Iron Man Upgrade

Started by Prof S.T.I.2 pages

Originally posted by Mindship

Secondly: shouldn't certain uberpowerful beings be able to do what Tony's armor can do? I mean, with all the super-duper, hocus-pocus Superman, Thor, the Surfer and others can do, why not this? Heck, what about someone like Galactus? Shouldn't [I]he have armor which constantly surveys, warns and preps?

Why would he need it, doesn't he already have Cosmic/Quantum Awareness ?

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Why would he need it, doesn't he already have Cosmic/Quantum Awareness ?

Yes, but it rarely (if ever?) functions like a proximal warning sense or computational predictor.

I know there have been periods, though, where Superman has had supermemory and superintelligence, but they don't seem to last.

Originally posted by Mindship
Yes, but it rarely (if ever?) functions like a proximal warning sense or computational predictor.

I know there have been periods, though, where Superman has had supermemory and superintelligence, but they don't seem to last.

Brusiek is currently re introducing the concept of 'Super Intelligence'. It would make sense for his brain to act almost like an immense Super computer. Mind you i don't think superman requires a 'Super Spidey sense'. Millar has hinted that Ultimate Thor almost has a some version of precognition, seen when he hits Quicksilver with a lightning bolt in Gods and monsters.

Originally posted by Mindship

First of all, AFAIK, spiders seem to have a precog sense simply because they see so damn well. Hell, some species have eight eyes and excellent vision; nothing escapes
Secondly: shouldn't certain uberpowerful beings be able to do what Tony's armor can do? I mean, with all the super-duper, hocus-pocus Superman, Thor, the Surfer and others can do, why not this? Heck, what about someone like Galactus? Shouldn't he have armor which constantly surveys, warns and preps? [/B]

well cosmic/mystic awareness sums it up nicley cuz guys like surfer and Strange they always like to spout off about how they sense something of cosmic importnace... and genis during battles usually get the drop on ppl with his cosmic awareness.......and as for superman his kyrptonian physiology grants him heightened senses to an nth degree under a yellow sun, the only reason it doesnt drive him insane is becuase he knows how to tune them out...

look at daredevil he uses a combination of all his senses, to interpret, temperture, sound waves ,vibrations, smell, and tasting pheromones in the air [like when he is chasing bad guys and he can taste thier fear] which he collates all that once to come up with a fairly sophisticated radar and sonar system...which translates to his own early warning spidey sense. in fact, ive seen DD recreate a crime scene just by going off scent alone, and the artist even showed blurred after images of what went down to illustrate to the reader as DD was narrating to himself... so i imagine super man should be able to do all that to a more ridiclous extent..

Originally posted by manjaro
already covered.....cosmic awarness.......and kyrptonian physiology granting him heightened senses to an nth degree under a yellow sun

Maybe Superman One million, but not regular Supes ! Although he should have with his immense senses. Something like a 'Super reflex', power.

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Well then u come up with a decent explanation for 'biological precognition' !

A wizard did it............ or, in this case, a magical spider.

😛

Originally posted by Prof S.T.I.
Its has been hinted on various occasions that instincts may have meta physical properties, i.e. they are a very basic form of telepathy/pre- cognition (the ability to predict the future). We know that are instincts are effected by the brains chemistry, and we also know that pheromones can effect the brains chemistry. Therefore pheromones could indirectly effect some basic form of telepathic precognition, that all humans have.

Co-signed.

The only question is, how can Stark replicate this pheromone based defense system into his armor in order to use it in the same manner than Peter or any spider for that matter does? He says something about "isolating it's frequency and creeating a neural net that replicates the system", but that's hardly an explanation for exactly how it works.

Originally posted by Scoobless

It seems stupid though, how can it be a pheromone response? how can pheromones let you know if you're going to set off a bomb or let you know where not to step to avoid CCTV cameras?

Pheromones ?

