Marvel Ultimate Alliance: 2

Started by nimbus0065 pages

Couple things I would like to see different:

1. More powers- In XML each character has like 16 different powers to choose from. Marvel; UA only had like 8 per character. One thing I would LOVE to see is a change in the appearance of the power attack each time you upgrade it. For example; Thor's lightnting should start off small, and as you level up it should get bigger and "nastier" each time.

2. Better Villians/bosses- Although a few bosses were awesome i.e Ymir, Mephisto, Galactus, many of the villians in this story line had nothing to do with anything going on in the story, i.e Video man (or carnival guy), Scorpion and many others. Throw in some better top tier guys and your good.

3. Different Heroes- I liked the line-up, but it eventually has to change or people will get bored.

4. More costumes like XML: 2.

5. Make characters like Thor, Surfer, and IM be able to lift heavier things.

One thing I really dislike about Alliance is the complete lack of realism as far as power-levels go regarding the villians.

Ymir, Mephisto, Galactus? They'd completely wipe out 99% of the heroes in the game in less than a second - how the hell should you be allowed to fight & beat them?

They should have at least kept the bullshit PIS out of the game.

I'm completely anticipating a team of Thing, Spider-Man, Iceman, & Elektra taking out Thanos & Surtur in MUA2. Lame

Personally I would like to see some more realism to the power levels and what they are supposed to mean.

I mean if you are gonna have Thor be able to fly and lift the heaviest objects in the game then by god make them worth something more.

Now while flying is quite helpful many characters who don't have it can be just as useful and strength is a joke in the game oh look I can lift something a little heavier then Spiderman but is doesn't matter.

I mean if your as strong as Thor then you should be able to grapple bosses or toss boulders that actually hurt then enemy to some degree that and it should also give a boost to striking.

Basically I would like to see skills actually be useful instead of just eye pleasures. I mean if Wolverine is a better fighter than allow him to fight faster if Thor can Fly and has heavey lifting then allow him to fly with objects and villians. Make them actually be worthwhile and allow you to use skill points on them.

I would also like to see characters with different powers get different powers to use instead of the same old thing. Every character has that close melee bash attack. And for most people some powers are just upgrades of old ones or are very similar just look at ghost rider he has two attacks that do the samething with very littel difference.

Basically if you are going to put Wolverine in a game his claws are his powers so make his striking more powerful then actually giving him a bersaerker swipe or whatever. Also give him a berserker mode power and a senses power that allow him to see know where all the villians on the mini-map.

Also make characters that are supposed to be stronger more powerful. Thor should be able to beat Wolverine or Cap ina one on one match.

That and I would like to see a roster that isn't half made up of X-men. I mean there are characters out there that are also somewhat known. Like instead of Colossus have Hulk. You shouldn't need Storm if you have Thor.

Also the bad guy line up needs to be up more instead of all Spiderman Villians. I mean if you have a team of Strange Thor Silver Surfer, and Iron Man Mysterio shouldn't be hard. Scorpion shouldn't be able to fight them one on four.

I played it on PS2 so there were only 3 characters of the 24 were X-Men 😬 Wolverine and Storm were obvious inclusions as two of the most recognizable characters not just within the X-Men, but in Marvel as a whole.

Although I agree there shouldn't be as many characters with similar powers.

Gotta take into consideration that this game is aimed towards non-comic readers as well, so the gameplay is always gonna be unrealistic to an extent.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I played it on PS2 so there were only 3 characters of the 24 were X-Men 😬 Wolverine and Storm were obvious inclusions as two of the most recognizable characters not just within the X-Men, but in Marvel as a whole.

Although I agree there shouldn't be as many characters with similar powers.

thats 3 to many for my tastes especially for something called avengers 😛

Originally posted by Maestro
Gotta take into consideration that this game is aimed towards non-comic readers as well, so the gameplay is always gonna be unrealistic to an extent.
I know what you mean but I would rather it be a more to an extent

You see I would like this game to be based on more roles like to you have your heavey battlers like Thor and Hulk or Wolverine. Then I would like to see people who can fight but their abilities are suited to different things.

