Darth Vader runs the Gauntlet!

Started by Lightsnake9 pages

1. Wow. If someone's good at healing, does that make them a good offensive user?
2. IT's optionable, but if you can use the whole Hutt thing...
3. Right, like you even have to meet Motta.....Oh, don't recall mind tricking him. In fact, you can just threaten him with Canderous

1. It speaks for strength in the force, whether it's applied offesnively or defensively is irrelavent.

2. If it's optional, it ain't canon...

3. It might not be Motta.

Bastila is pretty powerful with Battle Meditation. That being said, one so uber in it could easily defeat Exar Kun is saber combat, Sidious in Force lightning and Vader in one on one combat.

Riiiight.......

She'd lose to him, nuff said.

The sarcasm is very unnecessary, Tangible Dog.

1. Which means nothing to combat. Isn't power ambiguous?
2. Just like the hutt bit.
3. Mmmhmm

Unnecessary, yet better than childish (and obvious) name rearranging, Bexysack.

Stupid ain't it?

1. That just doesn't make sense Lightsnake, I expect better from you.
2. No.
3. You say that a lot...

And Tango, that makes sense.. 🙄

Guys, lets not bash. Anyway, Bastilla is nothing special. She had a gift for Battle Meditation, that one particular ability (Like Mace Windu's Shatterpoint, only, it doesn't help in single combat at all). Otherwise, she is just above average padawan level.

She also needed her ass saved by the common thugs that beat her up.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Guys, lets not bash. Anyway, Bastilla is nothing special. She had a gift for Battle Meditation, that one particular ability (Like Mace Windu's Shatterpoint, only, it doesn't help in single combat at all). Otherwise, she is just above average padawan level.

She also needed her ass saved by the common thugs that beat her up.

Well TrouserSnake started it, and he was much worse.

1. Proof that all she has is one gift? Your argument is very fallacious; you're saying that because she only ever performed one feat that was impressive, said feat is the only impressive thing she can do. This is very faulty, especially when we actually have proof that she can do other impressive stuff, such as force persuading a Hutt, instantly stunning two powerful jedi, etc...

2. She had just crashlanded on Taris, and she not only lost her lightsaber, but also was likely very weakened (given both Revan and Carth were knocked out from there's). And by the time she would have likely regained her strength, they had put her in a cage that suppresses her force powers.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No! he will get one hour rest after each fight to heal his wounds.

This is not constant combat.

Now decide?


One hour will not be enough rest for him to be able to beat Dooku.

Wasn't it stated maybe a million times that she has a gift for it? It never said anything about her being great, or showed us anything that impressive.

Planet, you yourself has said many times that ones power in the force has no bearing on combat prowess, especially when referring to Vader and Sidious, now you want to switch up your stance. Which one is it? And if that is the case, then Jacen should be near the top being he's the only one who can do the flow walk, right?

From the Star Wars Databank:

Shan was gifted in art of Jedi Battle Meditation, a rare ability usually only accessible to the most skilled and wizened Jedi Masters. Through sheer force of will, she could influence the course of massive battles. She could bolster the courage of one side of a battle, while draining the resolve of another. It is an exhausting feat, but Bastila proved extremely valuable in crucial engagements during Darth Malak's campaigns against the Republic.

While she was gifted Jollyjim, she was really powerful in its use. She was able to have the Star Forge pwn all the Republic's Capitol Ships. However, when she abandoned the Forge, the Republic Fleet blasted the Dark Side forge to hell.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Planet, you yourself has said many times that ones power in the force has no bearing on combat prowess, especially when referring to Vader and Sidious, now you want to switch up your stance. Which one is it? And if that is the case, then Jacen should be near the top being he's the only one who can do the flow walk, right?

I never said that Subjekt, though I think I know what you're talking about, as we had quite a long debate on it, and what I was saying was that strength in the force has no relation to innate saber ability. Obviously it can improve one's combat prowess, to deny that is crazy.

but saber ability is combat prowess, or at least a large portion of it, which would still place Vader pretty high on the pecking order. He's extremely intelligent, incredibly strong, and calm and collected, which aids in his combat abilities. Can we say everyone else is that calm and in control? Most likely not, at least not the Sith.

He falls at two.😐

Even if he didnt have a tough battle before hand and was at full power he would still fall at two. 😬

Don't even bring it up Ox .......

Dooku sucks, get over it, he passes him by. If Dooku was at 8 and some one else at two, I'd bet you'd say he'd lose at 8. That debate was never settled and this will only re spark it and cause some other noob to come in and start yet another thread about it.

Im not going to sit here and let all of you Vader lovers say that Vader will beat Dooku when quite simply he wont. Especially after he has already just fought a powerful opponent and only has an hour of rest. Sorry.

An hour or rest is pretty good.....I mean, Shan is not going to be too tough at all.