Marrow Vs. Elektra

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Weapon X issue 12. Sabretooth doesn't rip into her gut... aside from raking her with his claws and slamming her around a bit, he doesn't do much of anything.

No...

It was a bloody battle where they were taking chunks out of each other. Marrow was cutting him up with her claws and vice versa with Sabretooth. However Creed had the upper hand being much stronger, faster, more skilled and having a better healing factor (in some ways).

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
and Kevlar is something like four times stronger then steel, if memory serves. 😕

No. It's not. It's basic common sense. Have you ever even seen or held Kevlar? It's basically a very tough piece of cloth-plastic mesh. Steel (most grades) is more bulletproof than Kevlar. It's stronger, tougher in every way than Kevlar. If I had to choose a steel door or Kevlar vest, I would choose the steel door...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When has Marrow every popped a significant amount of body in a split second?

Numerous times following her Skrull upgrade....and even more following her Weapon X upgrade.

Not prior because she had absolutely no control over her bones.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When she fought Wolverine? No.

That's because their fight was PRIOR to her Skrull upgrade. She had absolutely NO control over her bones prior to that event. She could only at the very best make them somewhat shaped like daggers. She couldn't form body armour at that period.

Your knowledge of Marrow is severely outdated.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When she fought Spider-man? No.

AGAIN. PRIOR to the Skrull upgrade....

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When she fought Abomination? No.

AGAIN, PRIOR to the Skrull upgrade.

You clearly didn't read these comics. You probably went to UncannyX-Men.net or Wikipedia to make up for it....

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When she "fought" Agent Zero? No.

This "fight" (more like Agent Zero came at her from behind when she didn't expect it and was strangling her....) took place when Marrow's powers were growing out of control again without the Weapon X treatments. Her bones were popping out of her skull again and she was losing her hair.....

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When she fought Sabretooth? No.

Again. I've already stated, Marrow had no intention of using her abilities to her best at that time. She wanted to settle gladiator-style with only one weapon (her claws). Nothing else. COULD she have armoured up and porcupined herself? Absolutely. Did she want to? No. She wanted to beat Sabretooth at his own game and prove to him that she was the "alpha".

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And she isn't that fast, she has enhanced agility and strength but what has she ever done that would even put her on equal footing with Elektra?

I don't think you have the right an opinion on Marrow's speed and agility since you don't have correct knowledge about either her powers or her history for that matter.

Her speed allows to dodge bullets and keep up with Spider-Man. That's more than enough to keep with Elektra.

Your argument rests on Elektra throwing a sai at her before Marrow can react.

Let's say that happens for some reason.

IT WON'T WORK.

Bones skewer her body all the time. They come out of her stomach. They come out her chest. They come out her skull. They even come out her eyes. A sai through the chest or head won't be ANY different from a bone ripping through her skull or through her chest as it always does. Her bone anatomy is the same as ours. They just grow at insane rates and they come in different shapes.

Marrow regularly has to skewer her self with a bone to pull out a "bad" bone that's not growing right. Hell, once she opened up her own chest and ripped out a piece of her ribcage that was poking her heart.

Simply put, her healing factor is insane. Close distance or long distance, however Elektra wants to play it. She'll lose either way....

and Kevlar is something like four times stronger then steel, if memory serves.

Lol wtf?

Originally posted by Draco69
It was a bloody battle where they were taking chunks out of each other. Marrow was cutting him up with her claws and vice versa with Sabretooth. However Creed had the upper hand being much stronger, faster, more skilled and having a better healing factor (in some ways).

This is what happens. Marrow pops some claws to geode Sabretooth into fighting her, and Sabretooth decides that he is game. The perspective jumps the the Director in his office and then back to the "fight" and Marrow now has some claw rakes across her clothing. She lunges at Sabretooth but he easily catches her. Marrow releases some bones from her wrists, which in turn puncture Sabretooth's hands but little more then irritate him. Sabs breaks Marrow's bone claws by slamming her into a wall and then gets her in a bare young and starts playing against Marrow's vanity. Perspective jumps to Cable and then finally back to Sabs in Marrow. Marrow somehow manages to get lose and then opens some water vent and it flushes Sabretooth away.

Go read the issue (Weapon X 12), I'll be right here when you get back.

