The difference is, Link relies on casting spells and drinking potions etc. to do anything, whereas the force naturally gives Mace his abilities, such as reflexes, precognition etc. I highly doubt that Link's reflexes are better than Mace's jedi reflexes for instance, so I'm guessing Mace would be able to crush him before Link could do anything.
Uh, why? It's not like Mace throws crushes out any time of the day, and he doesn't do it instantly either. Even if he did in this case, why would his reaction time be so much faster than Link's? And Mace at least has to direct the crush with his hand, stretch it out, and then crush them, Link can just activate his... And he to has fast reflexes and is fast to. Link would easily pull it off, it's not like he's gonna stand there like a retard while Mace pulls one of his attacks, and this is not the first time Link faces someone with such abilities, he's met far worse, someone who can crush a whole tower instantly while losing his power and unconscious...
Also, if Link dies, he is revived by fairies....
Originally posted by Mic Assassin
Well Ok, I'm convinced that his magic is good enough to stand up to Mace and destroy him, but I'm still questioning the whole instant thing. Where's the proof for that? Is it a gameplay feature? Does it require any kind of hand motion? Does he need to equip something? Go into details.
The Magic armor shows no such things, it just activates with a thought.
Nayrus love is a hand gesture, but every time he does it the whole world around him freezes. Might be gameplay, might be magic, I can't really tell.
Magic armour (2), is a suit, so I guess he has to put that on, if he hasn't already gotten it equipped. So it depends....
Originally posted by kamikz
Uh, why? It's not like Mace throws crushes out any time of the day, and he doesn't do it instantly either. Even if he did in this case, why would his reaction time be so much faster than Link's? And Mace at least has to direct the crush with his hand, stretch it out, and then crush them, Link can just activate his... And he to has fast reflexes and is fast to. Link would easily pull it off, it's not like he's gonna stand there like a retard while Mace pulls one of his attacks, and this is not the first time Link faces someone with such abilities, he's met far worse, someone who can crush a whole tower instantly while losing his power and unconscious...
Also, if Link dies, he is revived by fairies....
True, plus after casting Nayru's Love, he can drink Grandma's soup, rare Chu Jelly, or Great Fairy tears, which Doubles his power, and Don't Forget Chateau Romanni!
Also Link Has a slew of spells in Zelda 2 that require no items, but the NES graphics don't show exactly what he has to do for them.
Is there proof for that? Does he have reflexes on the level of jedi reflexes? Is he as impulsive as Mace is? And what's this whole "if Link dies, he is revived by fairies" thing about? Is it a gameplay mechanic? Does it only work after casting a spell, or drinking a potion, or equiping some kind of armor? 'Cause if there's proof that he'd activate magic quicker than Mace could apply a force crush on him, or can always rise back to life, I'll concede.
Originally posted by Mic Assassin
Is there proof for that? Does he have reflexes on the level of jedi reflexes? Is he as impulsive as Mace is? And what's this whole "if Link dies, he is revived by fairies" thing about? Is it a gameplay mechanic? Does it only work after casting a spell, or drinking a potion, or equiping some kind of armor? 'Cause if there's proof that he'd activate magic quicker than Mace could apply a force crush on him, or can always rise back to life, I'll concede.
I saw Grievous turning around, igniting all his lightsabers and stare at Mace, before Mace reaches out, and crushes his chest. But Link has already faced opponents with much better magics and skills....
Link has fairies in bottles stocked in his equipment. When he dies they revive him, no casting or anything, he doesn't have to do anything, they just revive him.
And their powers are canon, they come from the Great Faries, which are stated by Tatl in MM have the power to wipe out armies instantly... (Or similair. Very strong anyway)
But I don't see why Link wouldn't react, Mace might have better reflexes and better normal speed, but they still act under the same second, Link's armor takes basically no time to activate...
I saw Grievous turning around, igniting all his lightsabers and stare at Mace, before Mace reaches out, and crushes his chest.
I meant the hand motion, and still, he had just fallen out of his ship, the fact is, he can still perform the action at such a speed that it really doesn't matter if it's instant or not; all that matters is who decides to activate their powers first.
But Link has already faced opponents with much better magics and skills....
'Cause he was more powerful, or for plot neccessity?
Link has fairies in bottles stocked in his equipment. When he dies they revive him, no casting or anything, he doesn't have to do anything, they just revive him.
How long does it take? Are the fairies powerful? Couldn't Mace just destroy the fairies before they revive Link? And really, a KO should be as valis as a kill in this kind of match. I'm going with Mace.
Well then it is just chance who gets it first, we can't decide on that then. There is still much more speaking for Link, his is instant, Mace is in a movement of his hand, and usage of the force. Link can also performe magics, like burning Mace to crisps, then Mace crushes Link and Link fries Mace, but Link gets revived....
It's not like Mace is going to know that Link is being revived, you make it out like Mace knows exactly what his opponent can do. The fary just flies out from his bottle and Link gets revived, he can stock up to 6 in only one game, if he has all his bottles, he will have around.... 30.
Also, there are still things that make me believe Link will lose from that attack alone, even without his invulnerability...
Can turn into the Fierce Diety, which is what it sounds like. A godlike being that is...
Can wish Mace dead with the triforce.
Four swords, turn Link into four Link's........................
Stone Mask, turns Link into the terrain basically, like if Mace was looking he would only see the ground. He wouldn't know what to hit, and it is not as basic as invisibility...
The rings from the oracle games, which halves the damage done by 1/4, plus the silver heart which decreases damage by 1/2, that will not be a very huge amount of damage on him... That means, that a killing attack such as the crush, would only cause 1/8 of it's normal damage on Link...