Dooku Respect Thread.

Started by ((The_Anomaly))8 pages

Dooku Respect Thread.

Well, I'm not sure that this thread has ever been seriously done, but I feel that the Ol' Count doesn't get enough respect around these here parts. Particularly in the VS. Forums. Despite the fact that the annoying debate over Anakin VS. Dooku aimlessly rages on (even though its been proven Anakin> Dooku) I think that Dooku is mostly underrated. I'd say Dooku is in the top 12 Sith Lords overall (and Jedi oddly enough) and within the top 5 (possibly the top 3) Sith duelists. Dooku is, in the words of Sam Jackson, one bad@ss mothaf***a! And he can dish out pwnage like no ones business.

Here is a guy who can duel with Yoda, and Mace, and Anakin, and the like. Here is a guy that taught Grievous, and Asajj, both awesome duelists, yet can still own them casually if he sees fit. Here is a guy who tools Obi-Wan like its afternoon teatime. He is Dooku, and this is his respect thread. So, come, post scans, quotes, feats, random cool pictures of the Count. Lets get this rollin', and put a little spring back in Dooku's step. 😮‍💨

PS. Rampant, this thread is dedicated to you. 😛

Sauruman would take him.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
So, come, post scans, quotes, feats, random cool pictures of the Count. Lets get this rollin', and put a little spring back in Dooku's step. 😮‍💨
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Sauruman would take him.

Who's "Sauruman"?

Saruman sucks, anyways. LEGOLAS FTW, BABY! Just kidding, Lord of the Rings sucks.

Originally posted by Advent
Who's "Sa[b]uruman"?

Saruman sucks, anyways. LEGOLAS FTW, BABY! Just kidding, Lord of the Rings sucks. [/B]

Coming from a Kevin Federline/Paris Hilton fan...I think.

@ Advent

Don't you have a Dooku Feat Wars post you can submit here?

Dooku's that old dead guy isn't he?

Originally posted by Tangible God
Dooku's that old dead guy isn't he?
You mean that old guy who got

?

Then yes.

Originally posted by Black Dalek
Coming from a Kevin Federline/Paris Hilton fan...I think.

Excuse you?

Kevin Federline is easily the greatest male recording artist, dancer, and superstar of his years. He's really above, and beyond the rest. Likewise, Paris Hilton is, if anything, the female equivalent to K-Fed in terms of being 1337. I really don't see how you get any better than those two.

As for the topic (I removed most of the irrelevant things about Malak):

Originally posted by Advent
1.) Dooku is called by narration to be exactly "one of the most respected and powerful Jedi [b]in the Order's twenty-five-thousand-year history", and is stated to be "an even greater Sith" (by narration, and Yoda's dialogue indicates this as well); albeit, it's true he's not "number 2" of the era, but he's what? Like the fifth best in an era where the Jedi Order is at its prime? Above the likes of Obi-Wan, Grievous, Sora, Maul, etc. A little more impressive, I'd say.

2.) Let's see, his displays of Force mastery suggests his power is tremendous (and what did Malak ever do with the Force that was impressive, btw? Choking a guard? Lol. Dooku choked out Komari Vosa.). There's the fact ROTS Obi-Wan isn't even a match for Dooku's Force power, he was owned at literally the flick of the wrist:

"He gathered the Force once more in a single indrawn breath that summoned power from throughout the universe; the slightest whipcrack of that power, negligent as a flick of his wrist, sent Kenobi flying backward to crash hard against the wall."

Also note that he did this while fending off Anakin. He also did tool Asajj Ventress, who we know is pretty powerful. Not the strongest, but still. And he also - with one finger - brought Ventress down to her knees:

"Her face went pale. Dooku lifted that one finger, and this time he tapped it in the air, as if pushing a needle into a pincushion. Ventress crumpled to her knees. Her voice came out clotted with pain. Dooku made another little patting motion, and Ventress slammed to the tile floor. "

So, we have a flick of the wrist, a tap of the finger, patting motion. "Strong in the Force this one is", eh? From the AOTC novelization, when he puts Anakin out of commission for a time:

"Dooku's hand shot out toward the charging Jedi, sending forth a Force push as solid as any stone wall, and a burst of blue Force lightning. With a wave of his hand, Dooku sent Anakin flying across the room, to crash into a distant wall, where he slumped down, dazed.

He was able to completely revitalize himself using just the Force (ROTS novel), suggesting he doesn't need some dumbass Jedi captives to do it, lol. We know he's obviously a proficient Force lightning user by his displays in AOTC, and other various things. He was able to own Sora Bulq, and knock him out with Force lightning:

As seen in the background is Tholme, who himself is no weakling was battling with Dooku 2-on-1, and even so Dooku still beat Sora, and right after spared Tholme, only of course, after owning him with his saber as well:

Really though, Dooku has a vast amount of training, and experience over Malak. Roughly 80+ years of it. Since we know he was trained as a youngling, he has about 70+ years experience as a Jedi, and 13 years as a Sith Lord. Now, we know experience definitely isn't everything, however, to deny it gives an advantage is purely ridiculous. For example, throughout those years - he is stated to know "Every weakness of Ataru" (his duel against Yoda obviously didn't end in a victory, however, Yoda's pure skill is probably better than anything).

