A good majority of things in the handbooks are accurate though
and if not specifically accurate, it probably reflects how the people at Marvel feel about the characters more than what they have been written to do.
Its an interesting debate, handbook vs showings, though I prefer the later.
I don't know, I could be wrong on this one. I think the Man-Thing entry was really accurate...
I think a huge problem is that it is only a measure of 1-7
there is no way to accurately group so many characters by groups of seven.
So, the way I see it, is they end up giving Namor a lower number, just to show he isn't as strong as the infinitely strong Hulk, however, yes, clearly against prior showings.
It is ridiculous, I don't understand this desire people have to place numbers on things.
Originally posted by bigbran
Here is the worst case of all...
Look where Surfer is.That's right, they said Surfer was in the same strength class as Spider-Man, and Ghost Rider... and beneath Iron Man...😐
I already knew that Spider-man was a liar. The guy says things like "Captain America punches with the power of an A-Bomb!" or "I have 40x the reflexes of a normal man!" with a straight face. 😎
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I already knew that Spider-man was a liar. The guy says things like "Captain America punches with the power of an A-Bomb!" or "I have 40x the reflexes of a normal man!" with a straight face. 😎
Wolverine says he's the best he is at what he does.
And what he does is suck.
I love how everyone gets so worked up about this stuff:
1. Comics are about the stories and characters. Internet-forum battle geeks aren't really on the writers' minds when then pen something (usually at least).
2. Everything varies wildly. Handbooks, writers, individual showings/feats from characters. It's the nature of our hobby.
3. We're probably more versed than anyone, because of how much we pay attention to it, on characters' exact power levels.
4. That pic up there is, judging by the Spidey artwork, early 70's at best. Don't get your panties in a knot over it. lol
I remember having a discussion once with someone about whether we were more qualified to talk about characters than Stan Lee. And the sh*t of it is, we probably are. I doubt Stan is as versed in the continuity of many of his own creations as we are....it's the nature of the beast. He's an industry giant, and a comic legend, but he'd get wtf-bbq-pwnerized in, say, the current tourney we're having.
^ Cosigned!
Though we all get carried away at times, with battles and whatnot, in the end it is all about the story and character development. We probably shouldn't get as worked up as we do (in general). But on the other hand it is fun debating all this stuff, just as long as you don't take it too seriously.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I love how everyone gets so worked up about this stuff:1. Comics are about the stories and characters. Internet-forum battle geeks aren't really on the writers' minds when then pen something (usually at least).
2. Everything varies wildly. Handbooks, writers, individual showings/feats from characters. It's the nature of our hobby.
3. We're probably more versed than anyone, because of how much we pay attention to it, on characters' exact power levels.
4. That pic up there is, judging by the Spidey artwork, early 70's at best. Don't get your panties in a knot over it. lolI remember having a discussion once with someone about whether we were more qualified to talk about characters than Stan Lee. And the sh*t of it is, we probably are. I doubt Stan is as versed in the continuity of many of his own creations as we are....it's the nature of the beast. He's an industry giant, and a comic legend, but he'd get wtf-bbq-pwnerized in, say, the current tourney we're having.
Kinda scary that a bunch of guys on an internet forum know more about comics than the actual writers and creators, but yeah, it's true. 😆 Yay us. 🤓 I guess it's a good thing, because it means we are the guardians and historians of our art form. In a sense, we are the "watchers" of comic-books. You could call it a sacred duty, or an extemely stupid waste of time, but it's a hobby like any other. After all, if a character gets ruined by bad writing or a shitty plotline, (Black Panther under Hudlin, DS losing to Supes, Onslaught Reborn, the massive jobbing of old school characters like Apoc, Magneto and god knows who else), who except us, the true fans and connoisseurs of the medium, has the right and ability to judge it? 😖mart:
Not meant to be taken nearly as seriously as it sounds, but something to consider. And yes, I do think comics/manga/graphic novels/etc. are an art form.