Originally posted by Jyppe
How so? They do that all the time. They even manage to hold down the Predators for implantation. And healing factor sure didn't save Superman for example.The Embryo is designed to inhibit the host without the host noticing it or anything. Healing factors remove bad things, the chestburster actually makes the host "stronger" in a way as it needs as healthy host as possible. Hell, they've even made their hosts stronger and faster when the hosts where threathened by something.
I'm actually with Jinzin here. He's quite right about this. Though I'm not sure why he consideres 4 & 5 more easier.. Maybe it gets too crowed or the Predator starts to kill the Aliens 😄
I did not know that they have held down preps for stuff they just seemed too stupid for that. I still think wolverine's healing factor would kill the embryo concidering the symptoms you stated are the same with the brood. The brood embryo makes there host stronger.
if superman was acctually implanted with an embryo then it's pis how could a face hugger get a hold of him and how would the embryo mature it has to cause some kind of damage.
Originally posted by jasofisc
I did not know that they have held down preps for stuff they just seemed too stupid for that. I still think wolverine's healing factor would kill the embryo concidering the symptoms you stated are the same with the brood. The brood embryo makes there host stronger.if superman was acctually implanted with an embryo then it's pis how could a face hugger get a hold of him and how would the embryo mature it has to cause some kind of damage.
Well, some comics do portray them as pure cannon fodder, but they are actually quite cunning and clever. It doesn't take that much brains to know how to reproduce.
The difference is, that The brood turns the HOST into a Brood. The host's mind is replaced by the brood's. And they could just weaken his healing factor by clawing him and biting him. If the healing factor had to heal his wounds the embryo would mature in time. The difference between Brood and Alien is that Brood acts more like an infection. It tries to replace the host. Alien embryo just acts like a parasite or a symbiot.
He was weakened during the time. The embryo does not cause any damage.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Well, some comics do portray them as pure cannon fodder, but they are actually quite cunning and clever. It doesn't take that much brains to know how to reproduce.The difference is, that The brood turns the HOST into a Brood. The host's mind is replaced by the brood's. And they could just weaken his healing factor by clawing him and biting him. If the healing factor had to heal his wounds the embryo would mature in time. The difference between Brood and Alien is that Brood acts more like an infection. It tries to replace the host. Alien embryo just acts like a parasite or a symbiot.
He was weakened during the time. The embryo does not cause any damage.
sups must have been severely weakened.
if it acts like a parasite the embryo is dying if like a symbiot wolverine claws it out. Also the brood thing is an embryo the way it works is differnet after that.
no damage not even sucking out nutrinans or proteins? If wolverine had a tape worm I almost could swear that wolverine's healing factor would kill it.
Originally posted by jasofisc
sups must have been severely weakened.if it acts like a parasite the embryo is dying if like a symbiot wolverine claws it out. Also the brood thing is an embryo the way it works is differnet after that.
no damage not even sucking out nutrinans or proteins? If wolverine had a tape worm I almost could swear that wolverine's healing factor would kill it.
Wolverine can't claw it out if he's Goo'ed on the wall or held down by Aliens. There's a difference between Alien embryo & Brood Embryo. Simple.
Since we have no evidences that Wolverine's healing factor would kill it, we can't presume so. How would Wolverine's healing factor actually kill it?`
besides, The Embryo is very good at adapting as are the adult Aliens.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Wolverine can't claw it out if he's Goo'ed on the wall or held down by Aliens. There's a difference between Alien embryo & Brood Embryo. Simple.Since we have no evidences that Wolverine's healing factor would kill it, we can't presume so. How would Wolverine's healing factor actually kill it?`
besides, The Embryo is very good at adapting as are the adult Aliens.
the evidence is that wolverine has killed another emryo that is symbotic in the past.
So in every battle if the guy hasn't fought someone exactly like the other guy their power won't work on them. Like say since zantana hasn't fought anybody exactly like wolverine then we can presume that her powers won't work on him?
The differences are small between the two. In one case it's and embryo and in the next it's still an embryo. What happens after that I know is different but the way his healing factor will work is not. the healing factor has never really been explained very well in my opionion so I don't know how it would kill that thing but I don't know how it killed the brood one either.
