Democratic Nomination?

Started by Strangelove101 pages

Originally posted by Devil King
and I said I might have missed it.

So, your basic answer is that there is no fair or amicable resolution to the situation. How about spliting the delegates right down the middle? It's a solution i've heard a number of times; but that, also, doesn't serve the "voice of the people" in those states.

And from whom are we hearing the issue of money? Only state representatives, as well as who?

Perhaps his endorsement comes too late for the primaries, but it doesn't come too late for the question of "who is more electable".

You're right; there really is no easy way to do it.

What do you mean "whom are we hearing it from?" It doesn't matter who it's coming from, it's an issue that will need to be addressed.

We'll see what effect it has. Al Gore's endorsement is more important, imo

Originally posted by Devil King
do you recieve e-mails from Mrs. Clinton's campaign?
Yes I do. I also used to get e-mails from BO, but I unsubscribed when I realized I never read them.

You mean "Al Gore" the national joke? Which states does he recently represent?

No, I don't think he's a national joke. But I see Al Gore as a member of the former Clinton administration. But, who has made more of a splash, former Clinton administration member, Al Gore, or former Clinton Administration member Bill Richards: who has come out in support of Mr. Obama?

You might never read them, but isn't that an admission of willful ignorance? I'm honestly not trying to say you don't pay attention, as I'm cerain you do. But I don't ignore any emails I recieve from your candidate's campaign. I get emails from both, and have for some time. But I still don't dismiss Mrs. Clinton's campaign's emails. But, my opinion has yet to change.

I hardly even read the one from Clinton's campaign anymore: I know all the arguments both candidates make for themselves, and the only ones they send anymore are "give me money" or "We have the momentum" etc. They might work for undecided voters, but they're just a nuisance for me lately.

I do, however, run the IU College Democrats inbox, and I still have e-mails from both campaigns sent there.

Oh, sorry. In reference to Al Gore, he may have been a "national joke" in 2001-2004, but lately he's become a powerful force in the Democratic Party. Who he endorses in this primary, if he does endorse, will be a huge event.

And Al Gore is officially a superdelegate from Tennessee. It's also important to note that John Edwards is not a superdelegate.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I hardly even read the one from Clinton's campaign anymore: I know all the arguments both candidates make for themselves, and the only ones they send anymore are "give me money" or "We have the momentum" etc. They might work for undecided voters, but they're just a nuisance for me lately.

I do, however, run the IU College Democrats inbox, and I still have e-mails from both campaigns sent there.

I think you'll find that Mrs. Clinton's website is much more focused on "give me money" than is Mr. Obama's website. What i've heard from new suppporters is the matter of how to register without giving money. Mr. Obama's site does no such thing.

I'm excited to know you, I really am (as much as that implies in our non-relationship over the internet.) But I don't see how constantly pointing out that you're the head-democrat-in-charge suddenly changes your argument.

Oh no, I wasn't name dropping. I was just pointing out that I still get Barack's e-mails sent to that address, just not my personal e-mail. I didn't mean anything by it. My apologies for allowing that to be construed.

Originally posted by Devil King
I think you'll find that Mrs. Clinton's website is much more focused on "give me money" than is Mr. Obama's website. What i've heard from new suppporters is the matter of how to register without giving money. Mr. Obama's site does no such thing.
If you go to HillaryClinton.com, yes, there will be a page asking you to contribute, but there's also a very clear link that says "Skip and go to hillaryclinton.com"

Originally posted by Strangelove
Oh, sorry. In reference to Al Gore, he may have been a "national joke" in 2001-2004, but lately he's become a powerful force in the Democratic Party. Who he endorses in this primary, if he does endorse, will be a huge event.

And Al Gore is officially a superdelegate from Tennessee. It's also important to note that John Edwards is not a superdelegate.

I didn't say it wouldn't be a "huge event". I'm simply saying it wouldn't solve anything. And if he does come out in support, what do you think would be the opinion of all those uneducated whites who see the connection between Clinton 1 and Clinton 2? I admire Al Gore. Admittedly, less for what he did as a VP and more for what he decided to do as a "former"VP.

"Huge Event" apparently comes down to the moment in which it actually happens. Sadly, we can't draw out EVERY former Clinton the 1st cabinet member. Too bad no one remembers most of them.

