darkseid vs onslaught

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
What's funny is you say crack O-slaughts armor like it even means something (hell the scene after the Thor one he laughs it off and is glad he took X out of him).

And you also ignore that he has all the powers of Franklin Richards and X-Man in favor of posting random acts that aren't even straining him.

And once again, X is relevant enough to override the Existance erasure.

Oh and stop making up facts

"he made a forcefield so they wouldn't interfere with his concentration"

lol

"after he created the sun he started to run out of power"

more like Franklin Richards and X-Man started to FIGHT BACK and REGAIN CONTROL (which isn't happening during this topic)

You get a B- for at least trying to have a basis tho.

Oh and he never lost energy. This is neither said nor implied. I have the comic right in my face. The only thing that happened was Franklin stopped being so angsty and combined his with Nate's will to fight back and take back control. Which isn't happening for this topic's sake.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Oh and stop making up facts

"he made a forcefield so they wouldn't interfere with his concentration"

lol

"after he created the sun he started to run out of power"

more like Franklin Richards and X-Man started to FIGHT BACK and REGAIN CONTROL (which isn't happening during this topic)

You get a B- for at least trying to have a basis tho.

Yeah because we all know Doom's a telepath of the first order and is able to determine how much power Onslaught needs to use especially considered how his plan worked to a T.

Oh wait, Doom isn't a telepath and his plan failed miserably as shown by Richards saying we've been fools this whole time (which implies Onslaught allowed his armor to be cracked).

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Yeah because we all know Doom's a telepath of the first order and is able to determine how much power Onslaught needs to use especially considered how his plan worked to a T.

Oh wait, Doom isn't a telepath and his plan failed miserably as shown by Richards saying we've been fools this whole time (which implies Onslaught allowed his armor to be cracked).

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Pure boredom and the fact that nobody's on live right now has caused me to respond to this riot of an argument.

1.) If you actually read the comic it said he would but instead ponders why they continue to fight when they know he's wayyyy out of their league.

And please note that statements like this are only said after Frank.

Also, to do this, wouldn't Onslaught have to reshape Eternity in his image? Ya...
And thus why, that shouldn't be taken literly.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
2.) Name an instance where a Watcher is wrong on a subject like this. Knowing you, you'd probably say something stupid like the Watcher was wrong on *insert instance* because NO F34TS LOLOLOLOLOL.

Those are just for starters, I'll think of some more in which he was wrong.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
3.) You can pull all the knowledge out of your known relatives head and I'd still know more about Strange then you.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
4.) The only really bad writing in the Onslaught Saga is the Juggs incident.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
5.) The only one bullying their opinion would be the one arguing with character and Watcher statements of a certain character with such groundbreaking arguments as "No feats" and with absolutely no basis to back his claims (ie you).

Onslaught has shown nothing to be put at Frank's full potential (unless Frank's potential isn't as high as it was made out to be...), adn Watcher saying something isn't going to help.
"No feats", is actually quite accpetable in a case like this actually, because, he has had "No feats".

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
6.) Who said anything about me even liking the Onslaught saga? Remove the mouth from Darky's d and try again.

I have no idea what you said on the second sentence...
But if it is what I think it is, I don't even like Darkseid...

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
7.) What the hell is "pawning my ass"? Sounds incredibly suspect to me.

I've never once said Darkseid couldn't break the shell, just that once he does break the shell he's going to get stomped even worse then he was already getting it as he doesn't possess the power to contain him.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
I've never once said Darkseid couldn't break the shell, just that once he does break the shell he's going to get stomped even worse then he was already getting it as he doesn't possess the power to contain him.

Originally posted by bigbran
OK, but what you shown me, he didn't say that.
Also, before we continue, do you think Onslaught is above Galactus?

Also, to do this, wouldn't Onslaught have to reshape Eternity in his image? Ya...
And thus why, that shouldn't be taken literly.

Like when Uatu said he was as powerful as Galactus?
Funny because both Quaser and Surfer have owned Watchers.
Surfer owned Unilord, and Quaser owned Aron the Rogue, and last I check, Uatu wasn't the most powerful.
So, if he can't get his own power right...

Those are just for starters, I'll think of some more in which he was wrong.

😐 Really... well, you don't know how much knowledge I have, and I don't know how much you have, but according to your ego, you know more than I ever will?
I suspect that you have every Doctor Strange comic ever in print, to go along with your statement?

😐

Ha!
Mine was that Onslaught didn't show Frank's full potential, you said he did.
I said he has no feats (he doesn't).
You have yet to show me the feats in which he had them, other than a Watcher statement.

Onslaught has shown nothing to be put at Frank's full potential (unless Frank's potential isn't as high as it was made out to be...), adn Watcher saying something isn't going to help.
"No feats", is actually quite accpetable in a case like this actually, because, he has had "No feats".

Well, from the way you make Onslaught out to be...

I have no idea what you said on the second sentence...
But if it is what I think it is, I don't even like Darkseid...

I'm talking about your incredible ego.

1.) Yes Onslaught is above Galactus as

you have a Celestial combined with the power of a Dark Phoenix in one being.

2.) Wanda did it, I see no reason as to why a mutant who's always been considered much higher on the food chain (Franky baby) couldn't.

3.) Jobbing. Much like Superman handling Darkseid, Thor handling Thanos, Warlock knocking back Omega, Bone claw Wolverine damaging IG Thanos and Thor giving him a fight, etc.

4.) Who was the one that stated I don't even know who Strange is (which if you own every one of his comics like I do you'd know is Far Far Far below Celestials and Dark Phoenixes)?

