Thanos/Darksied vs. Odin/Shazam

Originally posted by Evangel94
1 hour of prep isn't going to do anything when you put the battle in Asgard and on the Rock of Eternity.

Being in Asgard is a huge power advantage to Odin. He can draw extra energy from all over Asgard if necessary.

You keep comparing Darkseid beating DC's version of various god pantheons. The pantheons in Marvel are alot stronger than their DC counterparts. You can't really compare them power wise.

So basically your saying Marvel>>DC becuz there is no proof that DC's pantheon's are any weaker than marvels. Not one shred of proof at all. DC's Zeus is on the quintessence and they are all nearly peers. The PS and Ganthet are on that. And DC's Odin was able to banish Surtur. The same surtur who was able to stalemate Dr. fate, Alan scott and JOHNNY THUNDERBOLT's Genie. SO where is this proof that Marvel's Pantheons' are stronger than DC's? In fact the Cannonical JLAVENERGERS says that DC's magic is a lot stronger than marvels. The Gods are all MAGICAL.

Originally posted by Evangel94
I gave my opinion and you rejected it. Then you rejected the opinion of the person who came after me. Then person who came after that. Then you got mad at the people of KMC forums who were telling you the truth that this thread may have some possible spite in it.

You just won't accept the possibility of Darkseid losing.

Galactus
Spectre
Mxy
Yuga Khan (maybe)
The Inbetweener
Nabu
and others.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS loses against

Galactus
Spectre
Mxy
Yuga Khan (maybe)
The Inbetweener
Nabu
and others.

So your saying anyone whose below Galactus's power level, Darkseid won't lose to?

Originally posted by Evangel94
So your saying anyone whose below Galactus's power level, Darkseid won't lose to?

Non job DS won't lose to anyone who is below Odin lvl. Not in a str8 up fight. No Sun amping and source protecting and source walls. No. He certainly can stalemate at Odin tho. I don't think he can beat Odin per say. Not on Power Alone. I don' think Odin can beat him on power alone either. Becuz DS is more powerful than Thanos and Thanos was able to give Odin a good run.

Nvr, Evangel. Stop it now.

I really don't care who started what or who's spiting, bashing, etc. If you can't avoid this sort of thing, just avoid each other in the threads.

Odin & Shazam - in Asgard, at the Rock Of Eternity, and anywhere else. 😉

Originally posted by roughrider
Odin & Shazam - in Asgard, at the Rock Of Eternity, and anywhere else. 😉

Does Thanos Previous Battle with Odin mean nothing? How does DS do against Shazam? I think DS would Beat Shazam after a nice quick fight. Leaving DS and THanos against Odin. I think if the battle where the other way, DS fighting Odin they would stalemate or Odin would hold the slight edge in Asgard, and Shazam would beat Thanos with some magicary and then aid Odin to beat Ds. Could go either way. Especially given Thanos and DS have an hour prep. Both have been shown to have rediculous tech and shields.

Someone who loses to Superman is not beating or stalemating Odin.

Originally posted by Wally West
Someone who loses to Superman is not beating or stalemating Odin.

DS has never lost to Superman without midigating circumstances. Irgo, a sum amp, the source wall, being hit with his own OE. I remember DS beating superman soundly until Diana blocked the OE.And Current DS hasn't lost to superman. He's screwed ALL of the NEW Gods and destroyed the 4th world.

Ok then, someone who loses to a sun-amped Superman is not beating or stalemating Odin.

Originally posted by Wally West
Ok then, someone who loses to a sun-amped Superman is not beating or stalemating Odin.

I dont' think he lost to superman. I seem to remember him being held by the source wall. At any point, it's irrelevant since DS has been currently shown to have power over pocket realities and ALL of the new gods.

Odin and Darkseid may be closer in powerlevel than Thanos and Odin, but Thor's father is still winning. DS lost to Supes, its not just that, he got hurted by him, with that durability he is not beating Odin.

An estimation: Thor warrior madness with the power gem is stronger (or as strong if we must) than Supes sundipped, that Thor was still unable to put Thanos down, but Thanos was barely surviving against Odin -and the skyfather wasnt going all out. Darkseid was hurted by Clark, by an implication of durabilities, he is not standing against Odin at his full power.

Darkseid got chumped by Superman twice.

Once on the sun, but the first time he merely got thumped by a Superman firing at max on all cylinders. All out Superman owned Darkseid in Apok Now. He also got punched in the face and thrown through a boomtube, along with his forces of Apok in Action comics, iirc.

Its part of his average, whether you like it or not.

Only somebody who isn't mature enough to debate correctly would try to toss out bad showings solely in favor of good ones.

Face the fact that for several years, Darkseid only showed up to get beaten and humiliated.
It happened, and only a fanboy would try to pretend that it didn't.

I'm not gonna call you a fanboy, but try on the shoe and see if it fits.

Nabu isn't more powerful than Odin.
Shazam definitely isn't more powerful than Odin.
Mordru doesn't approach Odin, now or before COIE, when he used to beat on Kryptonians.

Thanos is more durable than Darkseid.

Odin and Shazam win.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Darkseid got chumped by Superman twice.

Once on the sun, but the first time he merely got thumped by a Superman firing at max on all cylinders. All out Superman owned Darkseid in Apok Now. He also got punched in the face and thrown through a boomtube, along with his forces of Apok in Action comics, iirc.

Its part of his average, whether you like it or not.

Only somebody who isn't mature enough to debate correctly would try to toss out bad showings solely in favor of good ones.

Face the fact that for several years, Darkseid only showed up to get beaten and humiliated.
It happened, and only a fanboy would try to pretend that it didn't.

I'm not gonna call you a fanboy, but try on the shoe and see if it fits.

Nabu isn't more powerful than Odin.
Shazam definitely isn't more powerful than Odin.
Mordru doesn't approach Odin, now or before COIE, when he used to beat on Kryptonians.

Thanos is more durable than Darkseid.

Odin and Shazam win.

Wait aminute you just said for the past several years that DS has been beaten and humiliated but Only mentioned two low showins? HUH? Only someone who isn't mature enough to realize two bad showings against hundreds of others don't mean squat. And Who ever said DS was more durable than Thanos? Not me? I said DS was more powerful. Hell THor is stronger than ODin but Odin is more powerful. Please dont' talk trash and you can't even talk it right. You also said Shazam isn't more powerful than ODin when he clearly gave spectre a good fight. I woudln't put him as more powerful, but certainly near it or at it. Same for Nabu and MOrdru. Lords of Order and Chaos.

What you don't realize, is that i don't believe Darkseid is defined by his low showings.

I never said that was the case.

But they do heavily affect his overall average.

100 + 88 + 25+ 0 = shitastic averages.

3 really bad grades can kill a really good student, ask anyone who's been in school beyond elementary levels.

You don't seem to realize this.

Its always easier to bring an average down, than to beef it back up.

Superman handed Darkseid his ass on three different occasions, with S/B being the most favorable to Darkseid.

The other two times were just craptastic, but need to be factored in, rather than tossed by the wayside, as you'd have us do.

Darkseids overall score is bad right now, due to poor handling in recent years.