Originally posted by Draco69
No. It's not. It's basic common sense. Have you ever even seen or held Kevlar? It's basically a very tough piece of cloth-plastic mesh. Steel (most grades) is more bulletproof than Kevlar. It's stronger, tougher in every way than Kevlar. If I had to choose a steel door or Kevlar vest, I would choose the steel door...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevlar

Is that accurate? I don't know but it says that per weight Kevlar is five (I had heard four before... but I guess that was wrong) times stronger then steel. But I guess you are the authority on bullet proof vests. 🙁

Originally posted by Draco69
Numerous times following her Skrull upgrade....and even more following her Weapon X upgrade.

Not prior because she had absolutely no control over her bones.

That's because their fight was PRIOR to her Skrull upgrade. She had absolutely NO control over her bones prior to that event. She could only at the very best make them somewhat shaped like daggers. She couldn't form body armour at that period.

Your knowledge of Marrow is severely outdated.

AGAIN. PRIOR to the Skrull upgrade....

AGAIN, PRIOR to the Skrull upgrade.

You clearly didn't read these comics. You probably went to UncannyX-Men.net or Wikipedia to make up for it....

This "fight" (more like Agent Zero came at her from behind when she didn't expect it and was strangling her....) took place when Marrow's powers were growing out of control again without the Weapon X treatments. Her bones were popping out of her skull again and she was losing her hair.....

What exactly to you want me to work with here? Post Skrull healed pretty Marrow was around for maybe slightly more then a dozen issues and did absolutely nothing. She tried to fight Cable and he koed her in one panel... is that what you want me to talk about? Or how about she tried to fight Death Wolverine and even in "full combat mode" was dropped with a single judo chop? I'm working with what Marrow has done, sorry I don't feel content to talk out of my ass about Marrow's abilities the way you seem compelled to...

Originally posted by Draco69
Again. I've already stated, Marrow had no intention of using her abilities to her best at that time. She wanted to settle gladiator-style with only one weapon (her claws). Nothing else. COULD she have armoured up and porcupined herself? Absolutely. Did she want to? No. She wanted to beat Sabretooth at his own game and prove to him that she was the "alpha".

What are you basing this on? The fact of the matter is that she didn't use her abilities much, is that the fight didn't last that long. It's not as though she only used the claws (big deal if she did though, Marrow always uses a bladed weapon... or claws), she used some projectile quills too but they barely pierce Sabretooth at all... and she tried her bone pincushion move on his hands but that didn't do much either. Then fight lasted less then a minute from start to finish if I had to guess on a time frame.

Originally posted by Draco69
I don't think you have the right an opinion on Marrow's speed and agility since you don't have correct knowledge about either her powers or her history for that matter.

Her speed allows to dodge bullets and keep up with Spider-Man. That's more than enough to keep with Elektra.

She "kept up" with Spider-man know too, huh? 🙄

She tried to tackle Spider-man, he kicked her away jumped to another roof and webbed her. She cut her self lose and booked it after... but I'm not sure how she showed any speed there. Oh, do you mean how she pinned an injured Spider-man... but lets ignore that he let her so he could talk some sense to her and help the Sarah persona come to the surface.

And when has Marrow ever dodged bullets?

She wasn't even skilled, fast, or strong enough to beat Storm in a knife fight (talk about home field advantage) even while their was a Murloc telepath interfering with Storm!

Originally posted by Draco69
Your argument rests on Elektra throwing a sai at her before Marrow can react.

No, I'm pretty sure that even with her bone armor, Elektra is more then able to cleave through it with sword or sai... but what ever. Severed head, or punctured heart among other things is more then enough for Elektra to get the win.

Originally posted by Draco69
Bones skewer her body all the time. They come out of her stomach. They come out her chest. They come out her skull. They even come out her eyes. A sai through the chest or head won't be ANY different from a bone ripping through her skull or through her chest as it always does. Her bone anatomy is the same as ours. They just grow at insane rates and they come in different shapes.

Marrow regularly has to skewer her self with a bone to pull out a "bad" bone that's not growing right. Hell, once she opened up her own chest and ripped out a piece of her ribcage that was poking her heart.

Simply put, her healing factor is insane. Close distance or long distance, however Elektra wants to play it. She'll lose either way....

... Why do you assume that the bones form center mass? Much more likely the form right at the surface of where she wants them, if not they would hamper her mobility. When she creates bones they don't rip through her organs before protruding through her skin and if she ever had a bone formation in her brain... she'd be pretty much a vegetable. Marrow's healing factor is tame, just look at her fight with Storm. She was messed up.

With prep, Marrow will win. Too many projectiles plus armor plus some skill and agility.