Originally posted by Strangelove
If you go to HillaryClinton.com, yes, there will be a page asking you to contribute, but there's also a very clear link that says "Skip and go to hillaryclinton.com"

So, I'm the idiot for not wanting to contribute? And you're the enlightened one for having done so? Again, contrary to her espoused views and objective.

Originally posted by Devil King
So, I'm the idiot for not wanting to contribute? And you're the enlightened one for having done so? Again, contrary to her espoused views and objective.
...I'm sorry, you totally lost me.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Oh no, I wasn't name dropping. I was just pointing out that I still get Barack's e-mails sent to that address, just not my personal e-mail. I didn't mean anything by it. My apologies for allowing that to be construed.

Pointing out that you might get them and ignore them.

Originally posted by Strangelove
...I'm sorry, you totally lost me.

I might not have the cash to incite your interest.

Hey Strangelove. I have a question for you.

Do you think Clinton should accept VP for Obama should he actually win the nomination? As a Clinton supporter I'm interested in your view. Also, how do you think other Clinton supporters would feel about that ticket?

Originally posted by Devil King
Pointing out that you might get them and [b]ignore them. [/B]
I'm sorry, I don't think I like your tone. I've already made my decision who I support in this primary; hell, I already voted. No e-mail is going to change my opinion of either candidate, so I don't see what purpose it serves. I have the e-mails sent there for archival purposes.

Originally posted by BackFire
Hey Strangelove. I have a question for you.

Do you think Clinton should accept VP for Obama should he actually win the nomination? As a Clinton supporter I'm interested in your view. Also, how do you think other Clinton supporters would feel about that ticket?

If it comes down to that, yes I think she should accept that offer.

Again, if it comes down to that, I think Clinton supporters would rather have Clinton as second banana than not on the ticket at all.

Originally posted by Devil King
I might not have the cash to incite your interest.
Go to barackobama.com. Right now. What do you see? That's right, a big button saying "Donate Now". It's in a different format than Clinton's, but it's there. Your arrogance really is annoying, and it's certainly not appreciated when I'm trying to have a productive discussion.

On that note, it's 5:10 in the morning and I need to get the **** to bed. Later gents.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I'm sorry, I don't think I like your tone. I've already made my decision who I support in this primary; hell, I already voted. No e-mail is going to change my opinion of either candidate, so I don't see what purpose it serves. I have the e-mails sent there for archival purposes.

You don't like my tone? I've been the most amicable person to speak in this thread...as well as the most complimentary. I dismiss the protests of people who object to Mrs. Clinton based on nothing more than hyperbole. Come on, man! I'm seriously looking for objective opinion. Granted, yours might not be, but I'm open to interpretation. "I've already made my descision" is the perspective of an irrational voter! I also have the emails of Mrs. Clinton's campaign, after having read them, but I haven't changed my perspective. I'm simply saying Ms. Clinton ignore the rules, changes the finish line when it suits her, gets nasty on her own candidates, ignores the math, and still claims victory and electabliity. The math in this primary doesn't add up and neither does her foothold on the general election numbers. If she wants to accept the VP status, for America, then do it. Otherwise, accept reality and make room for others! Edwards has long been one of my choices for VP.

Originally posted by Devil King
You don't like my tone? I've been the most amicable person to speak in this thread...as well as the most complimentary.
When will people realize that when I make a statement, it is rarely a generalization? I appreciate the fact that among the other anti-Clinton posters in this thread, you've been the most cooperative (not a high bar, though). But I was referring to a single post.

Do I ignore e-mails sent by both BOs' and HRCs' campaigns? Yes. Does that in any way mean that I'm uninformed and/or unwilling to change my opinion? Absolutely not. However, I will point out that the fact that I already voted is somewhat final, wouldn't you agree?

The notion that my level of commitment to this campaign is somehow linked to whether or not I read the campaigns' e-mails is both ridiculous and insulting. And that is what I was referring to.

Originally posted by Strangelove
If it comes down to that, yes I think she should accept that offer.

Again, if it comes down to that, I think Clinton supporters would rather have Clinton as second banana

and what has my FOX news quoting mother said more than once? That "that *****"woud shoot the president to take to office herself! I doubt it, but my singular opinion doesn't matter, apparently

what we all take for granted is how HATED the Clintons really are...by republicans.

Originally posted by Devil King
and what has my FOX news quoting mother said more than once? That "that *****"woud shoot the president to take to office herself! I doubt it, but my singular opinion doesn't matter, apparently

what we all take for granted is how HATED the Clintons really are...by republicans.

...relevance?