Most offensive comic characters names!

Originally posted by inamilist
If you really believe any of that, name your child Adolf 😛

Different thing, Adolf is a direct association to Hitler while Holocaust is just a general word used for damage done by an inferno

Originally posted by quickshot
Different thing, Adolf is a direct association to Hitler while Holocaust is just a general word used for damage done by an inferno

no

both are words

words are symbols for meaning

the meaning each word is given is based upon an individuals own experience with that word

the more frequent and recent meanings will be activated when you hear it (read it)

so, becuase the society we are in uses words such as "adolf" or "holocaust" to describe something, that is what will be activated when the word is experienced.

Think of the word f-a-g. (its weird they would censor that, but not other swears I have written before)

I can't believe no one has said anything about Captain Nazi yet 🤨

Originally posted by inamilist
no

both are words

words are symbols for meaning

the meaning each word is given is based upon an individuals own experience with that word

the more frequent and recent meanings will be activated when you hear it (read it)

so, becuase the society we are in uses words such as "adolf" or "holocaust" to describe something, that is what will be activated when the word is experienced.

Think of the word f-a-g. (its weird they would censor that, but not other swears I have written before)

Exactly

🙂

By Crom!

Originally posted by Grimm22
I can't believe no one has said anything about Captain Nazi yet 🤨

Wow, you're right about that one. That really should have been the first one people thought of. Nova's real name has nothing on that.

What about Surrender Monkey? he's french, he's a monkey, he wears a stripey top and a beret.

😐

Wasp

Johnny Canuck 🙂

There was a comic I read quite a while ago, where an aspiring heroes name was "The Brother". Ironically enough, he was a black character.

I'm not black, but I still found it to be an offensive name.

Originally posted by inamilist
If you really believe any of that, name your child Adolf 😛

What an assinine comment. Nothing I said has been the least bit racist.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
You just don't get it.

The meaning of the word "Holocaust" has changed. That's a fact and it's not up for debate.

No it's not up for debate. Read a dictionary. There's the word "holocaust" and the series of events that took place during ww2 known as "the holocaust". Completely different.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
A language is a living thing. Sometimes new words are born, and sometimes old words die. And sometimes the meaning of a word changes.

True. But not in this case.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
For example : Holocaust. Ask 100 people what they are thinking of when you mention the word holocaust, and almost everybody will say something about WW II.

Or, use it in a sentence with some point of reference and see that it is a word with a defined meaning.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Type in holocaust in Google, and see what you find : WW II.

Type in "the" in google. What's your point? Because the word references an event the word becomes that event?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Being uneducated has nothing to do with it.

Actually, it does. By educated I don't necessarily mean formally. One can educate themselves in such matters.

Originally posted by inamilist
words are symbols for meaning

No, words are not symbols for meanings. Words actually define or describe meanings. Whether someone gives "particular" meaning to that word is moot so long as that word retains it's identity autonomous of that meaning.

[QUOTE=8165327]Originally posted by inamilist
"the meaning each word is given is based upon an individuals own experience with that word"

No, language and words are based upon a collective interpretation, not an individual interpretation.

Originally posted by inamilist
so, becuase the society we are in uses words such as "adolf" or "holocaust" to describe something, that is what will be activated when the word is experienced.

Only by those who don't know the meaning of the word. There is a difference between "the holocaust" and "a holocaust". Sorry, but that's just the way it is. And names and words are different.

Originally posted by inamilist
Think of the word f-a-g. (its weird they would censor that, but not other swears I have written before)

You've worked against your own point. Sucking on a f*g in britain is far different than sucking on a f*g in north america. Also, the word f*g is a noun. The word holocaust is not a noun. It only becomes a noun (or thing) when you call it "the holocaust".

Captain Nazi

Black Lightning and I think that is it.

Whizzer offends me. Why not Unrinater, Leaker or Pisser? 🤨

😛

Originally posted by KharmaDog
What an assinine comment. Nothing I said has been the least bit racist.

When did he mention racism? 😕
Your arguing that the minority of people accosiate a word with WWII. This, instead of a word, is a name. Same concept. Your quoted point is redundant and self-defeating

Originally posted by KharmaDog
No it's not up for debate. Read a dictionary. There's the word "holocaust" and the series of events that took place during ww2 known as "the holocaust". Completely different.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Or, use it in a sentence with some point of reference and see that it is a word with a defined meaning.

