Post #2 - Response to Devil Lance.
(damn character limits)
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OK, now where is your proof that Mangog is invisible?
I gave you why he won't be, but I am supposed to take your word that he will be invisible?
OK, here again is why he won't be:
X-Man hasn't demonstrated that he can do that for anyone else. As far as we know from those scans, is that his power was continually working for him to be like that.
And, he can indeed turn Mangog invisible, but for it to keep working, he would need to be really close, or hold hands with X-Man for the whole time.
X-Man distorts the light around himself, not others.
Now, I haven't seen proof that Quaser can do it, but it would be OK if he could. Doesn't matter either way.
Also, how are they going to distort the light around the shields you put up?
So, Mangog is visible, and he is vunerable.
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I don't need to prove that he is as powerful as her (even though he is most likely). Quaser didn't say anything about how powerful the magic had to be, he said he was useless against magic.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6450/magicvulnerability2qc2.jpg
Now, that Quaser's useless against magic, we know that AM will be taking him out. What is Dr. Druid's type of attacks, you ask?
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/103/mindfreezedetailedjh6.jpg
Yes, magic (you also overlooked this part in the prep phase).
Also, my guy will be continually hitting him, not just once, until he goes down. Quaser won't be taking too many magic mind blasts, until he goes down.
Even if he takes the first one I will be dishing out, I will hit him again, and again, until he taste dirt.
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We know he can take telepathy.
Those scans were irrelevent.
But, I find it interesting how his Quantum Bands project a psi-block.
Those same things can't take magic.
So, when I cream him with my telepathy, those psi-blocks will be hindered non-existing, and I won't just be hitting him with magic, I will be hitting him with the full force of my attack too.
So, he should be going down in the first attack, but if by some miracle he stands, he is gone in the next one.
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You also forget that two of the characters I can use (Darth will deal with Despero), are made out of Cap's shield material. His shield absorbs attacks through it's vibranium.
His omni-attack, will at best, get their attention.
Even if it gets more than that, your whole strategy behind it was to put Mangog in a position to hammer on SA (which I will get to later), nothing really more with it. It won't hurt our guys like you think, and you also forgot that as soon as the battle started, you guys were busy making illusions, and then you were going to suprise us with an omni-blast, when we were fighting those illusions (in which we already disproved them working against us).
So, how are we not going to be ready for that omni-blast again?
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OK, I know Quaser has absorbed him, but you are forgetting that Thor has also absorbed a simular thing (a blast that would destroy a 5th of the universe to be exact). While Thor was able to do that, he was still overloaded by his own energy that came out of the hammer.
Also I gave Quaser absorbing AM as a hypothical situation, in which I turned into your energy, and tried to escape. You said you would absorb me (in which I disproved).
You forgot that as soon as you put me in a bubble (which is still highly unlikely), I would be mindraping you. As soon as you come near AM (or when you try that suprise omni-blast that won't work), you will be attacked mentally.
So, Quaser goes down, and I still have counters to your other attacks, if they somehow went that way.
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Funny, I won't be trying to break the bubble with brute strength, I'm not stupid.
If I turn into that bubbles properties, I can easily phase through it.
I will only break out of it (if you get me in it), after I dispose of Quaser, which won't take long.
Also, do Quaser's bubbles last after he gets KOed? (because then I wouldn't even have to use a second or two of my time)
Either way though, I'm not staying in a bubble, if you get me in it.
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What do your reflexes have to do with getting attacked mentally?
Also, when I'm using my speed, I won't have my back turned agaisnt you, and I won't be running around you. So, those scans, still don't prove your getting me in a bubble.
Unless your talking about a bubble, in which it doesn't matter if you get me in a bubble or not.
Also, I have Despero's speed to help protect me against him getting me in a bubble. I'm not going to be going fast the entire time, just to avoid your attacks.
Plus, you forgot that I would attack you as soon as you were matched up against me, so that would mean, that while you were trying to do your omni-blast (bad move on your part), I would hit you hard with a magic mental attack.
So, you most likely, won't even get the chance to try to get me in a bubble. But, if you do, I will avoid it. But if it does hit me, I won't care.
