Kar Vastor VS Kas'im

Originally posted by General Kenobl
Why are you so interested unless you Nebaris/Sith'Ari or whatever sock name you've had?

Remember your days as Planet/The Sith'Ari Nebaris? And I said "Sith'Ari", not "The Sith'Ari".

1. It was in respons to Lightsnake saying that Kar is strong enough with the force to resist Kas'im, Advent just posted while I was typing.

2. When you said 'sith'ari', I assumed that you were referring to 'The Sith'ari' who has been still posting pretty recently, and who's account is restricted.

Kas'im didn't redirect the energy blast. Now I know you're Nebaris.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Wait a second.

The competitor is a massive black guy? Raised in the jungle no less? Well then, even if this Vastor guy couldn't use the force, I would still give it to him.

THE TRUTH!

And yes the classic "redirect force wave" argument...Nebaris, if your trying to pose as anther person, you shouldn't make it sooo damn obvious.

I'd give this to Kas'im. He's was the best swordmaster of his time by a very large marin. Bane was stated to be no match for him. Kar has stronger Force powers, but Kas'im's own powers are plenty to defend him from anything that Vastor can through at him. So, Kas'im wins.

hardly. Vastor's strength is pretty much greater and not even Mace thought he could beat Kar. Add that to a gigantic terrain advantage

Mace could be Kar though. He was underestimating himself. Kas'im is strong enough in the Force to defend himself from anything that Kar can throw at him. From what I've seen, Kas'im is a fair bit better than Vastor in melee combat. Kas'im has FAR more experince fighting real opponents and actually had formal training. I just don't see Vastor being able to top him.

By "melee combat" I assume you mean with a lightsaber. Because in a fist fight or on sheer physical prowess? Kas'im would get his ass turned inside out by Kar.

Originally posted by Mic Assassin
1. Nice argument, jackass.
2. Well from what I've heard, he's completely self trained, so he'd likely know how to use things such as TK, but a force shield? I doubt it, so until you prove it, I have no reason to believe you, when it's pretty clear you're a PT fanboy, and haven't read PoD.

Originally posted by Gideon
By "melee combat" I assume you mean with a lightsaber. Because in a fist fight or on sheer physical prowess? Kas'im would get his ass turned inside out by Kar.

I used "melee combat" beause Vastor doesn't use a lightsaber.

Soul Stealer says:
Can you sock-check?
Bat country! =REX= says:
Who?
Soul Stealer says:
Mic Assassin
Bat country! =REX= says:
It will probably be blank
Bat country! =REX= says:
And yes, he's blank

Soul = Me

Though Mic Assassin/Nebaris/Sith'Ari/etc could be sock via another comp.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Mace could be Kar though. He was underestimating himself. Kas'im is strong enough in the Force to defend himself from anything that Kar can throw at him. From what I've seen, Kas'im is a fair bit better than Vastor in melee combat. Kas'im has FAR more experince fighting real opponents and actually had formal training. I just don't see Vastor being able to top him.

Really now? In the JUNGLE? Kar's raw power rivaled Yoda's own, is Kas'im THAT strong? And in melee combat? Kar's not a saber fighter, he's a monster that I doubt Kas'im can stand against there. By the same token, Vastor's seen just as much war. His experience isn't miniscule

Kar has the raw power advantage, but he lacks training. May I remind you that ROTS Anakin had much more raw power than Yoda, yet Yoda would tear him up in a fight.

Have you read the topic? He's self trained, and he had enough training with the Vibrosheilds to compete and as Mace thinks beat him, Mace being someone who has mastered multiple forms and created his own. Kas'im gets torn apart, for your argument to be correct you'd have to prove Kas'im>Mace.

No I wouldn't. Mace underestimated himself when he said that Vastor was better than him. Mace gained a huge surge of power in his time in the jungle and probably hadn't realized it yet, but he is good enough to defeat Kar.

Self training isn't that good when you have zero outside knowledge of the Force to help you. This is like saying that you could self-train yourself in motherboard production to a point above what people who are standing on the shoulders of giants can do.

You assume Kar has zero knowledge. He handled it rather well

I don't assume that Kar has zero knowledge. The thing is that he has no where near the knowledge or training that Kas'im has.

Which doesn't make much a difference. His raw power, especially in the jungle and possibly combat skills are above Kas'im's.

Again, this is like saying Anakin is above Yoda just because he has more raw power. He's not. The same is true for Kar and Kas'im.

Unlike Anakin, Kar can utilize his raw power to a heavy degree

But not to a degree high enough to overwhelm Kas'im. Kas'im's Force Defense is VERY high. He was able to shield himself from Darth Bane's attack, which is stronger than anything seen from Vastor, during that duel. Vastor doesn't know the techniques to make effective enough use of his raw power.