The name 'Holocaust' has no point of reference or context. It's a name. And yet, you openly admit that people could associate the word with the event if there is no context.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Type in "the" in google. What's your point? Because the word references an event the word becomes that event?

It does not become the event. It becomes associated with the event. Sometimes very strongly associated, as in this case.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Actually, it does. By educated I don't necessarily mean formally. One can educate themselves in such matters.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
You've worked against your own point. Sucking on a f*g in britain is far different than sucking on a f*g in north america. Also, the word f*g is a noun. The word holocaust is not a noun. It only becomes a noun (or thing) when you call it "the holocaust".

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a holocaust
the holocaust

... both words are nouns.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
What an assinine comment. Nothing I said has been the least bit racist.

Even though psycholinguistics is a hobby horse of mine, I have decided to not make any remarks against any of what you have tried to argue.

To be honest, its wrong, or, rather, you have much too academic of an understanding of language. The definitions of and even the words that are themselves contained in a dictionary are dependent on the cultural understanding of a word which is based on common subjective experiences referencing a word. I'd be amazed if you could find a dictionary today that didn't reference WW2 in its definition of holocaust.

However I digress, because there is nothing more that I can say to you that you have not proven for yourself with this comment.

You were cutting hairs about academic definitions of a holocaust vs social experience with the Holocaust, and trying to say that people who associate the name "Holocaust" (of a super villain no less) with the latter are uneducated.

To which I replied, "Name your child Adolf". I can only assume you do not understand my reference, as your response assumed I was making a remark about racism.

Adolf is a name. It was around prior to the year 1900. It has a meaning that is probably not even associated with race. I could do a google search and try to look for it, but guess what would come up? Adolf Hitler, thats right. Now, here is the important part. When I said Adolf, there was no mention of Nazism, racism, or in fact, the holocaust in any way. My point was that, in society, a person named Adolf will instantly be associated with Adolf Hitler because of the common subjective experience that everyone in that society shares of him.

So, to spell it out, you saw the term Adolf. The parts of your brain associated with deciphering the meaning of words looked though your memory to find what that specific arrangement of letters means, and when it did, associated all of your past experience with that word to fully understand it. Since all of the items stored in long term memory are based more on how you feel about them than on strict "definitions", seeing a term like Adolf HAD to stir up feelings inside of you with regards to Adolf Hitler. Which is the point.

Regardless of any textbook definition of "holocaust", what we associate with it will be what we have experienced with the term and how we feel about it. This is how sounds even got meaning in the first place. They didn't write the dictionaries first.

Oh, EDIT: I will remark about the diferances between names and nouns. In this case it is irrellevent. We do have the ability to form grammatically correct sentences, but words are processesed much earlier than that and on a deeper semantic level. When reading the name of a character named "Holocaust" it will activate any and all experience you have had with the term. Most people have only really experienced it with association to WW2. The fact that Holocaust is a villain makes it much more likely that someone will associate his name with the evil of genocide.

Your brain processes much more than you ever become consiously aware of. Even if when you see the term "holocaust" you only consiously think of "something consumed by fire" the fact that you know that there was "the Holocaust" will be triggered, even if only subconsiously, which has some other nice priming effects.

Edit for the umpteenth time: Man, I didn't take my write sentence make sense drugs tonight 😉

What thoughts does the word holocaust provoke in everybody?

It makes me think of the end of the World and the Nazi extermination of Jews during WW II.

Black Goliath... like really?

And Ymir.
Everyone knows that when Thor gets "wowed", he says "Ymir's blood" ( 😆, I typed in "bloob, instead of blood... twice!).
I find it very offensive, and it makes the Thor comics look like they should be rated R.
It looks bad on the company, and the series.

How about Thunderclap? 😆

He killed that mexican guy in Frontline 😛

Thunderclap. Pretty sure I got a shot for that once.

Go Bears!

An old Chinese enemy of SHIELD - The Yellow Claw. 😘

Plus Brother Voodoo, Black Lightning and Black Racer.

Sh*thead? F*ckwit?