Celestials vs Phoenix Force

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Manifestations of the Phoenix Force can destroy universes. If we're talking the sum of the Phoenix Force against the handful of Celestials we know about, then definitely the Phoenix Force.

The Celestials are unproven.

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Celestials are very ommipotent. It would be nice to see what happens if the Force encounters Celestials.

Thanks for the post

Originally posted by guy222
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Celestials are very ommipotent. It would be nice to see what happens if the Force encounters Celestials.

Thanks for the post

There are levels of infinity. The Celestials are somewhere between Galactus and the abstracts in power. They are nowhere near omnipotent. In comparison to a mutant they might be. But in the scheme of things, when all powers are taken into consideration, going by their on panel showings they really arent.

Single Celestials have been shown to be able to throw planets from their orbits and initiate global scale changes. Together they are a formiddable force. We know of nearly a dozen of them.

In a no holds barred match the full Phoenix Force would stomp them.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
There are levels of infinity. The Celestials are somewhere between Galactus and the abstracts in power. They are nowhere near omnipotent. In comparison to a mutant they might be. But in the scheme of things, when all powers are taken into consideration, going by their on panel showings they really arent.

Single Celestials have been shown to be able to throw planets from their orbits and initiate global scale changes. Together they are a formiddable force. We know of nearly a dozen of them.

In a no holds barred match the full Phoenix Force would stomp them.

Thanks, GS

Celestials make Uatu and Galactus cower

There are so many Celestials 🙂

Originally posted by guy222
Thanks, GS

Celestials make Uatu and Galactus cower

There are so many Celestials 🙂

Phoenix is stated to be a threat that makes Galactus pale into insignificance. Uatu considered Phoenix to be a Force second only to the supreme being 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix is stated to be a threat that makes Galactus pale into insignificance. Uatu considered Phoenix to be a Force second only to the supreme being 🙂

I always believed PF>>Galactus. New info now seems Celestials>>>Galactus 🙂

See, my meager knowledge isn't too bad

Originally posted by guy222
I always believed PF>>Galactus. New info now seems Celestials>>>Galactus 🙂

See, my meager knowledge isn't too bad

Based on Galactus' fear of the Dreaming Celestial in the recent Eternals mini? 😕

Not conclusive evidence, although i do actually believe the top Celestials to be beyond Galactus.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Based on Galactus' fear of the Dreaming Celestial in the recent Eternals mini? 😕

Not conclusive evidence, although i do actually believe the top Celestials to be beyond Galactus.

Tiamut.

I agree

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Uatu considered Phoenix to be a Force second only to the supreme being 🙂

Despite LT both being between them in terms of power?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Despite LT both being between them in terms of power?

By presentation and word of mouth not on panel display. 😉

My point was merely to show Phoenixes superiority to the Celestials. Lets not turn this into an LT Vs Phoenix debate. 😬

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
By presentation and word of mouth not on panel display. 😉

My point was merely to show Phoenixes superiority to the Celestials. Lets not turn this into an LT Vs Phoenix debate. 😬

I just like accuracy (LT beat the IG I call that proof of its power)

Anyway Pheonix probably does well in this fight.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I just like accuracy (and LT beat the IG anyway)

LT depowered an inanimate object. He talked Adam out of fighting him with the IG by guilt tripping him about the destruction it would cause his reality and THEN he stopped it from working.

It was stated in the same issue LT needed to determine how his power would fare against the IG's. If LT doesnt know, NOONE can speak for him and say LT was more powerful.

Once Adam had submitted LTs ruling was applied. In the same way a mechanic with a wrench can stop a tank from working when its stationary and not being pitted against him, but lets see how that mechanic would fare against the tank when its manned.

See my point?

I like accuracy to. 😉

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Anyway Pheonix probably does well in this fight.

Agreed.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
LT depowered an inanimate object. He talked Adam out of fighting him with the IG by guilt tripping him about the destruction it would cause his reality and THEN he stopped it from working.

It was stated in the same issue LT needed to determine how his power would fare against the IG's. If LT doesnt know, NOONE can speak for him and say LT was more powerful.

Once Adam had submitted LTs ruling was applied. In the same way a mechanic with a wrench can stop a tank from working when its stationary and not being pitted against him, but lets see how that mechanic would fare against the tank when its manned.

See my point?

I like accuracy to. 😉

Agreed.

Living Tribunal and Phoenix Force. Very good to discuss. Celestials also 🙂

Originally posted by guy222
Living Tribunal and Phoenix Force. Very good to discuss. Celestials also 🙂

Celestials are many.

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Celestials are many.

Sidious, yes they are

Originally posted by Utrigita
the greatest problem the phoinix force would face is that technically the celestials cannot die so ... don't know gonna be a tough battle

Very good point.

Originally posted by guy222
Very good point.

PF can never die. Wait, neither can Celestials

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
PF can never die. Wait, neither can Celestials

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Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
PF can never die. Wait, neither can Celestials

I suppose technically they can. Thanos destroyed one in The End.

Celestials can very well die. Thanos killed one and i believe so did invisible woman(dont remember well).

Originally posted by Cosmic Flame
I suppose technically they can. Thanos destroyed one in The End.

Celestials have returned