Silver Surfer Runs The Gauntlet?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
he defeated Thor by constantly hitting him, however Surfer later revealed that Thor was holding back.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
So Surfer killed the Avengers, and Ego destroyed Galactus...

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thor didn't have an upgrade, he just had the power of the writer.

Originally posted by bigbran
Yes, SURFER revealed this.

Nope, but that has nothing to do with what you said.
Surfer said Thor was more powerful. Thor said that Surfer could destroy them all. Neither was shown.

No, I'm talking about WM.

Yes.

Thor has been shown to be the more powerful of the two, he's bested him in each of their battles except the first in which Surfer had an upgrade and Thor was holding back.

I know.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yes.

Thor has been shown to be the more powerful of the two, he's bested him in each of their battles except the first in which Surfer had an upgrade and Thor was holding back.

I know.

I know it was said in comics... just you wait...

Originally posted by bigbran
Wait, so that means, he only bested him once?

I know it was said in comics... just you wait...

Yes, Thor has a few on Surfer in Blood and Thunder but I only count their first in the arc.

I don't believe so.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yes, Thor has a few on Surfer in Blood and Thunder but I only count their first in the arc.

I don't believe so.

When someone can only hit a WM three times in there lifetime, before they die, does that sound fair to anyone fighting him?
It is obviously special, and this is also obviously not just a "PISSED" Thor. Thor can get mad all he likes, but he can only hit WM three times. It isn't even the same as him being bloodlusted.

I'll keep looking.

Originally posted by bigbran
Ya, in that arc.
Let me ask you a question though.

When someone can only hit a WM three times in there lifetime, before they die, does that sound fair to anyone fighting him?
It is obviously special, and this is also obviously not just a "PISSED" Thor. Thor can get mad all he likes, but he can only hit WM three times. It isn't even the same as him being bloodlusted.

I'll keep looking.

Warrior Madness has never really been explained. I see it as his version of rabies or something like that.

Let us not forget that one of the Surfers supposed 'losses' against Thor was after he was greatly weakened by an opponent shortly before. The sonic shark or something along those lines, if I recall correctly.

This downgrade was even greater than the one Galactus imposed upon him.

Now that the Surfer has reached NEW heights of power, comparing him to the Surfer of olde, where not only was he without an upgrade, he was actually DOWN graded, is a bit innane.

Thor> Surfer

He has beaten Surfer, but Surfer havn't beaten him yet.

Originally posted by dvampire
Thor> Surfer

He has beaten Surfer, but Surfer havn't beaten him yet.

And when did Firelord beat Spiderman?

😕

And when did superman beat a petrol station? Let's not flog a dead horse. Surfer is in probability higher than Thor. Keep going off on how Thor has beaten surfer with WM, and the hulk fanboys are going to say that Hulk>Thor soon.

Originally posted by Soljer
And when did Firelord beat Spiderman?

😕

And when did Thing beat Surfer? 😕

Originally posted by Ouallada
And when did superman beat a petrol station? Let's not flog a dead horse. Surfer is in probability higher than Thor. Keep going off on how Thor has beaten surfer with WM, and the hulk fanboys are going to say that Hulk>Thor soon.

Thor has beaten Surfer, it doesn't matter what he was. It's not like he got an upgrade.

Thor has beaten Surfer.

But that's not the point - when using DIRECT comparisons between two characters like that, a lot is lost due to levelling.

Look at how either deals with the Hulk. The Hulk hits Thor, Thor feels it. The Hulk hits the Surfer, the Surfer doesn't bat an eye, and instead goes off on one of his 'pacifist' tirades.

Look at the cosmic might the Surfer's displayed against...you know...a unipowered gladiator? Look at how the Surfer's casually one-shotted planets and created black holes? How he casually dodges meteors whilst going many times the speed of light?

Direct comparisons? Which are notoriously and inherently inaccurate? Thor > Surfer.

Feats, feats, and more feats?

Surfer >> Thor.

Originally posted by Soljer
Thor has beaten Surfer.

But that's not the point - when using DIRECT comparisons between two characters like that, a lot is lost due to levelling.

Look at how either deals with the Hulk. The Hulk hits Thor, Thor feels it. The Hulk hits the Surfer, the Surfer doesn't bat an eye, and instead goes off on one of his 'pacifist' tirades.

Look at the cosmic might the Surfer's displayed against...you know...a unipowered gladiator? Look at how the Surfer's casually one-shotted planets and created black holes? How he casually dodges meteors whilst going many times the speed of light?

Direct comparisons? Which are notoriously and inherently inaccurate? Thor > Surfer.

Feats, feats, and more feats?

Surfer >> Thor.

Now look at how Thor koed Surfer? Look at how Thanos koed Surfer? Thor has trouble fighting against Hulk, because he actually goes into h2h combat with him. Surfer doesn't. That's the big difference between them. Look at the might Thor displayed against Zeus. That's skill and strength. Surfer can dodge meteors all he wants, Thor could do the same thing. Point is, when Surfer was fighting Thor, Thor was the fastest of the two.

Again, Thor has beaten Surfer, and is always protrayed as the strongest, no matter how cool you think Surfer is.

Again, Thor wins.

Originally posted by Soljer
Thor has beaten Surfer.

But that's not the point - when using DIRECT comparisons between two characters like that, a lot is lost due to levelling.

Look at how either deals with the Hulk. The Hulk hits Thor, Thor feels it. The Hulk hits the Surfer, the Surfer doesn't bat an eye, and instead goes off on one of his 'pacifist' tirades.

Look at the cosmic might the Surfer's displayed against...you know...a unipowered gladiator? Look at how the Surfer's casually one-shotted planets and created black holes? How he casually dodges meteors whilst going many times the speed of light?

Direct comparisons? Which are notoriously and inherently inaccurate? Thor > Surfer.

Feats, feats, and more feats?

Surfer >> Thor.

Multiple times, a few times even to the point of nearly ending Surfers life.

This logic is just as easily flawed as direct comparisons, actually more so. I could easily ask who's fared better against Galactus.

Look at how Thor has bested Ego, or Galactus. The power and valor it took to stalemate Zeus or defeat Mephisto. The durability and power required to hold off Surtur or Hela. The might it took to stalemate the Stranger, or a Celestial.

This can be done all day, however it will develop into nothing.

Feats

Thor = Surfer

Originally posted by Soljer
Let us not forget that one of the Surfers supposed 'losses' against Thor was after he was greatly weakened by an opponent shortly before. The sonic shark or something along those lines, if I recall correctly.

This downgrade was even greater than the one Galactus imposed upon him.

Now that the Surfer has reached NEW heights of power, comparing him to the Surfer of olde, where not only was he without an upgrade, he was actually DOWN graded, is a bit innane.

Again you ignore that Surfer blatantly stated he was more powerful than ever before. Your speculations hold no weight when the comic specifically states otherwise.

Yet it was stated he was more powerful than "e'er" before. 🙄

Surfer hasn't even gained a power up. Mental blocks and remorse were removed. He was given back his will to fight, something never has or will lose.

The funny thing is that in their first fight not only was it established that Thor was more powerful(directly stated), but that Mjolnir is Surfer equal or near equal in speed.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Again you ignore that Surfer blatantly stated he was more powerful than ever before. Your speculations hold no weight when the comic specifically states otherwise.

Yet it was stated he was more powerful than "e'er" before. 🙄

Surfer hasn't even gained a power up. Mental blocks and remorse were removed. He was given back his will to fight, something never has or will lose.

The funny thing is that in their first fight not only was it established that Thor was more powerful(directly stated), but that Mjolnir is Surfer equal or near equal in speed.

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