Ryu and Kazuya Mishima vs Heihachi Mishima and Akuma

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Ryu and Kazuya Mishima vs Heihachi Mishima and Akuma

Two of videogame's most lethal styles go head-to-head in Tekken 4's steel cage.

Ryu fights Heihachi (in his own gi, not in the sumo diaper), while Kazuya fights Akuma.

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kazuya and ryu ftw

Sado22 Restricted

akuma will kill kazuya. i'm mean no kidding. kill, murder.
Hachi will kill ryu.

bye bye original heroes of SF and Tekken. 🙁

~The Sobbing Sado-sama

Remulous Frisky Wolf Lord

Heihachi and Gouki. Kazuya can possibly beat Heuhachi but not Gouki but Ryu can beat Heihachi too. But Gouki can beat both of them.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

At this point, Gouki could probably beat the entire Tekken cast solo. He might have to go Shin, but he'd win. He's just that damn good. Hell, God Rugal has been the only boss short of Orochi to be at his level. (There's also Unsealed Oro, but that's a wild card). The old guys win in a landslide.

Sado22 Restricted

At this point, Gouki could probably beat the entire Tekken cast solo. He might have to go Shin, but he'd win. He's just that damn good. Hell, God Rugal has been the only boss short of Orochi to be at his level. (There's also Unsealed Oro, but that's a wild card). The old guys win in a landslide.

I'd agree with you if you're talking only of the regular cast of Tekken and not hachi, Kazuya, Jin, Jinpachi, Devil Jin, Devil and OGre. they are the high tiers and the godtiers of the series. Heck once T5 was over, in his ending Jinpachi was going to destroy the world! Gouki isn't that powerful yet. Also Devil jin was able to destroy a whole forest with his laser beam. Again damn powerful.
otherwise, agreed.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Sado22 Restricted

Heihachi and Gouki. Kazuya can possibly beat Heuhachi but not Gouki but Ryu can beat Heihachi too. But Gouki can beat both of them.

i seriously doubt hachi would lose to Ryu. canonwise Ryu is very powerful and all, but while the most ryu could do with his punches was send people flying, Hachi can not only do that, he can also send people and robots flying but also shatter 8foot armor plated robots to bits. not to mention surviving the honmaru blast which practically exploded in his face! nothing Ryu can do comes close in all honesty. Ryu can smack off parts of buildings and was still unable to defeat Zangeif.

~The INvincible Sado-sama

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Zangief? Do you mean the Street FIghter Alpha? You must have a very selective memory. During that scene Ryu didn't actually aim the Mesatsu Go hadou at Zangief because it would have killed Zangief. That's the whole point of the Dark Hadou. Once he unleashed the move on something alive with the thought of winning no matter what even if it means becoming a murderer He would've fallen on Akuma's footsteps like Gouki did when he murderered Gotetsu and Gouken. Case in point had Ryu not held himself back Zangief would have become dust before Ryu's eyes.

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Heihachi beats Kazuya as he's done twice before.

Akuma thrashes Ryu.

They win.

If it's Ryu vs. Heihachi, it lasts a good bit...not 1 second. However, Akuma/Kazuya WILL be 1 second. Then he helps Heihachi beat Ryu.

Remulous Frisky Wolf Lord

Originally posted by Sado22
i seriously doubt hachi would lose to Ryu. canonwise Ryu is very powerful and all, but while the most ryu could do with his punches was send people flying, Hachi can not only do that, he can also send people and robots flying but also shatter 8foot armor plated robots to bits. not to mention surviving the honmaru blast which practically exploded in his face! nothing Ryu can do comes close in all honesty. Ryu can smack off parts of buildings and was still unable to defeat Zangeif.

~The INvincible Sado-sama

Dude when it comes to you Ryu always loses.

Sado22 Restricted

Zangief? Do you mean the Street FIghter Alpha? You must have a very selective memory. During that scene Ryu didn't actually aim the Mesatsu Go hadou at Zangief because it would have killed Zangief. That's the whole point of the Dark Hadou. Once he unleashed the move on something alive with the thought of winning no matter what even if it means becoming a murderer He would've fallen on Akuma's footsteps like Gouki did when he murderered Gotetsu and Gouken. Case in point had Ryu not held himself back Zangief would have become dust before Ryu's eyes.

err...of course you don't remember that ryu was laid out by Zangeif and only once that zangeif attacked Shun did Ryu get of the ground........and that too because he become evil ryu. and that is when what you say happened.
fact remains.......normal ryu was laid out, became evil ryu and was about the kill zangeif hadn't been for Ken who yelled at him to make him snap out of it.

Dude when it comes to you Ryu always loses.

my opinion............when did the policies of KMC state something of agreeing with everybody?

