Republican Nomination?

Started by Admiral Akbar60 pages

Originally posted by chithappens
Uh huh, this matters why and to whom?

We all know how the game works by now

It matters to the Ron Paul supporters. They are glad he's still trying to get his message out, despite the fact that McCain has a 99.99% chance of winning.

I meant that in a sarcastic manner but it's so odd that McCain is winning to me.

What is his platform? I don't know much about him beyond all the lies about his "POW" experience.

Originally posted by chithappens
Uh huh, this matters why and to whom?

We all know how the game works by now

To the accuracy of his statement. Since...it is not official.

Originally posted by Bardock42
To the accuracy of his statement. Since...it is not official.

Honestly, once I saw McCain with Bush at the White House yesterday after they coined Bush the "Big Backer" that was it for me.

I haven't heard about a "Reublican race" in over a month.

Originally posted by chithappens
I meant that in a sarcastic manner but it's so odd that McCain is winning to me.

What is his platform? I don't know much about him beyond all the lies about his "POW" experience.

lol, yeah, for all you know he could have been well treated as a prisoner.

Originally posted by chithappens
Uh huh, this matters why and to whom?

We all know how the game works by now

Originally posted by Bardock42
To the accuracy of his statement. Since...it is not official.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE

Impressive.

Originally posted by BigRed
Of course they can. Anyone can. They are just less probable when you take what they say and their voting record that backs it up into consideration.

I have a tough time defining liberty lovers.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I have a tough time defining liberty lovers.

Is it because most of them operate on a level where their liberty means more than any one else's?

Originally posted by Devil King
Is it because most of them operate on a level where their liberty means more than any one else's?

Yep.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I used the term "liberal budget", and I had to explain to DK that I was using the term just because it's a pun. I make fun of conservatives as well. You jumped all over that statement of course because you think Democrats are God's gift to earth and you can't let a terminology tease them in any way (quite a surprise coming from someone who posts so many "jokes"😉.
Well, I found it a pretty stupid joke, seeing as it's ignorant and stupid.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Thank Alan Greenspan for the economic boom of the 90s. You were making Clinton responisible for the economy. Even worse, you were placing a direct correlation on the federal budget and the economy.
My bad?

Originally posted by Quark_666
I'd give the democratic Congresses a high F, as opposed to a Republican F. I don't like either party.
I don't like Republicans.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I don't try to make the same point over and over when the course of the conversation changes. My argument about the budget was consistent. My argument about the economy was consistent. My argument about Clinton was consistent. They went together nicely.
Interesting.

Originally posted by Quark_666
If you didn't notice, our conversation has switched emphasis a few times so naturally my argument (unlike yours) also shifted. Yours was the same thing over and over again. "The Democrats are wonderful!" "The Democrats are wonderful"

Give me a break.

What the **** kind of debate were you looking at? My argument is it's unfair to say it's the democrats fault, and then supplied my reasons why. Are you blind?

Originally posted by Quark_666
I have a tough time defining liberty lovers.

It's not that hard.

People that want to maximize freedom and limited government. Look at what they say and a voting record to back it up.

Now regular civilians are a bit harder, but still recognizable.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, I found it a pretty stupid joke, seeing as it's ignorant and stupid.

I think you've defined ignorant and stupid already. I said it was a pun. That doesn't mean I'm expecting you to roll onto the floor with laughter...normal people ignore puns. But if your feelings can't handle it, I'll decrease the fun I get at the expense of democrats.

Originally posted by lord xyz
My bad?

Well it certainly wasn't mine. As a matter of fact, it was a pretty retarded mistake on your part. You actually operated under the assumption that Congressional spending is inversely proportional to the stock market and glorified a political party for its fictitious benefits of a nation.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't like Republicans.

Because you are so incredibly qualified to make a ruling.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Interesting.

That is the lamest excuse for a response I've ever seen.

Originally posted by lord xyz
What the **** kind of debate were you looking at? My argument is it's unfair to say it's the democrats fault, and then supplied my reasons why. Are you blind?

No. Last I checked, nobody was saying everything was the democrat's fault, and I know only one person who says everything good is to their credit.

while i lost any will to support mccain after he bagan pandering to the looney fringe right, i feel that the 'straight talk express' may be just that: talk. im pretty comfortable in the thought that the neoconservative hijacking of our government may very well be drawing to a close, regardless of who wins in november.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I think you've defined ignorant and stupid already. I said it was a pun. That doesn't mean I'm expecting you to roll onto the floor with laughter...normal people ignore puns. But if your feelings can't handle it, I'll decrease the fun I get at the expense of democrats.
I'm sure you too would not ignore a very bad pun that is false. Besides, you could've just said "It was a pun." and nothing more.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Well it certainly wasn't mine. As a matter of fact, it was a pretty retarded mistake on your part. You actually operated under the assumption that Congressional spending is inversely proportional to the stock market and glorified a political party for its fictitious benefits of a nation.
The Budget is a part of the economy, I gave them credit for the budget, in effect, giving them credit for economy. I apoligise for not making that clear to you, but that's what I was doing.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Because you are so incredibly qualified to make a ruling.
What? I'm entitled to an opinion aren't I?

