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Darth Vader runs the Gauntlet!
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Rampant ox
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Im not saying that the hour of rest wont help, but it will still give Dooku the necessary advantage (not that I feel he needs it).


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Dooku would decimate Vader.

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Dooku would decimate Vader.

QFT.


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I will give a hint about Bastilla's power.

Sith Bastilla + Sith Bastilla + Sith Bastilla + Sith Batilla < Revan.

Fight on the Star Forge shows this.

Note: This does not means that Bastilla was weak. She "Force-Waved" the asses of 3 powerful Jedi (including Revan) on the Rakatan Temple, which shows that she can use her mastery in Force to give her edge in combat when needed.

And she has done some impressive things in her life, which shows that she was a powerful Jedi.

But I am comparing her to Revan in one-on-one scenario who is among the TOP 5 Jedi of all times.

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Again, Vader is 80% of Sidious, the most powerful sith ever(as lightsnake put it). I would think he has little difficulty with Bastilla.


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Dooku should definitely be higher up on the list, but, Vader just has a bunch of advantages.

He has more raw power in the force, and about as much experience (what he lacks in years he makes up for in intensity. Anything that The Empire needed done that required a powerful individual that they wouldn't trust to the likes of a bounty hunter, Vader was there).

He also, has a few specific advantages:

Form V: Best against Makashi.
Physical strength: Incredible strength and a form that plays off that,
Armor: That deflects weak blows of Makashi.
Knowledge of Dooku.

I can elaborate or quote one of my unfortunately numerous old posts like this if you want.

Also:
He is great with just his hands, from deflecting bolts to punching!:
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=75&page=070
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=002 -> http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=003
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=043
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=044
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=128
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=129
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=134
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=077
In ESB, he reflected a bolt back with his hands.

He has some great TK abilities:
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=75&page=079
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=75&page=080
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=75&page=088
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=064
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=073
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=038
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=120
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=121
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=132
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=85&page=021
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=072
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=079
He bombarded Luke with debris in ESB.
He choked an admiral kilometers away.
He choked a kajabizziolion people.
He pulled Han (and Bobas) gun away.
He ripped apart a tree in RODV that was unaffected by blaster fire.
He controlled his thrown lightsaber even when a Jedi, who was closer to the saber, tried to stop it.

He's great with his lightsaber:
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=75&page=075
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=065
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=071
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=072
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=074
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=083
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=084
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=77&page=085
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=036
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=037
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=039
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=133
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=79&page=135
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=101&page=032
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=101&page=033
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=101&page=034
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=069
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=070
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=071
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=074
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=075
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=152&page=078
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=128&page=026
http://www.swtimeline.ru/?comics=128&page=027
He beat Luke in ESB.
He beat Obi Wan.
He owned some padawans in RODV.
He carved through an army of wookiees in RODV in seconds.
He toyed with a pair of experienced Jedi Knights in RODV.

Have I made my point? If not, I'm sure I could find more...


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It's quality, not quantity.

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Dooku is superior to Anakin in almost every way on paper. Im sure Dooku's list achievements are also much longer than Anakin own. However who won the fight between them? My point is that merits dont always win one a fight.


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Quality hmm? Well then as a robot Vader is equal to or better than some of the most powerful force users the star wars galaxy has to offer. As a robot he single handidly took down 7-8 Jedi during their meeting thingy during the purge. Vader is GOOD enough as a robot, don't worry about that.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Rampant ox
Dooku is superior to Anakin in almost every way on paper. Im sure Dooku's list achievements are also much longer than Anakin own. However who won the fight between them? My point is that merits dont always win one a fight.


Potential>skill


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Wow I don't know what you're expecting Planet, that's more than enough pictoral evidence.


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edit.


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In all actuality, Kun ought to knock seven shades of shit out of him. Regardless of the previous combatants, he's going down at five.

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In terms of saber combat yes, he would most definitely go down at Kun. However, it's unlikely he'd make it past Dooku due to Dooku's superior saber abilities and force lightning.


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I didn't include a lot of comics, such as Purge.


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What he did in Purge really wasn't that impressive, it's blown completely out of proportion. Of the 8 jedi he faces, they are completely lacking in cohesion, he only actually kills four of them (3 were killed by clones at the end, and one was killed by another jedi), and the jedi that he actually kills all sucked; most of them just ran straight at him with their saber above their head, completely undefended. He also got beat up pretty badly throughout the duel (lost a hand, got part of his helmet chopped off). Really, he doesn't display any skill beyond an average jedi master to be honest.

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Originally posted by jollyjim311
He beat Luke in ESB.


I lol'd.

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In all actuality, Kun ought to knock seven shades of shit out of him. Regardless of the previous combatants, he's going down at five.


I agreed.


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But I am comparing her to Revan in one-on-one scenario who is among the TOP 5 Jedi of all times.


Revan one of the top five? What about Luke, Yoda, Kyp, Jacen, and Kyle? Or Raynar Thul? And I wouldn't be at all surprised if Mace could take him.

Anyway, I doubt that he makes it past 3.


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Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Revan one of the top five? What about Luke, Yoda, Kyp, Jacen, and Kyle? Or Raynar Thul? And I wouldn't be at all surprised if Mace could take him.

Anyway, I doubt that he makes it past 3.



Yes, I would compare Revan to Yoda, Kyp, Jacen, and Kyle. POD pretty much built a legacy for Revan's knowledge and power, so Revan COULD be compared to those. Raynar Thul? Please.


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Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Raynar Thul? Please.


Haha.


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