For instance besides his shield toss power what I would like to see with Captain America is a lot of bossting powers that say boost his teams effeciency in battle like a general. Smart people like Spiderman should be used to hack computers and stuff.

That way people would actually have to give some thought to the people they picked and the powers would be more representative to the person.

Originally posted by Newjak
thats 3 to many for my tastes especially for something called avengers 😛
I've used Storm a bit and Iceman a bit. Wolverine wasn't great. I found Thing and Mr Fantastic pretty useless. Likewise Elektra. Carol kinda sucked too. I don't think I've used Blade at all. So I'm hoping for some different characters in the next game.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I've used Storm a bit and Iceman a bit. Wolverine wasn't great. I found Thing and Mr Fantastic pretty useless. Likewise Elektra. Carol kinda sucked too. I don't think I've used Blade at all. So I'm hoping for some different characters in the next game.
I never used a single X-man I used Thor, Iron Man, Thing/Silver Surfer and the last spot was always opend for whoever my little bro wanted to play.

I agree tho better characters would be cooler like Hulk would be good maybe Black Bolt I mean they did introduce him.

My team was basically IW, Dr Strange, Iron Man and Thor/Silver Surfer. Black Bolt would have been a good character to have.

Meh, one dimensional tanks like Hulk or Juggernaut ( 😖hifty: ) have never been that interesting to me...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
My team was basically IW, Dr Strange, Iron Man and Thor/Silver Surfer. Black Bolt would have been a good character to have.

Meh, one dimensional tanks like Hulk or Juggernaut ( 😖hifty: ) have never been that interesting to me...

😆

I think Juggernaut should be a villian in the next game

I usually used a lot of street levelers for the game and preferred it that way (Although I thought Thor was a great character)

My team usually consisted of

Cap/Nick Fury
Thor/Black Widow
Ms Marvel/Hawkeye
Genis/Blade

I loved the game although there were one or two annoyances here and there. Also there are some obvious improvements. I would love to see actual comic book missions where you play a back story. I don't want one mission where Cap fights winter soldier. I want him to be on a beach in Normandy fighting Nazi's and Red Skull. I want spidey in a NY back mission fighting Carnage or Venom. I don't want them to fight in levels based on levels in the main game, it's a copout 🙁

Originally posted by boriquaking55
One thing I really dislike about Alliance is the complete lack of realism as far as power-levels go regarding the villians.

Ymir, Mephisto, Galactus? They'd completely wipe out 99% of the heroes in the game in less than a second - how the hell should you be allowed to fight & beat them?

They should have at least kept the bullshit PIS out of the game.

I'm completely anticipating a team of Thing, Spider-Man, Iceman, & Elektra taking out Thanos & Surtur in MUA2. Lame

I agree completely. the problem with that is Marvel's most Marketable guys are low end heroes like Cap, Wolverine, and Spiderman. However, yes the next game should have more higher powered heroes to take on the big boys.

A good idea would be to have four categories such as Cosmic, high powered, brick, and street leveler. Then you have to pick one character per category. You would have six choices per category:

Cosmic

Silver Surfer
Genis
Quasar
Nova
Drax
Dr. Strange (not really cosmic, but i needed to fill one)

High powered:

Thor/BRB
Iron Man
Human Torch
Iceman
Ghost Rider
Ms. Marvel

Bricks:

Hulk
Thing
She Hulk
Gladiator
Sentry
Wonderman

Street Leveler:

Captain America
Wolverine
Reed Richards
Spiderman
Daredevil
Cyclops

Villians: There should be one major boss per act: then each boss has sub bosses that do their dirty work in each level. Galactus gathers villians from every corner and unites them in attempt to destroy Earth.

