darkseid vs onslaught

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
You forget that Onslaught was a Franklin AND X-Man combined. Both of which are insanely powerful yet held back by certain clauses he does not have (mostly inexperience and burning out).

And please refrain from mentioning jobbing in a Darkseid topic.

I mean damn, Thor drove back Galactus and Warlock beat Mephisto in his realm. Doesn't make them any less powerful.

Oh and I'll find that X scan in a sec.

Hell, now that I think about it, Black Panther has a winning record against Mephisto.

Thor drove a WEAK galactus away and it's been stated that Adam was inadvertently feeding on the souls in Mephistos realm to amp him.

Amp him to omnipotence. Wonderful.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
You forget that Onslaught was a Franklin AND X-Man combined. Both of which are insanely powerful yet held back by certain clauses he does not have (mostly inexperience and burning out).

And please refrain from mentioning jobbing in a Darkseid topic.

I mean damn, Thor drove back Galactus and Warlock beat Mephisto in his realm. Doesn't make them any less powerful.

Oh and I'll find that X scan in a sec.

Hell, now that I think about it, Black Panther has a winning record against Mephisto.

Galactus was incredibly weakened.
Galactus ran into Ego, they battled.
Galactus was incredbly weakened and he started to battle Ego.
Thor cheapshotted him. Galactus threw him, and it was going to kill him.
Ego transported Thor to his planet.
Thor used his most powerful attack, and yet again cheapshotted him.

So while he was fighting Ego, Thor cheapshotted him... twice.

Originally posted by xmeat
nuff said?

Onslaught

Maybe, the Celestials will come and help Frankie 🙂

Onslaught may have POTENTIALLY equaled the combined power of X-Man and Franklin, but he never really demonstrated that level of mastery of their powers. I'm all for giving credit where it's due, but speculating that Onslaught was capable of everything that the two of them combined would be is a bit much. Anyway, Onslaught MIGHT be able to pull a win or two if DS doesn't erase him via OE, but any fight in which he uses it Onslaught goes down. Even without the OE, he should still pull at least 8/10.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Onslaught may have POTENTIALLY equaled the combined power of X-Man and Franklin, but he never really demonstrated that level of mastery of their powers. I'm all for giving credit where it's due, but speculating that Onslaught was capable of everything that the two of them combined would be is a bit much. Anyway, Onslaught MIGHT be able to pull a win or two if DS doesn't erase him via OE, but any fight in which he uses it Onslaught goes down. Even without the OE, he should still pull at least 8/10.

Originally posted by Kallark-Kent
To DC, yes. 🙂

Originally posted by xmeat
😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 BS

Originally posted by darthgoober
Onslaught may have POTENTIALLY equaled the combined power of X-Man and Franklin, but he never really demonstrated that level of mastery of their powers. I'm all for giving credit where it's due, but speculating that Onslaught was capable of everything that the two of them combined would be is a bit much. Anyway, Onslaught MIGHT be able to pull a win or two if DS doesn't erase him via OE, but any fight in which he uses it Onslaught goes down. Even without the OE, he should still pull at least 8/10.

Well let's see what would have happened if Marvel wrote him with the fact that you have two of the most knowledgeable mutant minds on the Earth controlling a Celestial and a Phoenix equal while keeping in mind that the Onslaught had been studying how to use the Celestial for a long time.

Onslaught: Bow to me
Cap: You're going down soldier
Onslaught: *blinks*
Everyone dies, Onslaught wins, Marvel goes even more bankrupt or brings in LT to clean everything up, everyone complains about how corny the story was and how you can't create a villian powerful enough to clean out all your A-Listers and have it retconned, Joey Stacks grows even more weary of today's comic book fan.

And how on God's earth does Darkseid beat Onslaught without the OE?

Here's a hint

He doesn't.

ever

And I WILL find this comic that says Xavier is a universal necessity

dammit.

BTW weak or not a God blast should be a joke to Galan

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
BTW weak or not a God blast should be a joke to Galan

Which is what I'm saying about Onslaught (the entire arc was PIS if you ask me). We know what Franky's capable of, we know X studied and learned about his powers as he was becoming his friend, and we know that if X studies your power he's going to master it and teach you to master it.

And we know what Franklin is capable of FARRRRR exceeds Darksy forget the fact that you have the added powers of an uninhibited X-Man, Chuck, and Mags (though the last two might seem irrelevant Chuck's power is what puts X-Man's even more over the top then it already is).

And now that I remember the arc correctly I do recall Onslaught being held back by Chuck, which is probably why everyone was allowed to even exist.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Which is what I'm saying about Onslaught (the entire arc was PIS if you ask me). We know what Franky's capable of, we know X studied and learned about his powers as he was becoming his friend, and we know that if X studies your power he's going to master it and teach you to master it.

And we know what Franklin is capable of FARRRRR exceeds Darksy forget the fact that you have the added powers of an uninhibited X-Man, Chuck, and Mags (though the last two might seem irrelevant Chuck's power is what puts X-Man's even more over the top then it already is).

And now that I remember the arc correctly I do recall Onslaught being held back by Chuck, which is probably why everyone was allowed to even exist.

He wasn't able to fully utilize their powers, and he will never be able to.
Don't give him powers, or call that pis. He couldn't do it, and there is nothing to show he could.
His power was what it was, and he doesn't need hypothical powers too.

It wasn't pis, and Onslaught didn't have an upper limit.

Where is it said that he was unable to use the powers? Is it something you assumed, or something that was stated?

Because as far as I can tell Full Powered Onslaught =

X, Franky, Man, Mags

which to me means he has access to the powers of

X, Franky, Man, Mags

And the only PIS in this topic

is the thought of Darkseid beating a Full Powered Onslaught.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Where is it said that he was unable to use the powers?

It's also pretty funny to say someone who has absorbed someone's powers can't use said persons powers.

And the only PIS in this topic

is the thought of Darkseid beating a Full Powered Onslaught.

He wasn't more powerful than he was shown.
He was just a disapointing villian.
Nothing more, nothing less.

He was better as he was first shown.

hmmmm sounds more like fan speculation ESPECIALLY considering

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Darkseid beating a full powered Onslaught? That's a laugh out loud moment

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
hmmmm sounds more like fan speculation ESPECIALLY considering

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Darkseid beating a full powered Onslaught? That's a laugh out loud moment

Don't you get it? There is no full powered Onslaught! There is a fan powered Onslaught, but there is no comic Onslaught higher than what he was.
And that Onslaught gets beat.

If your going to say there was a higher form of Onslaught, then by all means, give me actual proof. So far, you have given me nothing but speculations.

Nothing but speculations? I've shown you Onslaught being stated as ADDING FRANKLIN RICHARDS POWERS TO HIS OWN.

well ima get chewed out by some but im deffintly going darkside on this guys

Ooo look it's him using Nate's powers too

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"a nigh omnipotent creature"

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and please note it's an editor's comment unlike Darkseid's character perspective comment