Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
actually, he's better off without it...
Debatable, because the gem gives Warlock a lot of nifty powers that have won him a fair number of battles. He may not seem as physically adept with the gem, but that is probably due to the fact that he is like the opposite of Thanos in battle-- Thanos does not use his niftier powers when a ***** slap suffices, while Warlock does not brawl when he has his soul gem around. Warlock is also a prime example of using cosmic power to amp oneself, as there is no way he can brawl with previous incarnations of Drax at only class 40. I say his seeing lack of physical abilities is because he simply does not amp himself up when he has his gem around.
Warlock is smart enough to take down almost anybody without amping himself to his normal levels. Add that to karmic blasts + soul rip, and it is hard to agree that he is weaker with it.
Besides, cosmic entities amp themselves to nigh incalculable levels. Does Warlock need to be in the Thanos strength class to hold his own in battle with his wits and soul gem abilities? I see little evidence of the soul gem inhibiting him to such an extent he is completely physically dominated. This aspect has not been fleshed out enough and hence I hesitate to state how large the inhibiting factor is.
Originally posted by Ouallada
Warlock is smart enough to take down almost anybody without amping himself to his normal levels. Add that to karmic blasts + soul rip, and it is hard to agree that he is weaker with it.Besides, cosmic entities amp themselves to nigh incalculable levels. Does Warlock need to be in the Thanos strength class to hold his own in battle with his wits and soul gem abilities? I see little evidence of the soul gem inhibiting him to such an extent he is completely physically dominated. This aspect has not been fleshed out enough and hence I hesitate to state how large the inhibiting factor is.
i meant that the soul gem's vampiric tendencies sometimes takes a toll on adam...
no one is disputing adam's h2h ability...
it is through adam's indomitable will that he overcomes this...
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I think Warlock has brawled with Drax and won, is smarter, faster, and much more skilled than Ravenous. I see this being a decent challenge, but a clear Warlock victory.
I hear you, and i think Warlock takes the majority as well, but Ronan will win some. His cybernetic armor grants him additional resilience, stamina, and strength on top of his normal enhanced levels, plus his hammer that can do a number of things like suspend/ freeze people, fire cosmic blasts, and smash faces in (i.e Ravenous 🙂 ). He is also a really good strategist, and is incredibly smart.
I say Warlock wins 7/10.
Originally posted by guy222
adam's a cheerleader now 😂some of the great powers don't know adam and thanos' future
imo, adam is good, thanos is bad
I respect your opinion and your def. entitled to it, but yes many times when Thanos fights Adam is a "cheerleader". Maybe he is watching over Thanos to make sure he doesn't do anything to crazy. Either way he usually end up making a comment like " we have not yet seen the full extent of the Titan's power".
W/e lets not make this into another Thanos thread.
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
i meant that the soul gem's vampiric tendencies sometimes takes a toll on adam...no one is disputing adam's h2h ability...
it is through adam's indomitable will that he overcomes this...
To me it was always a mental stress thing rather than a cosmic drain kinda effect, and thus I disagreed that it would have much bearing on Warlock's overall effectiveness. If Warlock has the will to overcome the mental stress, why is his overall power in question?
Originally posted by nimbus006
I respect your opinion and your def. entitled to it, but yes many times when Thanos fights Adam is a "cheerleader". Maybe he is watching over Thanos to make sure he doesn't do anything to crazy. Either way he usually end up making a comment like " we have not yet seen the full extent of the Titan's power".W/e lets not make this into another Thanos thread.
i respects urs
writers do make mistakes imo adam and thanos will always have a connection 🙂
Originally posted by Ouallada
To me it was always a mental stress thing rather than a cosmic drain kinda effect, and thus I disagreed that it would have much bearing on Warlock's overall effectiveness. If Warlock has the will to overcome the mental stress, why is his overall power in question?
i think the soul gem was depowered when warlock left counter-earth, it was also around this time that it was explained that the gem was unique because it was the only one of the six gems that had sentience with vampiric qualities...
it was also around this time, i think, that it said that the gem affected warlock's ability to harness cosmic energy...
Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
i think the soul gem was depowered when warlock left counter-earth, it was also around this time that it was explained that the gem was unique because it was the only one of the six gems that had sentience with vampiric qualities...it was also around this time, i think, that it said that the gem affected warlock's ability to harness cosmic energy...
I would not say vampiric. I cannot jump to conclusions as not enough has been shown about this aspect of the gem, but I take it to be a burden on Warlock's psyche instead. IE places a mental barrier on his natural abilities. The question is whether a slight decrease in cosmic abilities, which Warlock in his later incarnations rarely relies on dominantly in his battles, can offset the huge number of nifty tricks the soul gem allows. The soul rip alone gives Warlock a majority, and the fact that Warlock is more powerful overall and is smarter gives him a large majority