And within those years, has mastered Makashi - the lightsaber to lightsaber form - to it's highest degree. Admittedly, forms are necessity for victory, however, it's clue that Dooku's lightsaber skills are no joke. And one thing that matters not is Dooku's age:

"Physically, the Count's age was rarely a handicap. Deft as he had become with the Force-unimaginably more subtle than the boy who had watched water-skeeters in the Jedi gardens all those years ago-he wore his eighty-three standard years better than most humans half his age. He was still in superb physical shape, senses keen, health undiminished by even the memory of a cold."

So, just to put that out there because I've heard a lot of people say stuff like "Dude! Character X is so much younger!".

He has also bested Mace Windu in personal combat before, now Windu wasn't at his peak, however, he still beat him (it's kind of irrelevant to even bring up, but just to add to the fact). He's also described as "Dooku, consummate planner, consummate duelist." Consummate meaning perfect or to the highest degree. Clearly Dooku's skill with a lightsaber is amazing. Even Yoda comments on his skills:

"Yoda stirred again with his stick. "Then best of all would be the strongest student, yes? Wisest? Most learned in the ways of the Force?" He nodded. "Best of all, Dooku would be!"

Calling him the strongest student, and one that has learned the most. We also know Dooku is more powerful than Grievous, who has slain numerous Jedi Masters with ease (Council member as well), Asajj Ventress, and so on.
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Advent, please be joking about Kevin Federline... his only talent was mooching off of Britney Spears (who was far more famous and more popular than he'll ever be).

No, because Kevin Federline comes tight with every rhyme.

Kevin Federline is easily the greatest male recording artist, dancer, and superstar of his years. He's really above, and beyond the rest. Likewise, Paris Hilton is, if anything, the female equivalent to K-Fed in terms of being 1337. I really don't see how you get any better than those two

Well, not to mention he got his ASS FU-ed by John Cena on WWE Raw and all, so....

Dooku is overrated since he lost to Anakin so easily.

That doesn't quite make sense? Wouldn't it be underrated since he lost to Anakin?

Originally posted by Advent
No, because Kevin Federline comes tight with every rhyme.

Your music taste is now in question. 😐

Anyway, Dooku pwns.

Originally posted by Gideon
Your music taste is now in question. 😐

Anyway, Dooku pwns.

Amen to that.

Learn what real music is (P.S. Having any talent at all to speak of helps).

Never heard of them. Honestly? For "era" of talent - it's gotta go to the '70s and '80s. The greatest and most proficient guitarists, singers, and drummers were birthed from that era. All this "nu age!" crap and emo music is unbearable. I like classic rock, hard rock, and most metal (note: metal singers who can sing - not scream aimlessly like a dying antelope).

Originally posted by Gideon
Never heard of them. Honestly? For "era" of talent - it's gotta go to the '70s and '80s. The greatest and most proficient guitarists, singers, and drummers were birthed from that era. All this "nu age!" crap and emo music is unbearable. I like classic rock, hard rock, and most metal (note: metal singers who can sing - not scream aimlessly like a dying antelope).
True, true. But still, there are some good bands in this day and age. We're just lacking nostalgia.

Originally posted by General Kenobl
Well, not to mention he got his [B]ASS FU-ed by John Cena on WWE Raw and all, so.... [/B]

Lol!

Please. Did you even see what happened in the beginning of the show? K-Fed was able to pin the WWE Champ, which is an almost unattainable feat given that John Cena is an over pushed, lame face, who always seems to "overcome the odds", and only has a moveset consisting of five moves.

Anyways, he only got FU-ed because John Cena is a cheap *****, and decided to attack Kevin after the final match, without letting him know. In a real life fight, K-Fed would whoop his ass. Compare:

Now, are you really going to tell me that the guy on the right (John Cena) can touch K-Fed?

Originally posted by Gideon
Your music taste is now in question.

How so? Just listen, and learn:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pIIQEqO-uRU

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Amen to that.

Learn what real music is (P.S. Having any talent at all to speak of helps).

I know what "real" music is. And it's not that trash rock singing about killing goats, and having your band named after something like an elephant.

Realistically speaking, though, I just listen to anything that sounds good.

Originally posted by Lord Saboteur
True, true. But still, there are some good bands in this day and age. We're just lacking nostalgia.

Oh, I agree. But there's no one in popular music today who can contend with the likes of Freddie Mercury, Steve Perry, Ian Gillen, Robert Plant, Bruce Dickinson, or Geoff Tate in a singing match. There's no guitarist who has achieved the level of proficiency as Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Randy Rhoads (R.I.P), Steve Vai, Eric Clapton, Neal Schon, Carlos Santana, or Angus Young. And, as for drummers, there is no one on planet freakin' Earth who can outdrum Neil Peart (in contemporary music).