Democratic Nomination?

I think whatever point he was trying to make was lost in the vapid randomness. It wasn't exactly an insightful comment on the fact that Clinton herself can be a polarizing figure; but rather a strange take that Hillary Clinton would be blamed for Bill sticking it to that Lewinsky Ho.

I would imagine Bible-thumpers could make a difference in a swing state; I don't see why Bible-thumpers would dislike Clinton for staying by her oft-straying husband and not getting divorced. I'm not sure how Bible-thumpers in already decidedly Red states have an impact.

I don't see the "religious vote" as being the key to the White House for the Democrats in any event.

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It will be interesting to see which key Clinton advisers Obama brings over (don't know if anyone posted the WSJ article) regardless of if he chooses her as VP and whether there'll be any tension as a result of that (as implied in the article) if original Obama loyalists may end up playing second string to some of Clinton's more prominent backers.

Originally posted by Strangelove
That's absolutely fcking ridiculous. Instead of getting a divorce and ending their marriage, Clinton stayed with her husband and resolved the problem. If there's anything that screams so-called "sanctity of marriage" in this campaign, it's that. Any evangelical or "religious" person who uses that excuse to not like Clinton is just lying to him/herself.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Which constituencies are you referring to, Jews? Catholics? The Evangelical religious vote is clearly the way the Democrats would win the election? Really it seems like you just comment for the sake of commenting sometimes.

Barack Obama has earned enough delegates and is now officially the presumptive Democratic nominee.

Excellent, glad to see this nonsense is coming to an end.

Is there anything Clinton could potentially do/happen to reverse this?

I think there's a very strong case for putting Hillary on the ticket. And I'm being as objective as I possibly can.

Originally posted by Strangelove
I think there's a very strong case for putting Hillary on the ticket. And I'm being as objective as I possibly can.

You're talking about the VP I take it? I was wrong about her ego though, news says she is "open" to it.

I don't know, it could potentially do more harm than good and I do not want McCain for the next four years.

Regardless of what anyone may say, there were deep divisions made in the Democratic party this primary season. Nothing will unify the Democratic Party faster than putting Hillary on the ticket. Hillary has strengths among working-class whites, women, older folks and Catholics that Barack Obama does not and will need in November. It would be irresponsible not to, in my opinion.

Again, being as objective as I possibly can.

while i hate to admit it, i guess she's the safest choice at this point. i just dont like the idea of clintons back in the executive branch.

Clinton would certainly be the wisest choice for VP as far as ensuring a victory in November goes. I have no doubt about that.

Whether she'd be the best VP as far as helping him once he's won, that's something else that's up for debate.

that's definitely the more pressing question.

I obviously think she would be a damn good VP.

Originally posted by Schecter
while i hate to admit it, i guess she's the safest choice at this point. i just dont like the idea of clintons back in the executive branch.

Originally posted by Strangelove
That reminded me of an article that I read in a magazine a few days ago (Time, I think). Very interesting.

Obama's Huge Debt to Bill Clinton

Personally, I think the best choices for him as far as being the most helpful once he's in the white house are Biden and Richardson.

They would also be incredibly effective.

But one cannot discount the purity of Clinton's work ethic in the 8 years she's been in the Senate, and her 35 years of experience in public life. She's crossed party lines (which many people like to turn a blind line to), made compromises, built consensus, and really been a tour de force in the United States Senate. Since one of the duties of the Vice President is to preside over the Senate, I think she'd be incredibly effective. Also, she doesn't pull punches. When the president has to be magnanimous (and Obama takes magnamity to a new level), the President is the "attack dog"-designate. And no one can doubt she'd be good at that.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Regardless of what anyone may say, there were deep divisions made in the Democratic party this primary season. Nothing will unify the Democratic Party faster than putting Hillary on the ticket. Hillary has strengths among working-class whites, women, older folks and Catholics that Barack Obama does not and will need in November. It would be irresponsible not to, in my opinion.

Again, being as objective as I possibly can.

Listening to his speach right now, if she isn't VP, she'll be secretary or some other high rank in the executive cabinet.

No doubt. I'm amazed and gratified for his glowing praise of her.

I'm betting they had something worked out prior, as you noted above, Obama is no stranger to the Clintons.

I think that it's likely that Clinton will concede (she did not concede in her speech) in the next few days and Obama will offer her VP. I can almost see it happening in the next week.

Yeah! Hussein for president!

That's the general concensus with many political commentators.

Now the questions remains, who will Obama-Clinton run against, McCain-XXX?

Edit: This was in reply to Strangerlover above, not the budweiser-bandit.

Originally posted by KidRock
Yeah! Hussein for president!

Quite possibly. Hopefully.

Obama just said "you won't see religion used as a wedge and patriotism used as a blugeon" in his campaign, as was seen in the previous election. How do you think your boy will counter that, "der ter'rist are coming, only I can protect yer chil'ren"?