Originally posted by Quark_666
That is the lamest excuse for a response I've ever seen.
Possibly, but you saying that was still interesting.

Originally posted by Quark_666
No. Last I checked, nobody was saying everything was the democrat's fault, and I know only one person who says everything good is to their credit.
That "joke" you told was saying it's the liberals fault the economy is bad. I countered that with some contradictory evidence, then you got upset becuase I was defending the Democrats (which you must really hate) and said that I absolutely love them, which I don't, I just prefer them to Republicans.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I'm sure you too would not ignore a very bad pun that is false. Besides, you could've just said "It was a pun." and nothing more.

Point taken.

Originally posted by lord xyz
The Budget is a part of the economy, I gave them credit for the budget, in effect, giving them credit for economy. I apoligise for not making that clear to you, but that's what I was doing.

Buying a pack of gum at a local gas station is also part of the economy. You don't measure the economy by how often you do that though, do you? Likewise, Congressional spending can effect the economy, but posting data about the stock market proves nothing about Congressional spending.

Originally posted by lord xyz
What? I'm entitled to an opinion aren't I?

We're all entitled to an opinion, including my dog.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Possibly, but you saying that was still interesting.

Thank you.

Originally posted by lord xyz
That "joke" you told was saying it's the liberals fault the economy is bad.

Yeah, but I forgive me anyway.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I countered that with some contradictory evidence, then you got upset becuase I was defending the Democrats (which you must really hate)

I wouldn't use the word "upset", and my response had nothing to do with the fact that you were defending democrats. In fact I agreed that Republicans have been even worse with the budget than democrats recently (certainly since Reagan left office). My response was more aimed at the fact that you thought you could just look at the stock market and find conclusive data on Congress.

Originally posted by lord xyz
and said that I absolutely love them, which I don't, I just prefer them to Republicans.

As does everyone sometimes.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Point taken.

Buying a pack of gum at a local gas station is also part of the economy. You don't measure the economy by how often you do that though, do you? Likewise, Congressional spending can effect the economy, but posting data about the stock market proves nothing about Congressional spending.

I don't think I mentioned the stock market.

Originally posted by Quark_666
We're all entitled to an opinion, including my dog.
So why do you regard mine as me making a ruling?

Originally posted by Quark_666
Thank you.
lol

Originally posted by Quark_666
Yeah, but I forgive me anyway.
So you admit you were wrong in saying that no one said it's the democrat's fault? Seeing as quite clearly, you said it was the democrats fault.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I wouldn't use the word "upset", and my response had nothing to do with the fact that you were defending democrats. In fact I agreed that Republicans have been even worse with the budget than democrats recently (certainly since Reagan left office). My response was more aimed at the fact that you thought you could just look at the stock market and find conclusive data on Congress.
I don't recall me mentioning the stock market. I do recall you claiming me to loving the democrats, as a response against me saying they're better than the republicans.

Originally posted by Quark_666
As does everyone sometimes.
Yes.

Originally posted by lord xyz
So you admit you were wrong in saying that no one said it's the democrat's fault? Seeing as quite clearly, you said it was the democrats fault.
Yes, I admit I was wrong.

Originally posted by lord xyz
So why do you regard mine as me making a ruling?
I hope you are aware that I don’t actually have much fun explaining all this stuff too you.

Making a ruling isn’t a bad thing…it’s just the same as an opinion. Some people like to reserve that term for certain procedures in the law. Many don’t. I’m one of the many.

My criticism stemmed from bias on my part. It originated from things you have said about American politics and American politicians that are entirely wrong. It was excusable (mostly) in your case because you are talking about politics that are foreign to you, but unless you've researched a bunch since then, you are still misinformed.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't think I mentioned the stock market.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't recall me mentioning the stock market. I do recall you claiming me to loving the democrats, as a response against me saying they're better than the republicans.
I suppose your mistake is innocent enough.

When people refer to fluctuations in the economy, they are usually referring to the stock market. You were referring to fluctuations in the economy. If you'd care to post the site where you got your data and it refers to the numbers for Congressional spending, I'd be happy to apologize and revoke my claims that your data isn't applicable.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Yes, I admit I was wrong.

I hope you are aware that I don’t actually have much fun explaining all this stuff too you.

Making a ruling isn’t a bad thing…it’s just the same as an opinion. Some people like to reserve that term for certain procedures in the law. Many don’t. I’m one of the many.

My criticism stemmed from bias on my part. It originated from things you have said about American politics and American politicians that are entirely wrong. It was excusable (mostly) in your case because you are talking about politics that are foreign to you, but unless you've researched a bunch since then, you are still misinformed.

How was I entirely wrong? I showed to you that the democrats did good in the budget, and thus, the economy.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I suppose your mistake is innocent enough.

When people refer to fluctuations in the economy, they are usually referring to the stock market. You were referring to fluctuations in the economy. If you'd care to post the site where you got your data and it refers to the numbers for Congressional spending, I'd be happy to apologize and revoke my claims that your data isn't applicable.

http://tvnewslies.org/bushbudget.gif here is the budget