Originally posted by Lord Evolution
If Shaq was not on the team the Heat would not have won. No he did NOT win the championship single handedly.
Yea, ok, what exactly did Shaq do in last years finals for you to say that. A statement like that makes me question the fact that you even seen last years Finals.
Originally posted by wuTa
Yea, ok, what exactly did Shaq do in last years finals for you to say that. A statement like that makes me question the fact that you even seen last years Finals.
No they would not have won.
So you saying Shaq's presence had nothing to do with Wade going crazy?
If Shaq was not on the team:
1. They wold not have been in the finals.
2. Possibly could have missed playoffs but definitely would not have made it as the #2 seed.
Originally posted by Lord Evolution
No they would not have won.So you saying Shaq's presence had nothing to do with Wade going crazy?
If Shaq was not on the team:
1. They wold not have been in the finals.
2. Possibly could have missed playoffs but definitely would not have made it as the #2 seed.
😆 😆
Ok. I know Shaq helped a little with the Heat winning the Finals. He is Shaq, after all. But they still would have gave the Mavs a run without Shaq. They still would have made the Finals. How can you say they would possiblly MISS THE PLAYOFFS? You do realize Shaq isn't Shaq anymore, don't you? And plus, it's the Eastern Conference. Alonzo Mourning did 1000 times more than Shaq did in the Playoffs.
If Wade was not on the team.
1. They don't get passed the first round, possibly swept.
Originally posted by DanZeke25
😆 😆Ok. I know Shaq helped a little with the Heat winning the Finals. He is Shaq, after all. But they still would have gave the Mavs a run without Shaq. They still would have made the Finals. How can you say they would possiblly MISS THE PLAYOFFS? You do realize Shaq isn't Shaq anymore, don't you? And plus, it's the Eastern Conference. Alonzo Mourning did 1000 times more than Shaq did in the Playoffs.
If Wade was not on the team.
1. They don't get passed the first round, possibly swept.
I know your a Wade fanboy, but to say the Heat would have made the Finals without Shaq is ridiculous. They would not have gotten past New Jersey.
The Heat have done so poor without Shaq, just look at their record w/o him. The stats don't lie.
Originally posted by Lord Evolution
No they would not have won.So you saying Shaq's presence had nothing to do with Wade going crazy?
If Shaq was not on the team:
1. They wold not have been in the finals.
2. Possibly could have missed playoffs but definitely would not have made it as the #2 seed.
I didn't ask you if they would have won, I asked you what exactly did Shaq do in last years final to backup your claim. When Shaq was winning championships with the Lakers he was getting doubled, and tripled, and that would allow Kobe to take over. Last year, Wade was the one getting doubled and tripled, and he still was able to average 30 a game in the Finals. Sure, Shaq played a part with the Heat last year, but his impact in the Finals was anything but Shaq like, it was actually pretty average, and way below his standard of play.
Originally posted by wuTa
I didn't ask you if they would have won, I asked you what exactly did Shaq do in last years final to backup your claim. When Shaq was winning championships with the Lakers he was getting doubled, and tripled, and that would allow Kobe to take over. Last year, Wade was the one getting doubled and tripled, and he still was able to average 30 a game in the Finals. Sure, Shaq played a part with the Heat last year, but his impact in the Finals was anything but Shaq like, it was actually pretty average, and way below his standard of play.
Shaq was still drawing double teams playing at his weakest.
But my point is, the Heat would not have won the Finals had Shaq not been there.
Even when he isn't scoring, he sill has an impact. Just his presence on the court makes the other team change their game plan completely. The Mavericks would not have game planned against Shaq, it would have been against Wade. Which I'm not saying they would have completely shut him down, but he definitely would not have gone off like he did and in the end the Heat would not have won the Finals.
Especially seeing how the games were close, take Shaq away and it is a whole different story.
Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Shaq was still drawing double teams playing at his weakest.But my point is, the Heat would not have won the Finals had Shaq not been there.
Even when he isn't scoring, he sill has an impact. Just his presence on the court makes the other team change their game plan completely. The Mavericks would not have game planned against Shaq, it would have been against Wade. Which I'm not saying they would have completely shut him down, but he definitely would not have gone off like he did and in the end the Heat would not have won the Finals.
Especially seeing how the games were close, take Shaq away and it is a whole different story.
But thats the thing, the Mavs didn't gameplan against Shaq, there gameplan was to stop Wade, and let Shaq try and beat them, but there gameplan still didnt stop Wade, he was still hitting jumpers while gettin doubled, and tripled team, the only difference Shaq made was during Wade's drives, but that lead to Wade creating buckets for Shaq, not Shaq creating buckets for Wade.