What dumbass thought that up ? Parkers Spider-Sense has ALWAYS been a mild form of pre-cog, hell Kaine (Spideys clone) has got a stronger version of Spideys powers and his version of spider-sense IS pre cognition.

Bullshit writing from bullshit writers

Originally posted by grey fox
Pheromones ?

What dumbass thought that up ? Parkers Spider-Sense has ALWAYS been a mild form of pre-cog, hell Kaine (Spideys clone) has got a stronger version of Spideys powers and his version of spider-sense [b]IS pre cognition.

Bullshit writing from bullshit writers [/B]

I think youre clever !

Originally posted by grey fox
Pheromones ?

What dumbass thought that up ? Parkers Spider-Sense has ALWAYS been a mild form of pre-cog, hell Kaine (Spideys clone) has got a stronger version of Spideys powers and his version of spider-sense [b]IS pre cognition.

Bullshit writing from bullshit writers [/B]

THANK YOU!

I don't think he needs the Iron-sense. He should've been able to take those guys without it anyway.

Ironman Spider Sense hmm

okay next time he has telepathy because he studied Prof X Brainwaves
and knows the frequency....

later he can teleport by checking up Nightcrawlers "pheromons"

yeah everything is okay....

to be serious, that part was not neccesary. Tony can beat Spidey with his normal powers, writers dont have to give him extra powers which are ridicilious explained.

Originally posted by Arahan
Ironman Spider Sense hmm

okay next time he has telepathy because he studied Prof X Brainwaves
and knows the frequency....

later he can teleport by checking up Nightcrawlers "pheromons"

yeah everything is okay....

to be serious, that part was not neccesary. Tony can beat Spidey with his normal powers, writers dont have to give him extra powers which are ridicilious explained.

No not exactly. I think the whole idea behind him studying his physiology was that he had Peter in the suit for several weeks, and was gaging all his actions while getting readings on his biological and physiological structures. maybe if he got professor X or Nightcrawler to where one of his suits with a bunch of sensors and monitors then maybe he could do that, otherwise it's probably not possible.

To be perfectly honest I kind of like the idea that Tony found a way to enhance himself with a Spider sense and be able to shut off Peters as well. However, I would like a better explanation in regards to how he was able to make it work on himself.

Originally posted by Arahan
Ironman Spider Sense hmm

okay next time he has telepathy because he studied Prof X Brainwaves
and knows the frequency....

later he can teleport by checking up Nightcrawlers "pheromons"

yeah everything is okay....

to be serious, that part was not neccesary. Tony can beat Spidey with his normal powers, writers dont have to give him extra powers which are ridicilious explained.

That was so bad it gave me AIDs. 😐

I always assumed the spider sense was just a limited psionic ability. 😬

You have to remember that a spider sense brings it's own weaknesses.... how many times has Pete been incapacitated by something messing with the frequency (or whatever) that he receives on? remember when he first met his clone? when they got close together their spider senses interfered with each other and they both crumbled under the pain of it..... Goblin gas can knock out the SS, spider tracers have also been used to cause immense pain to Spider-Man before.

If Stark tries to keep it, Pete could wreck him.

Originally posted by Scoobless
You have to remember that a spider sense brings it's own weaknesses.... how many times has Pete been incapacitated by something messing with the frequency (or whatever) that he receives on? remember when he first met his clone? when they got close together their spider senses interfered with each other and they both crumbled under the pain of it..... Goblin gas can knock out the SS, spider tracers have also been used to cause immense pain to Spider-Man before.

If Stark tries to keep it, Pete could wreck him.

That could go either way really, but Tony could turn his off if he wanted to.

It's still a good tactic to distract/confuse him mid battle.

Iron Man's my favorite comic character and all, but come on already.

The writers are just making him TOO powerful. The extremis upgrade took some getting used to, but a technologically derived "spider-sense"?

Tony doesn't need that to beat Spidey (even before the extremis upgrade).