What about a Clinton - McCain ticket? She provides the evil, he the stupid. You have a whole new Bush.
Originally posted by Bardock42
http://dailywebb.com/?p=303What about a Clinton - McCain ticket? She provides the evil, he the stupid. You have a whole new Bush.
Wow..what an idiot. If only they showed things like this on FOX.
Well, looks like it might be down to 3 possible front runners, McCain, Romney, and Ron Paul.
Thompson dropped out:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18319232
And Huckabee is broke:
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14325.html
The article also mentions that Ghouliani(Yes that was intentional) has similar problems.
Yea, it's looking good for Ron Paul.
The only people that have money are Romney and Ron Paul. Romney mostly due to his own personal funds. Nonetheless, I think McCain and Huckabee will continue going well below the proverbial "E". Especially McCain.
As long as that idiot McCain doesn't win Florida, I'm happy enough.
Here is a very nice report on the Caucus's.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#R
Also, here is a nice thing on delegates..since delgate votes can be very confusing (And it lends itself to corruption).
My review on the debate:
My first initial reaction: CRAP. That debate was awful. I usually enjoy watching the Republican debates even though I can't stand listening to some of the contenders, but this debate was just hard to watch. My eyes were bleeding and my ears screaming. Nonetheless, the reason being: Tim Russert. Damn, I wanted to go into the television, grab him by the throat and shake him and ask him, "What the **** is wrong with you?" Was this a Republican Debate between five contenders or was this a debate between Tim and Romney? I mean come on. For a while there, Romney got like six questions in a row. He just kept going after him and so forth. It was very annoying and reptetious.
Anyways, I'll give a step-by-step review of how I think each candidate did from an outsiders perspective as best I can:
Mitt Romney: I thought Mitt did well like many of the pundits said afterwards. I think he got into his rhetoric a little too much, but I understand the necessity of introducing yourself to new voters in Florida and so forth that haven't been watching before. He obviously was trying to make himself stand out as the guy that can fix the economy being a business man and the guy of "change" (stealing Obama's favorite word) and the one that is the "outsider" to the fallen Washington. He positioned himself well. I'll give him credit.
John McCain: He did horrible in my opinion. There is no two ways about it. He tried to sway the conversation back to the Iraq War and national security and quite frankly, the Florida voters and the American people don't really care about that right now. The economy and taxes are a top issue. And evidently, McCain just isn't well versed on the economy. In the "candidates ask a question" segment, Ron Paul made McCain look like the economic fool that he is. McCain was looking lost and like a deer in the headlights. He started going back to R&R (Rhetoric and Repeat) talking about all the economic buddies he is surrounded by. But the truth of the matter is: he knows nothing about the economy and how to fix it.
Rudy Guiliani: I think Rudy did better than in previous debate showings. But again, I don't feel as if he has positioned himself apart from the other candidates and said, "This is why you should vote for me and this is why I should win Florida." He seemed like John McCain's twin of sorts. Although, I will say he had a fair point about taking New York's economy that was in shambles and turning it around. Fair point.
Ron Paul: Considering he didn't get hardly five minutes worth of questioning, I thought Ron Paul positioned himself well if people are paying attention. He speaks correctly of how the Republican party has lost their way and that he is the only true conservative left in the race. He like Romney IMO, positioned himself apart from everyone else. He gave clear reasons why. He talked intelligently about the economy, the reasons things are going bad and ways to get out. And my favorite part was at the end when he talked about freedom, limited government and so forth. I think he knocked that one out of the park. He got a great applause to when he said we shouldn't have gone into Iraq (I'll touch on that later).
Mike Huckabee: Mike seemed off tonight to me. He seemed like he wasn't all there. Maybe it was just my bad perception. Nonetheless, I think he did do well when he said that people always say the fair tax isn't possible, but why not think about making it possible? Fair point because people use the same line of reasoning against Ron Paul. Huckabee also had a few funny lines, but kind of got on my nerves when he stepped over the Social Security question and went back to make a funny statement (it wasn't funny though) to Mitt Romney.