Act 1

Major boss: Magneto
Sub bosses: Juggernaut, Exodus, and Stryfe

Act 2

Major boss: Dr. Doom w/ cosmic enhancment from Galactus
Sub bosses: Loki, Baron Mordo, and Absorbing man

Act 3
Major boss: Apocalypse
Sub bosses: Four Horsemen (two at a time), and Mr. Sinister

Act 4

Major boss: Annihilus
Sub boss: Ronan, Super Skrull, and Kang

Act 5

Major boss: Galactus
Sub bosses: Terrax, Firelord, and Morg

Replace Namor for Wonderman or Sentry

Marvel: The Villain Alliance 🙂

Some ideas for the next game.

- You should have like 4 places in your team. One heavy hitter, one metahuman, one middleleveller and one streetleveller. I'd have them all have different weaknesses and advantages so you'd want to play as the streetleveller too.

- I'd get rid many of the previous characters of the previous game. Wolverine, he's not necessary. They really can't add anything to his character, without making something stupid up. Same goes with Spiderman and likes. Thor has a wide array of powers, so he could maybe make a comeback, but why would they want BRB as a different character? They're way too similiar with Thor.

I'd also drop some stupid brick from the game. We have Thing, no need for Hulk. We have Surfer, no need for Gladiator (Even though I'd have Hulk over Thing and Gladiator over Surfer in the next game, just for the chance)

- I'd also have some of the weaker characters like Strom *Evades a Storm fan attack*. She's not a freaking melee fighter. Have her adding lightning to her attacks, or something similiar. Have her fighting from the range. Etc. IMO every character needs a ranged attack to go with his/her melee attacks (If they really aren't melee fighters) . And get rid of the charge attack or make it a lot better.

Hey stop stealing my ideas 😠

No seriously i really think they should have the four category thing to balance the teams out.

I would definitely want Juggernaut playable. I loved playing as him in XML 2. I would like him to be playable on a next gen system as well. I also wouldn't mind having Venom as a playable character. Those are really the only 2 additions that would make this game perfect for me, and to give them the appropriate strength and the right powers.

Maybe they could add some of their Marvel Zombies costumes as well.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Hey stop stealing my ideas 😠

No seriously i really think they should have the four category thing to balance the teams out.

I don't think you need to really have different categories just makes sure that you have different characters with different abilities for different things.

One category would be the fighters this group is all about battle.
For instance Thor is in effect a powerhouse fighter in thats the wya it should be he should have the highest striking highest body and even focus. His powers should all be very strong in damage. Hulk would also fit into this

Then I would have a booster/supporter these guys are here to really help out the rest of the team. Captain America should be a booster/support guy. He can attack from far away with his shield although it doesn't do super damage but his biggest advantage is that his powers boost friends or reduce enemies stats powers stuff like that. And his powers would have to be useful although his focus should be low. For instance he could make teammates move at double speed or their power effects are doubled for how many seconds.

Then I would have a Thinker. These are the smart guys whose powers may not be the greatest but you can not get on without them. For instance these guys would open doors that have been shut down or they use computers. An example would be Spiderman or Reed. They're powers cna be useful but they aren't that good in a fight.

Then I would have the all rounder. A perfect example would be Ironman. He can fight and his armor can offer support by giving other people shields and he is smart enough. But the problem is that they would be a jack of all trades master of none. Thier powers are good but they couldn't fight a room by themselves. They can boost but not that much. They can think but not that well. Basically it would be that they are a third of everyother class.

I haven't played the first one yet, but it'd be cool to see Wonder Man as a playable. Or Gladiator.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
I haven't played the first one yet, but it'd be cool to see Wonder Man as a playable. Or Gladiator.

Have you played the XML games? If you liked them then you will like this game. There are room for improvements but overall well worth the buy IMO. ✅

Plus if you buy it for psp you get Genis, Ronin, Black Widow and Hawkeye as playable characters (Hawkeye rocks) 🤘