~The Perfectly Operating Memory Sado-sama

Superboy Prime Fanboy

Actually I do remember the entire fight. I commented on your post because you stated Ryu was destroying buildings and still couldn't beat Zangief. You made it seem as if Ryu was a moron that couldn't hit anything. Hence why I replied about him missing on purpose once he recovered some of his senses.

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Dude when it comes to you Ryu always loses.

SO NOT TRUE!
He can beat Bao...and...Gon....and...Mokujin.....and...and....
😄

not but seriously though, Ryu can beat a lot of people. I just don't see him beat someone like Hachi or Kazuya and i already explained why.
Nice sig picture by the way!
"BANA COOL"

~The FairMinded Sado-sama

Remulous Frisky Wolf Lord

Originally posted by Sado22

my opinion............when did the policies of KMC state something of agreeing with everybody?

~The Perfectly Operating Memory Sado-sama

I understand that but show the character some friggen respect some time.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by Sado22
err...of course you don't remember that ryu was laid out by Zangeif and only once that zangeif attacked Shun did Ryu get of the ground........and that too because he become evil ryu. and that is when what you say happened.
fact remains.......normal ryu was laid out, became evil ryu and was about the kill zangeif hadn't been for Ken who yelled at him to make him snap out of it.
Ryu was never KOed was he?. Laid out is KOed. He got slammed & then he got pissed. You reeealy underestimate Ryu mane.[/B][/QUOTE]
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
At this point, Gouki could probably beat the entire Tekken cast solo. He might have to go Shin, but he'd win. He's just that damn good. Hell, God Rugal has been the only boss short of Orochi to be at his level. (There's also Unsealed Oro, but that's a wild card). The old guys win in a landslide.
Ditto

Sado22 Restricted

Ryu was never KOed was he?. Laid out is KOed. He got slammed & then he got pissed. You reeealy underestimate Ryu mane.

no he got slammed and was laid out as in "wasn't going to get up anytime soon". then dark hadou took over him cuz Shun started screaming like b!tch.
I don't really underestimate Ryu. its funny how Ore-sama actually gives a REASON as to why someone would beat Ryu. come to think of it no one here has given their reasons yet.
i already mentioned why i think Hachi would clobber ryu. i said he's definitely more powerful and was able to surive the honmaru blast...all that right after getting his @$$ beaten the crap out of by Jin Kazama. While ryu could only send people flying, Hachi was sending 8Foot armor plated robots flying.........with utterly shattered bodies or some that were torn in half.

I understand that but show the character some friggen respect some time.

respect? if i wasn't respecting Ryu i would say "ryu is a little whore who'd get killed. hachi would bend him over and shove his fat old cock up his @$$."
that would be disrespect.
saying this:
canonwise Ryu is very powerful and all, but while the most ryu could do with his punches was send people flying, Hachi can not only do that, he can also send people and robots flying but also shatter 8foot armor plated robots to bits.

is being respectful but with my own opinion where despite having respect for Ryu i just don't see him winnning.

you wanna talk disrespect to a whole game, try this for size:

At this point, Gouki could probably beat the entire Tekken cast solo. He might have to go Shin, but he'd win. He's just that damn good. Hell, God Rugal has been the only boss short of Orochi to be at his level. (There's also Unsealed Oro, but that's a wild card). The old guys win in a landslide.

or remulus you yourself saying that godtiers of non-SF games aren't as tough as SF games, or brainy you claiming that anyone terry has faced is not godtier enough from SF standards and is where he is thanx to jobbing, and how Tekken cast is not enough to take on one gouki.
however if i don't think Ryu can't win against people, by giving reasons that is not respectful.
So this is what they call shifting the blame huh?😉

~The Invincible Sado-sama

brainchild81 Privateer

I didn't say godtier from SF standards. Said Godtier period. Don't put words in my mouth mane.🙁 Not cool. Terry hasn't beat anyone that Akuma wouldn't flat out murder. Truth

Sado22 Restricted

I didn't say godtier from SF standards. Said Godtier period. Don't put words in my mouth mane. Not cool. Terry hasn't beat anyone that Akuma wouldn't flat out murder. Truth

wanna bet?
a big paragraph on the 3rd page of Ryu versus Terry Bogard thread by you says just that....or was it "today's standard" which basically is a euphemism for SF standards anyway.

and Ryu hasn't beaten anyone that terry can't flat out beat either.
Nonserious Gouki would be killed by Nightmare Geese. Akuma has never been impressive against other godtiers anyway....Oro, Gouken, Gen. in fact, Gouken and Gen even beat him once each.
Ryu fought Gouki in SFA2 when he wasn't even being serious and was just testing him. Terry can do the same....since he has beaten godtiers before while ryu hasn't.
FACT ONE: Terry beat godtiers, be it jobbing from your highness' standards or not.
FACT TWO: Ryu has not even beaten high tiers, be it jobbing, blowjobbing or capcom's retardness.
FACTS REMAIN FACTS.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

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Originally posted by Sado22
and Ryu hasn't beaten anyone that terry can't flat out beat either.