5.) I've provided character and Watcher references saying he has both the FULL combined might of X-Man (which I've shown is equal to Dark Phoenix) and Franklin (which speaks for itself).

You've provided me with the comedy that is no feats which would be acceptable if Onslaught was merely described as a reality bender himself and not a reality bender because he has absorbed all of Frank (and actually struggled to do the things he did which he never showed any signs of), who has feats that put him way out of Darky's league, and X-Man's powers.

6.) The way I've made Onslaught out to be? You mean more like what's said in the comic.

7.) Ego? Sounds more like you're insecure with your arguments as the only arrogant comment I've made is the Strange one.

Please explain it to me the Heroes easily handled Onslaught energy form but Darkseid can't??

You call giving your life easily handling Onslaught? (well they were saved by deus ex Frank)

There's a laugh for you.

"Close to Surfer"

You call someone who thought Thor was a joke and handled him as such "Close to Surfer"

Wow. *shakes head*

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
1.) Yes Onslaught is above Galactus as you have a Celestial combined with the power of a Dark Phoenix in one being.

Okay give me one reason why a FP Frank combined with a FP Nate (who's equal to Dark Phoenix) couldn't beat Galan?

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
1.) Yes Onslaught is above Galactus as

you have a Celestial combined with the power of a Dark Phoenix in one being.

But in comics... he gets beat by Hulk, armor blown through by Thor, then no, he isn't anywhere near Galactus!
But at the thought of comic Onslaught being above Galactus...
😆

Also, if Onslaught was more than a Celestial, then why was Hulk able to smash his armor (I don't care if Onslaught planned it or not, it got smashed). Hulk would NEVER, EVER see the day that he was able to smash a Celestial's skin.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
2.) Wanda did it, I see no reason as to why a mutant who's always been considered much higher on the food chain (Franky baby) couldn't.

Also, why your statement also holds no grounds is because:

You say in your own arguements that Frank = Celestial right?
Well, Eternity created the Celestials out of just meditating.

No, Frank isn't recreating the universe.

Wow, I just realize how this will go nowhere, since you think Onslaught is above Eternity (if he is more powerful than Wanda was, he is more powerful than Eternity) and Galactus... ugg, this board is getting redicules to a point of retarded.
Everyday, some character gets upgraded.
First Hulk. Then Wolverine. Then Phoenix. Then blah, blah, blah... Apocalypse. Then now Onslaught.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
3.) Jobbing. Much like Superman handling Darkseid, Thor handling Thanos, Warlock knocking back Omega, Bone claw Wolverine damaging IG Thanos and Thor giving him a fight, etc.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
4.) Who was the one that stated I don't even know who Strange is (which if you own every one of his comics like I do you'd know is Far Far Far below Celestials and Dark Phoenixes)?

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
5.) I've provided character and Watcher references saying he has both the FULL combined might of X-Men (which I've shown is equal to Dark Phoenix) and Franklin (which speaks for itself).

You also haven't shown me that Nate is equal to Dark Phoenix anyway. Now I may know it, but you yourself haven't provided the proof (like you claim).

Also, his power is "supposed" to rival her's.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
You've provided me with the comedy that is no feats which would be acceptable if Onslaught was merely described as a reality bender himself and not a reality bender because he has absorbed all of Frank, who has feats that put him way out of Darky's league, and X-Man's powers.

Guess what one is easier?

Guess what, nobody has yet to prove that he was able to use the full extent of Frank's powers either.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
6.) The way I've made Onslaught out to be? You mean more like what's said in the comic.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
7.) Ego? Sounds more like you're insecure with your arguments as the only arrogant comment I've made is the Strange one.

It's ego all right.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
1.) Yes Onslaught is above Galactus as you have a Celestial combined with the power of a Dark Phoenix in one being.

hysterical

We don't even no how powerful Franklin is on the Celestial scale. Besides do you have any idea what a Celestial is compared to Galactus? (nothing btw)

Dark Pheonix is not part of Onslaught

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
hysterical

We don't even no how powerful Franklin is on the Celestial scale. Besides do you have any idea what a Celestial is compared to Galactus? (nothing btw)

Dark Pheonix is not part of Onslaught

He seems to think that Nate Grey would exactly equal DP, and that this would mean that DP is actually in him... I don't know, just sounds like shit to me either way.

Originally posted by bigbran
I don't know about nothing, but I do think Galactus is quite above them.

I was exagerating for effect but if full-power Galactus = Eternity then Celestials don't have much of a chance.

Originally posted by bigbran

He seems to think that Nate Grey would exactly equal DP, and that this would mean that DP is actually in him... I don't know, just sounds like shit to me either way.

He claims to have proof. (Might be interesting to see how he proves that X-Man = Dark Pheonix)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I was exagerating for effect but if full-power Galactus = Eternity then Celestials don't have much of a chance.

He claims to have proof. (Might be interesting to see how he proves that X-Man = Dark Pheonix)

I think their was a bio that said it... but that is all.
Or there might be a scan in which someone said he rivals DP (I think their was), but it really doesn't matter when his feats disprove it (losing to a Thanos clone).
Something that has not been learned yet.

YEah, where is all this Nate>DP wank coming from... I know that there were some issues somewhere where Moira and prof X speculated about that, but that is bs.

I don't recall Nate ever consuming a star, and DP did. Also do to the retcon DP is the actual Phoenix Force itself. Nate is not a pimple on DP's ass.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Yes he allowed but if Hulk was able to break it then sure can Darkseid.
Anyway Darkseid beats Onslaught case closed.

Originally posted by xmeat
supes was able to beat darkseid so hulk can as well cased closed.

Ermm....

Do I need to list the street levellers that have beaten Hulk? We don't wanna go that route.