Realistically, I don't really know who I think was the clear winner. Of course I'm inclined to say Ron Paul because he speaks truth and so forth while the rest spew rhetoric, but I don't think that be a fair assement at least on the grounds of an outsiders perspective. Sadly, with the view of an outsider (or a Florida voter), I'd probably look into Mitt Romney and say, "Hmmm, this guy is a business man and an outsider, maybe he can help us with the economy." But at least from my line of common sense, right after that, I'd go, "Ron Paul, he seems to make sense and doesn't seem like he's reading from a script. He may seem out there, but I'll look into him."
I was happy to see that Ron Paul got second with forty percent behind Romney's forty-one percent in the text messaging poll.
On a side note though, the Iraq question is intriguing. "Is the blood and treasure worth the sacrifice?" All with the exception of course of Ron Paul, said yes. I thought that was interesting and something to watch carefully in the general election. The Iraq War is still an underlining important issue to a lot of people and I just don't see how a Republican can win with that line of thinking. Like I said, Ron got great applause when he said that it wasn't worth it.
And holy shit, I really don't like Chris Matthews. The guy is a moron. The review of the debate with Matthews afterwards was almost worse than the debate itself. All he wanted to talk about was Hilary Clinton this and Hilary Clinton that. I could of sworn it was a Republican debate primarily.
Anyways, those are my thoughts, take it or leave it.
According to the msnbc opinion polls, Ron Paul came in second in the debate with 40%. Good for him. However, he always starts off strong due to his supporters calling in as soon as the debates are over. Long term, I don't know how much this trend is going to mean, but I doubt it will be enough. Neithr do I think he should be president.
Originally posted by BigRed
My review on the debate:My first initial reaction: CRAP. That debate was awful. I usually enjoy watching the Republican debates even though I can't stand listening to some of the contenders, but this debate was just hard to watch. My eyes were bleeding and my ears screaming. Nonetheless, the reason being: Tim Russert. Damn, I wanted to go into the television, grab him by the throat and shake him and ask him, "What the **** is wrong with you?" Was this a Republican Debate between five contenders or was this a debate between Tim and Romney? I mean come on. For a while there, Romney got like six questions in a row. He just kept going after him and so forth. It was very annoying and reptetious.
Anyways, I'll give a step-by-step review of how I think each candidate did from an outsiders perspective as best I can:
Mitt Romney: I thought Mitt did well like many of the pundits said afterwards. I think he got into his rhetoric a little too much, but I understand the necessity of introducing yourself to new voters in Florida and so forth that haven't been watching before. He obviously was trying to make himself stand out as the guy that can fix the economy being a business man and the guy of "change" (stealing Obama's favorite word) and the one that is the "outsider" to the fallen Washington. He positioned himself well. I'll give him credit.
John McCain: He did horrible in my opinion. There is no two ways about it. He tried to sway the conversation back to the Iraq War and national security and quite frankly, the Florida voters and the American people don't really care about that right now. The economy and taxes are a top issue. And evidently, McCain just isn't well versed on the economy. In the "candidates ask a question" segment, Ron Paul made McCain look like the economic fool that he is. McCain was looking lost and like a deer in the headlights. He started going back to R&R (Rhetoric and Repeat) talking about all the economic buddies he is surrounded by. But the truth of the matter is: he knows nothing about the economy and how to fix it.
Rudy Guiliani: I think Rudy did better than in previous debate showings. But again, I don't feel as if he has positioned himself apart from the other candidates and said, "This is why you should vote for me and this is why I should win Florida." He seemed like John McCain's twin of sorts. Although, I will say he had a fair point about taking New York's economy that was in shambles and turning it around. Fair point.