Prove it

Originally posted by Sado22
Nonserious Gouki would be killed by Nightmare Geese.

Prove it

Originally posted by Sado22
Akuma has never been impressive against other godtiers anyway....Oro, Gouken, Gen. in fact, Gouken and Gen even beat him once each.

Akuma killed Gouken, and we don't know if Gen beat him or not, But it was confirmed that Akuma defeated Gen first. Gouki drew even with Oro, and defeated Gill.

Originally posted by Sado22
Ryu fought Gouki in SFA2 when he wasn't even being serious and was just testing him. Terry can do the same....since he has beaten godtiers before while ryu hasn't.

FF tiers arn't the same as SF tiers, and I've said this before, Ryu defeated sagat, defeated Bison, defeated Akuma (Non serious, but nonetheless, thats a noteworthy accomplishment considering Akuma wasn't fully riding the breaks then.)

Originally posted by Sado22
FACT ONE: Terry beat godtiers, be it jobbing from your highness' standards or not.

This tier bullshit is irrlevant... how can you compare tiers from one game and crossrefference thm with another?

Originally posted by Sado22
FACT TWO: Ryu has not even beaten high tiers, be it jobbing, blowjobbing or capcom's retardness.
FACTS REMAIN FACTS.

Oh, so now you judge who is on what Tier in SF? please... Ryu's DP was the thing that destroyed Bison in A3, Ryu did stop Akuma, he defeated Sagat, and impressed Oro.

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Prove it

oh so now ore-sama is required to come up with proof that a person from one game can beat one from another......and yet you all have been going on and on about how Gouki would smash practically anyone from other games. sounds fair.
okay but since you want one:
lets compare feets:
-has Ryu beaten a hightier? no
-has ryu defeated godtier? no
-has Terry defeated hightiers? yes
-has Terry defeated godtiers? yes
so isn't that proof enough that Terry is superior as a fighter?

Prove it

Logic.
Ryu, a uppertier but by no means a hightier defeated non-serious Gouki (and thanx for the heads up for that one by the way). correct?
Nightmare Geese is godtier. correct?
so if non-serious gouki lost to non-hightier Ryu, and it took Terry Bogard to go beserker to defeat godtier Nightmare Geese, making Terry as berserker a hightier or possibly godtier. correct?
hence Nightmare Geese>>nonserious Akuma
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Akuma killed Gouken, and we don't know if Gen beat him or not, But it was confirmed that Akuma defeated Gen first. Gouki drew even with Oro, and defeated Gill.

Gouken defeated Gouki. then Gouki killed Gouken when Gouken was too old to be at Gouki's level.
Gouki stalemated against Gen in SFA2 (but Gen saw it as defeat since akuma left him). one year later, Gen defeated him in SFA3 as is now generally believed to be true...further confirmed by Tiamat.
Gouki failed to impress Oro.
Gill wasn't even killed by Gouki...not to mention how he just showed up and did the sgs to him like he always does for kicks.

FF tiers arn't the same as SF tiers, and I've said this before, Ryu defeated sagat, defeated Bison, defeated Akuma (Non serious, but nonetheless, thats a noteworthy accomplishment considering Akuma wasn't fully riding the breaks then.

a little above you were asking for proof for me saying something like that, weren't you?
Ryu cheapshotted Sagat and stop making it sound like it was a fair win.
Ryu didn't defeat bison since it was only YOUR opinion. doesn't count.
Ryu defeated Akuma who was toying around testing Ryu...though i admit it was impressive, it hardly counts as a legimate win since Gouki wasn't serious.

This tier bullshit is irrlevant... how can you compare tiers from one game and crossrefference thm with another?

and YET a few lines up your commenting on how FF godtiers are not up to the SF godtiers. get real DSZ.

Oh, so now you judge who is on what Tier in SF? please... Ryu's DP was the thing that destroyed Bison in A3, Ryu did stop Akuma, he defeated Sagat, and impressed Oro.

oh wait so YOU can but i can't. please.
stop contradicting yourself.
again:
-Ryu didnot destroy Bison
-Ryu cheapshotted Sagat
-Ryu lost to Sagat in SFA3 as Psycho Ryu
-Ryu DID impress Oro, but Oro wasn't serious
-Ryu beat non-serious Akuma who was only testing Ryu
-Ryu did NOT STOP Akuma (where did you get that anyway)

Terry Board:
-beat Nightmare Geese in a life and death match
-beat godtier Krauser by outlasting him
-beat Jin twins by outlasting them (and of course brainy will pop his head up and say that Geese helped him, yet i dare to ask you what it means to fight two hightiers at the same damn time...probably somewhere around the level of godtier don't it?)
-beat Geese in a life and death match who is hightier

~The Invincible Sado-sama