But again, it doesn't matter if it works or not, because Quaser is still going down. Then it is simply a matter of getting out (if you get me in it), and going to help one of my teammates.
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Yes, his FISTS were moving fast, not his BODY. He has to get close to get the chance to pummel on SA.
It won't work. The omni-blast is to get Mangog in the position to hammer on SA, who is still made out of Cap's shield.
At first you thought we were only as durible as Dr. Druid, in which you probably would have beat SA good, but no, he is as durible as Cap's shield, so it doesn't matter if it works or not. Your not putting him down like Thor went down in those scans.
Also, in those scans, Mangog cheap shotted Thor (it's not the greatest speed feat in which this happened). You won't get the same chance that Mangog had on Thor (mostly due to the omni-blast not working out as planned). But even if you did, Cap's shield is way more durible than just Thor.
So since, the omni-blast won't be stunning our characters like you though, Mangog won't be in the position that he got on Thor.
Even if it did, my guy is more than durible enough to take a few.
Also, since I have Despero's speed, Mangog will also have another way of not landing those hits.
His fists may be fast against an unsuspecting fighter, but he still isn't hitting our guy.
And since it will probably end up in a stalemate, it's all a matter of AM coming out to double team Mangog (since Darth will most likely not need help).
Mangog goes down, and if Darth's guy is still fighting X-Man (probably not), we will triple-team X-Man, and we win.
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Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now on to Mangog vs SA
Mangog is not limited to close range attacks he also can fire enrgy blasts so we don't have to worry about SA absorbingMangog's tk armor or Quantam Armor.
Except that you said that Mangog would be pounding on SA.
Are you changing strategy?
Also, Mangog is a complete physical combatant.
He may have some lang range attacks, but he isn't going to pass up hitting his attacker.
So basically, now you want Mangog to go out of character and back away to fire long range attacks, cause that is the only way he is avoiding getting his amour absorbed.
Those won't work either, and after AM is done with Quaser, he is in a world of hurting.
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Originally posted by Devil Lance
It was a suprise attack he'd be too surpised by the shock of the opening attack he wouldn't be reayd for an attack from behind .
When in the opening post, did you guys say that you were attacking us from behind?
You said you would teleport, but I don't remember from behind.
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So:
Quaser can't absorb AM (irrelevent, since I won't give him the chance to try).
AM's mind attacks are more than enough to take out Quaser.
Mangog ISN'T invisible unless we take your word for it... Mangog is right out there in the open the whole time. Unless you can somehow prove otherwise.
Why would it matter if we were faster than you, we never claimed to be. Just claimed to avoid a bubble (doesn't matter if it lands, I'm still taking out Quaser), or avoid Mangog (doesn't matter if you land, you aren't getting the chance to attack us like you said, and if you do, SA is more durible than Thor by a long shot). But, we might just very well be faster than you. Still doesn't really matter either way though.
No, no, no, if they do land, after I take out Quaser, I can break out of them in seconds. And, you think I will just use physical attacks, but I have other ways (as I said).
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So, for my part (I already debunked what you said):
I will attack Quaser as soon as he comes near to pull off something (omni-blast), which should take him down. But if not, another mind attack will take him down for sure.
The omni-blast won't be as effective as you guys first thought. Two of our guys are made out of Cap's shield (I'll let Darth deal with Depsero).
Which will severely cut the effectiveness of you attack.
SA won't be suprised from the omni-blast. And after it, he will avoid Mangog's attack. Or if they land, SA is durible enough to take it.
Plus, Mangog's fists are only fast, not his whole body, so that will also go against it, unless SA is a foot away from him (but I got speed on my side too).
Quaser won't trap AM in a bubble. Right after (or before) the omni-blast he also has to deal with AM's magic based telepathy. Plus, he also has to deal with AM's speed. So he won't be getting him in it.
But like I said before, it doesn't matter if he does or not, so that is useless.
So, after that, AM will go double team Mangog. After we take out Mangog, it could quite possibly be a triple team on X-Man.
Then we take it.
