America

Originally posted by soin2cal
What i meant was this, when you are LIVING in the US, your residing in the USA. Therefore your residence is there.I am confusing you, but i still know what i am talking about, just arent as great as expaining over here.
Again, i said you are not a legal citizen until you have spent so many years there. But you are still a resident right, beforehand?

Residing in a country does not make you a citizen, nor does it grant you resident status - you're just simply living there.

There is a difference between being a resident of a place - i.e. simply living there - and having legal resident status.

Originally posted by PVS
well...

...damnit 🙁

Exception granted for you.

Originally posted by Lana
Residing in a country does not make you a citizen, nor does it grant you resident status - you're just simply living there.

There is a difference between being a resident of a place - i.e. simply living there - and having legal resident status.

Yes true, but both are still in relation to what im talking about, just like where i am now, im residing here. But yes i have permanent citizenship also until i leave😛

Exactly. Therefore i would not be a proper citizen of the US until another couple of years of living there, which is what i meant🙂
Id still be residing/living there however. I would still say it was my home, just wouldnt have legal citenship.

Originally posted by soin2cal
Yes true, but both are still in relation to what im talking about, just like where i am now, im residing here. But yes i have permanent citizenship also until i leave😛

Exactly. Therefore i would not be a proper citizen of the US until another couple of years of living there, which is what i meant🙂
Id still be residing/living there however. I would still say it was my home, just wouldnt have legal citenship.

EDIT - sorry im asking you lana this question😖

Originally posted by soin2cal
Does this sound more correct😛? I do know what you mean and i also know what you have to go through to be a legal citizenship of a countr 😎 y. People have residence as soon as they move somewhere then?

EDIT - sorry im asking you lana this question😖

Actually, if you move to another country, you remain a citizen of your original home until you become a citizen of your new home.

And it's not as simple as simply becoming a citizen after living there a few years; there's tons of paperwork and background checks involved, plus you have to take a citizenship test. In the US anyway.

No, you don't have legal residence as soon as you move somewhere; usually you go on a visa, and then need to file a bunch of paperwork and such before you can get residence status and it can take a while.

Thats exact!

Just like my family whom arent legal citizens just yet, though they classify it being their new home, more than here, and its true, just like myself, even though im not living there just yet. You still have your home at heart which can be somewhere your not living at😛
Maybe i should have explained it more clearly, but thats geenrally what i was meaning🙂 Though once your in the country, its your home, just not legally.
Yes, i believe you lose your previous country citizenship/where you were living before, after those few years.
Oh no, its so hard i heard! But thats only becaue of the amount that do go in without going to getting legal citizenship, which ruins it for everyone else. I will always feel my homes more over there more than here, always. I should not have so much of a problem getting in either if my cousin is there. In fact many people that are living here, never classify it a being their true home.
Please excuse my mistakes!

Originally posted by PiruBlood
no country is perfect. im 100% american but the whole freedom of speech issue is bs in my view. i mean if we are entitled to say what we want ok then go call mr gerogre w bush so i can cuss him out. but oviously id be in prison for that. so many of are amendmants and rights are strictley limited.

...you should really find a better example. Especially since there's only two ways you could go to jail for cussing him out:

1.) If you somehow got the number for the direct line to the phone on his desk at the White House. Since that's confidential, for a civ to get it would mean you or someone working with you was snooping around where they really, really shouldn't be.

2.) If you simply left several messages on a weekly basis on the answering machine at his home. Since it would be numerous repeat offenses, it'd count as harassment, and you COULD get into legal trouble if he felt like going through all the effort of nailing you for something so small.

I mean good god man, do you just magically miss the scores of people that appear on the news with crap like "Bush is a nazi" or "Bush is a murderer," accuse him of treason, lying to the public, demand he be impeached or hanged (for the treason)? They're kinda hard to miss, because they're constantly shouting and apparently have a hard-on for giant placards with big, bold red letters.

If they aren't jailed, I'd say the chances of someone like you getting locked up for calling him mean names are pretty slim to none.

Now, as to the point of the amendments being "strictly limited," I've got a homework assignment for you:

Barring the Amendments that started and abolished Prohibition, you give me any 5 Amendments that you say are "strictly limited" and tell me why. If you can come up with a full 5, and I can't disprove them, then I'll go ahead and give that nonsensical paragraph of yours some credibility, 'kay?

Originally posted by BobbyD
All I've got to say is there are so few countries in the world, and perhaps none that tolerate as much BS as the US.

When I take in account that illegal immigrants can still somehow get benefits, religious tolerance, freedom of speech, and that an idiot can get a job in this country because that person is a minority over a better more skilled candidate, I think there are fewer better countries, if any, in the world to live in.

😉

How many others have you been to? as many Americans hae never left it

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
How many others have you been to? as many Americans hae never left it

There are only two countries that can (sanely) be driven to from the US so traveling isn't as easy as in the rest of the world.

Plenty of people never leave the nation they were born in American or not.

Peoples own choices to say if theyre proudly american citizens or not😛

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There are only two countries that can (sanely) be driven to from the US so traveling isn't as easy as in the rest of the world.

Plenty of people never leave the nation they were born in American or not.

Yeah fair enough. But I don't think anyone should be able to say right America's the best without having been to any other country. I mean I live in Britain n yeah it's alright but I'd far rather live in some of the other countries I've been to.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yeah fair enough. But I don't think anyone should be able to say right America's the best without having been to any other country. I mean I live in Britain n yeah it's alright but I'd far rather live in some of the other countries I've been to.

Seeing a few country's is a lot different then living there. When I've been to the US I've seen some beautiful places and some places that actually freaking suck. Only way to find out is by actually living there 🙂

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yeah fair enough. But I don't think anyone should be able to say right America's the best without having been to any other country. I mean I live in Britain n yeah it's alright but I'd far rather live in some of the other countries I've been to.

Same here ermm

Amerka is duh besk !

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yeah fair enough. But I don't think anyone should be able to say right America's the best without having been to any other country. I mean I live in Britain n yeah it's alright but I'd far rather live in some of the other countries I've been to.

I don't actually think that it matters whether you went there yourself. If you discovered facts in other ways and drew the logical conclusions I see their opinion as valid.

Precisely Bardock🙂

I think people on this forum that have been to 1 or 2 countries aside from their own seem to feel some sense of superiority to those that haven't.

Visiting a country for a week is not the same as living there, and you will still have no idea what that country is like.

Originally posted by Kinneary
I think people on this forum that have been to 1 or 2 countries aside from their own seem to feel some sense of superiority to those that haven't.

Visiting a country for a week is not the same as living there, and you will still have no idea what that country is like.

Me having been to about 15 must say: "I don't!"

Ironic.

Indeed.

Bardock- i like your speech😄

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