Wolverine has got out of worse then goo before. in the first arc of X-men (not uncanny) wolverine was straped into four inch metal braces on both his hands and feat and he was able to break out of it. I don't know if he would be able to break though the goo or not but I do know he should be able to manuver enough to cut him self free.
You might have a point with the adapting of the aliens but wolverine is also adaptable and they are in more of a wolverine environment where he would just guraila attack these things
I think people are not seeing this with the enviroment and how it would help wolverine. Wolverine would be able to lauch multiple attacks on these things killing the adults first then taking out the face hugers one portion at a time untill (a very long time form whent he battle started) he would kill them all
the evidence is that wolverine has killed another emryo that is symbotic in the past.
But there is a one major difference between those 2. Brood embryo TAKES OVER the host, it attacks the HOST and it's nervous system. IT DOES ALL THIS ACTIVATELY, Alien embryo is a passive untill it's birth, and then it's too late for Wolverine's healing factor to do anything as the chest burster emerges from his stomach.
And a tactic that would work is that the Adult Aliens weaken Wolverine and his healing factor wont be concentrating on the embryo, but healing the wounds. Same thing happened with Mimic & Brood embryo. It took a mere punch from classic Thing to make the embryo take over.
And, Wolverine was nearly complitely transformed into the Brood before his healing factor got rid of it.
Wolverine has got out of worse then goo before. in the first arc of X-men (not uncanny) wolverine was straped into four inch metal braces on both his hands and feat and he was able to break out of it. I don't know if he would be able to break though the goo or not but I do know he should be able to manuver enough to cut him self free.
Except that this goo will transform into durable metal like substance after a while. And he's being guarded by Aliens during the whole time.
I think people are not seeing this with the enviroment and how it would help wolverine. Wolverine would be able to lauch multiple attacks on these things killing the adults first then taking out the face hugers one portion at a time untill (a very long time form whent he battle started) he would kill them all
Aliens sense via many VERY sensitive senses. They also use pheromons like wolverine, but they also use Daredevil like radars and such. You're not going to suprise attack an Alien. + If we go by their mid - high showings They're AT LEAST fast as Wolverine and stronger than he is. They also have a healing factor which enables them to shut down cuts nearly instantly, but it doesn't work really if a piece is missing, hence armor piercing caseless High explosive rounds work pretty well.
Originally posted by Jyppe
But there is a one major difference between those 2. Brood embryo TAKES OVER the host, it attacks the HOST and it's nervous system. IT DOES ALL THIS ACTIVATELY, Alien embryo is a passive untill it's birth, and then it's too late for Wolverine's healing factor to do anything as the chest burster emerges from his stomach.And a tactic that would work is that the Adult Aliens weaken Wolverine and his healing factor wont be concentrating on the embryo, but healing the wounds. Same thing happened with Mimic & Brood embryo. It took a mere punch from classic Thing to make the embryo take over.
And, Wolverine was nearly complitely transformed into the Brood before his healing factor got rid of it.
Except that this goo will transform into durable metal like substance after a while. And he's being guarded by Aliens during the whole time.
Aliens sense via many VERY sensitive senses. They also use pheromons like wolverine, but they also use Daredevil like radars and such. You're not going to suprise attack an Alien. + If we go by their mid - high showings They're AT LEAST fast as Wolverine and stronger than he is. They also have a healing factor which enables them to shut down cuts nearly instantly, but it doesn't work really if a piece is missing, hence armor piercing caseless High explosive rounds work pretty well.
I agree that that is one major difference between the two. However I still hold that wolverine's healing factor killing an embryo in one instance can be used for his healing factor killing another embryo. Also his healing factor will recognize the embryo as a thing in his body that should be there and will act accordanly. Also mimic only had half of wolverine's healing powers. The chest burster by nature will try to burst out the chest and then it will splatter it's self against his chest.
Wolverine has got out of metal confinements before without even using his claws. And i'm not even arguing that what i'm arguing is that wolverine will be able to slip his hand under the goo then pop his claws though it untill he's free.
Wolverine is going to take out six aliens no prob, and there are diffently more times then naught an alien has been snuck up on and killed. Wolverine has taken out thousands of ninjas (or hundereds I can't remember what the scan said or what it implied) six normal aliens is not going to be all that tuff. This level is not going to stop wolverine also if he kills the adult aliens then all he has to do is stay away from the face huggers then they are a non-factor