Originally posted by llagrok
What a ridiculous post. Nimbus never stated that Ronan would win against Superman, he simply corrected you.You also claim that Ronan has been "hacked" ? HOW? The only "hack" thing he has done is project a shield powerful enough to stop Black Bolt's whisper. Beyond that, he hasn't really done anything that should be beyond him.
Thanks buddy, his powers/abilities are more than justified...
You're right.
Originally posted by nimbus006
I NEVER said Ronan could beat Superman, look at my first post it clearly states, " Look, Im probably the biggest Ronan fan on this forum, and while he does possess the power to give Superman a hell of a fight I cant see him winning more than 1-2/10". Yes he was a very cool idea, and still is. Ronan is one of the comic characters who leasts gets credit for his showings.Furthermore, Ronan from his earliest showings has been amped very little (if anything at all) compared to MANY other characters who have recieived RIDICULOUS upgrades. Check out his respect thread, all his feats have been within reason from his origin until now. He is the Kree Accuser and possess the Ultimate Weapon which grants him cosmic power. His abilities are more than justified. Cut the guy some freakin slack, he rarely shows up in comics, and your going to say he's over inflated... i think your attention could be turned to much worst characters who's powers have been upgraded for no good reason at all.
You're right - I missed you're earlier post (sorry). And you are right that there are WAY worse offenders then Ronan (who I've always liked) in the whole power amping thing. Still, he has been inflated over the years, and I just don't see him taking Superman. You made good points tho.
Re: You're right.
Originally posted by Cap'n Happy
You're right - I missed you're earlier post (sorry). And you are right that there are WAY worse offenders then Ronan (who I've always liked) in the whole power amping thing. Still, he has been inflated over the years, and I just don't see him taking Superman. You made good points tho.
No worries, its all in good fun 😄 ... I think the natural evolution of comics is for characters to get upgraded. The more we advance in our understanding in regards to physics and the universe, the more information and powersets we can attribute to certain characters.
Originally posted by Cap'n HappySo if Ronan has feats that would allow him to challenge Superman it becomes Hack Writing? 😬
Go back and look at Ronan's first appearances. Powerful, yes, took the FF to the wall, yes. Superman level power? No- not even close.
Ronan was a cool idea- the Kree's judge/jury/executioner all in one (he never gets the credit for being an inspiration for Judge Dread). But...
there is a thing that comic writers do (hack ones, anyway) that drives me nuts; they constantly amp up the power of characters- esp. back bench characters... just to try and come up w/new stories or to make lesser characters popular. This over inflation (of guys like Ronan) then forces the writers of Superman and other heavy hitters to amp THEM up... until you have a comic universe where Robin is now as powerful as Martian Manhunter used to be- and MM is now as powerful as Jesus and Buddha, on a good day.
I don't doubt you could find ex. showing how Ronan could hold his own, or even defeat Superman. I just dismiss it as hack writing. Look, just go ask you Grandmother if Ronan could beat Superman. Her answer:"But sonny, Ramen are noodles... and no one can beat Superman."
Grandma knows.
I mean most of this post just seems to say only popular character's feats should be allowed to get better. And only popular characters can get those feats used because they aren't hack writing.
I mean seriously if nimbus can show scans where Ronan could fight Superman then Ronan can fight Superman.
Edit: I may be wrong but that is what it sounded like.
Originally posted by llagrok
What a ridiculous post. Nimbus never stated that Ronan would win against Superman, he simply corrected you.You also claim that Ronan has been "hacked" ? HOW? The only "hack" thing he has done is project a shield powerful enough to stop Black Bolt's whisper. Beyond that, he hasn't really done anything that should be beyond him.
By the way two of my earlier scans are yours... I dont want to be given credit for them 😉
Ronan has the chops and the versatility to take 2 (maybe even 3) wins out of 10. Give him some prep and he could take even more. I can see him generating kryptonite radiation while taking it to Superman HtH. His shields could hold Supes off for a bit, and if he can slow him down (black hole or energy drain), the hammer-break that he used against Ravenous would do some damage.
K-nite is not a possibility. Ronan doesn't have cosmic awareness (which IMO, Surfer does not use or appear to have 95% of the time.) and I don't think he'll figure out the red sun thing fast, if at all.
Has Ronan brawled with anyone high end? Like Thor, or Drax or Thanos? Cause if he can throw down with Thor and do well, then I'd give him a win or two against Supes. If not, he's boned. Also, 1 example of speed isn't quite enough to say he can deal with Superman's insane combat speed.
Originally posted by tkitna
I like Ronan too, but I think he jobs a good bit. Didnt Gamora smack him around recently?I wish he could win a few, but I have to side with Superman.
That Gamora was enhanced to a tremendous degree, and she didn't smack him around, he ended when he felt it was time to stop messing around...
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
K-nite is not a possibility. Ronan doesn't have cosmic awareness (which IMO, Surfer does not use or appear to have 95% of the time.) and I don't think he'll figure out the red sun thing fast, if at all.Has Ronan brawled with anyone high end? Like Thor, or Drax or Thanos? Cause if he can throw down with Thor and do well, then I'd give him a win or two against Supes. If not, he's boned. Also, 1 example of speed isn't quite enough to say he can deal with Superman's insane combat speed.
Ravenous was pretty high end
He's thrown down with Genis (merged), and came out on top
Huh... he really doesnt take part in h2h combat, he once said "there is no need for me to soil my hands with direct physical contact with any foe"... plus he really doesnt have that many showings so usually the showings he does have are all with his weapon.