to generation, this is well proven but this is also not the only factor.

Not calling you a liar, I would just like a link

Originally posted by ThePittman
The other thing that many people keep overlooking is that the pit fighting dogs of this generation are not in the general populace, when they are found the dog is destroyed by law so the traits are not being passed on as everyone assumes. The vast majority of "pit fighting" breeds that everyone is so worried about have for many generations are house hold pets. The other common problem for aggression is dogs is the owner not spaying or neutering their house hold pets, this in any dog reduces aggression and behavior issues and health risks.

Aggression (more so than other breeds) is still in them, that trait was specifically magnified in them through breeding, how can you ignore that? There's a reason why you don't hear many "dog attack" stories from others breeds as you do with Pitbulls and the like. How many Golden Retriever, Labrador, Dalmatian, Husky, Giant Schnauzer or Great Dane maulings do you hear about?

Originally posted by Robtard
Aggression (more so than other breeds) is still in them, that trait was specifically magnified in them through breeding, how can you ignore that? There's a reason why you don't hear many "dog attack" stories from others breeds as you do with Pitbulls and the like. How many Golden Retriever, Labrador, Dalmatian, Husky, Giant Schnauzer or Great Dane maulings do you hear about?

I better call a doctor, I might get a katana and cut off someone's head, its in my blood.

Originally posted by Robtard
Aggression (more so than other breeds) is still in them, that trait was specifically magnified in them through breeding, how can you ignore that? There's a reason why you don't hear many "dog attack" stories from others breeds as you do with Pitbulls and the like. How many Golden Retriever, Labrador, Dalmatian, Husky, Giant Schnauzer or Great Dane maulings do you hear about?
I have already posted why you hear more stories about Pitbulls and Rots than other breeds and the inflated stats that are supporting the bans.

Any dog that was trained to kill and hunt prey is just as naturally aggressive as the Pitbull; other breeds were also breed to kill and hunt and other to attach humans. Many German Shepherds are trained as guard and attack dogs breed specify to attack humans and in far greater numbers that of Pitbulls being trained for dog fights but why not ban them as well?

Originally posted by ThePittman
I have already posted why you hear more stories about Pitbulls and Rots than other breeds and the inflated stats that are supporting the bans.

Any dog that was trained to kill and hunt prey is just as naturally aggressive as the Pitbull; other breeds were also breed to kill and hunt and other to attach humans. Many German Shepherds are trained as guard and attack dogs breed specify to attack humans and in far greater numbers that of Pitbulls being trained for dog fights but why not ban them as well?

German shepherds are one of the most trainable breeds out there, as well as dobermans. That's why they make good attack dogs, and/or K9 dogs. On the flip side, they can be trained to be the biggest sissy family dog too. Comparing them to pit bulls is not a fair comparison. Same thing with Rotts, they are like a lump of clay, waiting to be molded into whatever you want them to be.

Pitts and Chows, I dunno what it is about them. Something in their bloodline, I guess. They are very unpredictable.

Pitbulls are very trainable just as any breed if you know what you are doing; my wife has less trust of a Chow or a Border Collie than any other breed. Bull Terriers and Akitas are probably the hardest breed of dogs to train.

Buy the logic that most people are using all of these breeds should be band as well because all of them were also used and breed as fighting dogs.

Bull terrier
Tosa Inu
Akita Inu
Sharpei
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
American Staffordshire Terrier
American Pit Bull Terrier
Bulldogs
Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier