Superman is foremost among equals, by DCs pen.
Sentry is a hero without equals, by Marvels pen.
Thing is Marvel at the moment isn't full of active top tier Super heroes. Thor's dead(ish) Hulk's in space. None of the heralds hang out on Earth neither does Gladiator, Doctor Strange is usually occupied during any company events. So we're left with Hercules and Blackbolt and he's barely a superhero at that.
Well lets see.Powerful magic users would tear Supes apart with out kryptonite
High level users of the power cosmic would tear Supes apart with out kryptonite
Reality warpers would tear Supes apart with out kryptonite
Skyfathers would tear Supes apart with out kryptonite
I agree with all of them except the heralds. With Superman's weaknesses downgraded to mere anoyances, they're left with solar energy manipulation. One problem though the sun's still there. Superman can recharge his reserves in a fraction of second.
They can still win because they're all powerful. But it won't be a curbstomp in their favour.
Right...
Because wolverine carries a suppy of krytonite with him at all times. Also its not like Superman has enemies made out of krytonite that he still defeats.
Superman may have a weakness to krpytonite but Wolverine has a weakness to being frozen solid, having every cell of body desintegrated or being thrown into the sun.
Originally posted by Magee
Sentry above the level Superman plays on, what the hell? Superman would do the exact same thing sentry done to Terrax. It does not matter where each company places them in their heirarchy or whatever. The fact still stands Superman feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sentry. Until we see more from Sentry I dont think it's fair to say he is above Superman, if you say so it is purely opinion.
You don't get it.
Superman doesn't own top tiers with the casual ease that Sentry has done from day one.
I never said that Superman wouldn't beat Terrax.
What i did say, was that he's never been shown to dominate top tiers like Sentry.
He broke his hand without an effort, and then smashed his cosmic axe.
Superman doesn't throw out power thats capable of destroying multiple worlds in a fight, does he?
He wouldn't be able to defeat multiple teams at the same time, would he?
Originally posted by UniOmni
You don't get it.Superman doesn't own top tiers with the casual ease that Sentry has done from day one.
I never said that Superman wouldn't beat Terrax.
What i did say, was that he's never been shown to dominate top tiers like Sentry.
He broke his hand without an effort, and then smashed his cosmic axe.Superman doesn't throw out power thats capable of destroying multiple worlds in a fight, does he?
He wouldn't be able to defeat multiple teams at the same time, would he?
Sentry is an more "realistic" Superman-rippoff then both Gladiator and Hyperion, but still an ripoff. They took the OWAW Superman as their model it seems.
Superman defeated mutiple Imperiex-Probe-Teams (a Probe is the equivalent of an Herald) with ease. Though an Imperiex Probe is probably more powerful then a Herald as it was never defeated before. So, he beat the first Probe ever learned how to do it, was pissed off enough of Imperiex to realse an portion of his "wrath" and defeated whole teams of this Probes.
He would do the same to the whole Herald Team 😉.
Imperiex himself said it, Superman is an cosmic anomaly, defying the natural order. Alexander Luthor said "For some Reason I can't explain or understand, and probably never will, everything comes from Superman." This is DC approach to a true Superman, and this is the reason he gets so much spite and hate from Marvel and others. Every Superheroe out there, may he be from Mangas or Comics or Vieo Games is measured by the first real Superheroe, Superman. This is the reason you will find Superman in most vs Threads when it comes down to power, everyone wants to proove himself, or his heroe, and how to do it best then to compete with the BEST. Most won't accept the fact that he will always be the first and best and the only answer they have is hate and spite, which is really sad.
Sentry is an more honest approach to Marvels own version of Superman, stalemating Galactus, kicking herlad butts with ease, but it is still pale to the real one. If Superman would belong to Marvel he would rule the Universe.
Sword of Superman and Superman-Prime seem to be DCs answer to all the hate and spite of all the other Superheroes/Heroes/antiheroes who tried to compete with Superman and lost. The Ultimate being, the most powerful there is, but still the classic Superman will always be the best of them all, not only because of his powers but because of his morale and his values, he is an icon, the only Superheroe who achieved this status.
Batman Prime may have been going a bit far but he is right. Imperiex probes are definitley top tier They were fighting whole teams of heroes at once.Also Mongul. Superman owns him every few months with ease.
Who else? Superman had easily defeat Major Force before.
Lets see how the Blackbolt fight goes before we claim sentry is above top tier. Or what happens during the eventual Thor match up.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Sentry is an more "realistic" Superman-rippoff then both Gladiator and Hyperion, but still an ripoff. They took the OWAW Superman as their model it seems.Superman defeated mutiple Imperiex-Probe-Teams (a Probe is the equivalent of an Herald) with ease. Though an Imperiex Probe is probably more powerful then a Herald as it was never defeated before. So, he beat the first Probe ever learned how to do it, was pissed off enough of Imperiex to realse an portion of his "wrath" and defeated whole teams of this Probes.
He would do the same to the whole Herald Team 😉.
The only thing probes had on most heralds, was strength.
And that was from the showing where one tossed Mongul hella far.
Energy projection? HA! Took seven probes to destroy one planet, iirc. GTFOH!
Durability? Blunt trauma, possibly, but not likely at all. Superman and DD wouldn't be able to one punch heralds in mass, like they did probes.
I'm going to treat the probes the way you treat the Sentry-Superman relationship.
Probes are a clear deritave of the heralds, but they don't stack up. Same way you see Superman and Sentry?
But to use your logic(which lacks, truthfully ), the Sentry is more powerful than Superman, since he's never been defeated straight up yet.
The worse he's looked, is against an above the top tier cosmic in Genis.
Owned!
The probes were also extremly fast. Hypolita commented that they were as fast as Wonder Woman and Hermes. They could also fight on equal terms with top teirs. A few them also defeated most of the Justice league at the time.
When Sentry fought Magento he seemed to be having trouble and Magneto could barly put togther a coherant thought at the time. Iron man made him bleed.
Originally posted by UniOmni
The only thing probes had on most heralds, was strength.And that was from the showing where one tossed Mongul hella far.
Energy projection? HA! Took seven probes to destroy one planet, iirc. GTFOH!
Durability? Blunt trauma, possibly, but not likely at all. Superman and DD wouldn't be able to one punch heralds in mass, like they did probes.
I'm going to treat the probes the way you treat the Sentry-Superman relationship.
Probes are a clear deritave of the heralds, but they don't stack up. Same way you see Superman and Sentry?
But to use your logic(which lacks, truthfully ), the Sentry is more powerful than Superman, since he's never been defeated straight up yet.
The worse he's looked, is against an above the top tier cosmic in Genis.
Owned!
You owned just your opinion, nothing more nothing less 😉.
BTW the Probes were never defeated before, that means since the Big Bang of the Universe (the birth of Imperiex), which is a waaaay longer then Sentry exists. So owned 😉.
But since Marvelheroes are generaly less powerful then DC heroes he can't have low showings yet, I mean Sentry, he is too young, wait some years, let some writers come and go. And one day he will be beaten by the Rhino 😄. You know what I mean.
Gladiator-Hyperion-Sentry are all spite and hate, a mock of Superman
Like the mock of the Avengers in the Superman/Batman comics
or the Squadron Supreme
or Imperiex and his Heralds, I mean probes
all hate and spite, just to show wat each company thinks of the other....
They can say that Imperiex is an devourer of Galaxies and Universes, and Galactus just an Devourer of Worlds. Still Galactus > Imperiex, Herald > Probe, Avengers > Maximus, JLA > Squadron Supreme, original > ripoff, kindness and fairness > hate and spite...
I guess you know what I mean, maybe you can even agree with me...
BTW am I the only one who thinks that Sentry looks like the Supermanclone from Superman IV, Nuclear Man was his name....
Originally posted by Galvaclaw
The probes were also extremly fast. Hypolita commented that they were as fast as Wonder Woman and Hermes. They could also fight on equal terms with top teirs. A few them also defeated most of the Justice league at the time.When Sentry fought Magento he seemed to be having trouble and Magneto could barly put togther a coherant thought at the time. Iron man made him bleed.
Heralds generally are top tiers.
And everybody who wasn't Superman, Doomsday and Zod jobbed needlessly in OWAW.
Superman alone, can do what the big seven can't? Bullshit.
And Sentry fought a Magneto who was way over his standard power levels. He wasn't simply the master of magnetism there.
Ironman made him bleed, only after missing with Cloc, the ai of Sentry, pretty much. Tech feat.
He didn't defeat him in a power vs power match. Brains vs Brawn was the flavor that day.
And to Prime....
Sentry hasn't been flat out defeated yet by another hero or badguy. But the probes were beaten by an offworld alien.
A powerful alien, but a little guy in the scheme of things.
Sentry stalemating Genis, doing well against an amped Magneto >> Superman dropping some mental blocks and going through probes like they were Deathstroke level in power.
They couldn't even destroy a planet on their own. Don't bring me more powerful than heralds stuff.
And Marvel has heroes that trump some of DC's biggest guns.
Just because they all don't stay on Earth, doesn't mean they don't exist.
you do know that the characters are all equals to eachother... a reason why they are thought up is because another exists in the other companies team... superman has been imitated many times, so marvel could have their own because the real one is most likely never to switch... DC just wouldn't allow it.
so their latest attempt is nuclear man from super.... i mean sentry, who is so up and down in power
It's going a bit far saying that Sentry is more powerful than Superman, especailly when he hasn't shown anything close to be up to par with him. Sentry bleeds from ironman, someone that wouldn't even budge Supes if he was to hit him. You characters like Gladiator having a difficult time putting down characters like Colossus and Thing, these two wouldn't even cause Supes trouble. Then you have Heralds like Surfer getting KOed by just a few hits by Thanos and Thor; Supes can take beatings on purpose by characters that are way into the billions of ton range, and still get up.
And Yeah Sentry fought Genis and Terrax, so what, big deal Have people fougtten about the beings Supes go up against like Darkseid, Eradicator, and Lobo (Characters I think would own Terrax just easily as Sentry).
Sentry is powerful, but still think it's way to soon to be saying he's more powerful than Supes when he hasn't done anything yet that Supes wouldn't be able to do.
Originally posted by dvampire
Sentry is powerful, but still think it's way to soon to be saying he's more powerful than Supes when he hasn't done anything yet that Supes wouldn't be able to do.
this part, i agree with 100%
sentry has to have some serious feats under his belt before anyone can say he's above superman imo...
blasting into hell and taking on numerous angels of death and the likes, and beating them all, or turning the wheels of magheddon just to name a few... sentry needs to get going if he wants to be seen in similar light to superman... see what i did their with the light bit, his powers are light based, superman is in need of a light source like the sun (also heat but he uses the light)
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
You owned just your opinion, nothing more nothing less 😉.BTW the Probes were never defeated before, that means since the Big Bang of the Universe (the birth of Imperiex), which is a waaaay longer then Sentry exists. So owned 😉.
But since Marvelheroes are generaly less powerful then DC heroes he can't have low showings yet, I mean Sentry, he is too young, wait some years, let some writers come and go. And one day he will be beaten by the Rhino 😄. You know what I mean.
Gladiator-Hyperion-Sentry are all spite and hate, a mock of Superman
Like the mock of the Avengers in the Superman/Batman comics
or the Squadron Supreme
or Imperiex and his Heralds, I mean probes
all hate and spite, just to show wat each company thinks of the other....They can say that Imperiex is an devourer of Galaxies and Universes, and Galactus just an Devourer of Worlds. Still Galactus > Imperiex, Herald > Probe, Avengers > Maximus, JLA > Squadron Supreme, original > ripoff, kindness and fairness > hate and spite...
I guess you know what I mean, maybe you can even agree with me...
BTW am I the only one who thinks that Sentry looks like the Supermanclone from Superman IV, Nuclear Man was his name....
Sentry does kinda look like Nuclear Man from Superman IV 😆