Ron Paul: Considering he didn't get hardly five minutes worth of questioning, I thought Ron Paul positioned himself well if people are paying attention. He speaks correctly of how the Republican party has lost their way and that he is the only true conservative left in the race. He like Romney IMO, positioned himself apart from everyone else. He gave clear reasons why. He talked intelligently about the economy, the reasons things are going bad and ways to get out. And my favorite part was at the end when he talked about freedom, limited government and so forth. I think he knocked that one out of the park. He got a great applause to when he said we shouldn't have gone into Iraq (I'll touch on that later).
Mike Huckabee: Mike seemed off tonight to me. He seemed like he wasn't all there. Maybe it was just my bad perception. Nonetheless, I think he did do well when he said that people always say the fair tax isn't possible, but why not think about making it possible? Fair point because people use the same line of reasoning against Ron Paul. Huckabee also had a few funny lines, but kind of got on my nerves when he stepped over the Social Security question and went back to make a funny statement (it wasn't funny though) to Mitt Romney.
Realistically, I don't really know who I think was the clear winner. Of course I'm inclined to say Ron Paul because he speaks truth and so forth while the rest spew rhetoric, but I don't think that be a fair assement at least on the grounds of an outsiders perspective. Sadly, with the view of an outsider (or a Florida voter), I'd probably look into Mitt Romney and say, "Hmmm, this guy is a business man and an outsider, maybe he can help us with the economy." But at least from my line of common sense, right after that, I'd go, "Ron Paul, he seems to make sense and doesn't seem like he's reading from a script. He may seem out there, but I'll look into him."
I was happy to see that Ron Paul got second with forty percent behind Romney's forty-one percent in the text messaging poll.
On a side note though, the Iraq question is intriguing. "Is the blood and treasure worth the sacrifice?" All with the exception of course of Ron Paul, said yes. I thought that was interesting and something to watch carefully in the general election. The Iraq War is still an underlining important issue to a lot of people and I just don't see how a Republican can win with that line of thinking. Like I said, Ron got great applause when he said that it wasn't worth it.
And holy shit, I really don't like Chris Matthews. The guy is a moron. The review of the debate with Matthews afterwards was almost worse than the debate itself. All he wanted to talk about was Hilary Clinton this and Hilary Clinton that. I could of sworn it was a Republican debate primarily.
Anyways, those are my thoughts, take it or leave it.
I greatly appreciate you taking the time to review that for us(me). I usually here about the debates at work from my coworker who is watching pretty much all of the debates.
Despite the fact that you are an obvious Ron Paul supporter, I think you did fine trying to present the information about the other candidates objectively.
Again, thanks for taking the time to review that for us(me).
Originally posted by Devil King
According to the msnbc opinion polls, Ron Paul came in second in the debate with 40%. Good for him. However, he always starts off strong due to his supporters calling in as soon as the debates are over. Long term, I don't know how much this trend is going to mean, but I doubt it will be enough. Neithr do I think he should be president.
That's actually what I thought after the debate too, I thought he got second place...and he did.
havent read through all this thread since my last visit so dont know if this has been discussed yet or not.if so,sorry for bringing it again but I dont want to go back and read through all this.well further proof that the elete do not want ron paul as president is in the new hampshire primarys.They committed election fraud by not allowing him to participate in the debates.they clearly dont want him as president so they are keeping him out of some of the primarys.He was on Jay Leno not too long ago and leno was saying-I thought that was really unfair how they did not allow you to participate in the new hampshire primarys.and he responded saying-yeah it was unfair what they did to me and I am following a lawsuit against them.dont know if he has followed through with it or not,hope he does but there is the proof that they do not want him to be the new president.
I see the fools who put in votes for that evil man Rudy G havent come forward since I asked the question who was it that put in there votes for that bastard to admit who they are that put in their votes for him.
pick your poison everyone. its all bad. apart from maybe one. who will never get in anyway, even if he did have top votes
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I don't think you know much about any of them.
This is the extent of knowledge:
"David says they evil, they EVIL.!"
Edit: I didn't see he's linking to Rense.com now, so he's listening to Jeff Rense too.