Despero vs Thanos

Started by nvrbeenwthagirl12 pages

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Give me the issue numbers then.

Despero, however did not do anything else then enter her mind and blast her. NOTHING Thanos would not be able to do.

Teleportation ability second to none? Since when? Where did he even teleport?

Nothing of Desperos durability suggests that? How about the HUNDREDS of times he has been hurt by something that looks pitiful compared to Thanos's powers? If Guy Gardner can make him feel pain with one blast, Superman can pierce him with heat vision, etc. etc...

What do you think an attack that is THOUSANDS of times more powerful then any of those would do?

It's called story mister. Givent he fact that Despero wasn't able to be hurt by a falling rock of eternity, we can call those lower showings to heroes needing to look like heroes. Same as Thanos being hurt the many times before. Thanos would no more obliterate Despero with one blast than he would Superman. I haven't seen thanos obliterate anyone with one blast to come to mind. Has he ever obliterated the Hulk or Thor in one blast? Becuz Despero is soundly superior to them and if Thanos hasn't obliterated them with one blast, what makes you think he's going to obliterate Despero with one blast? Nothing but pure fan boyism would have anyone thinking thanos can win when in the entire history of Despero, it has taken Some Mystical or Supernatural might to beat him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's called story mister. Givent he fact that Despero wasn't able to be hurt by a falling rock of eternity, we can call those lower showings to heroes needing to look like heroes. Same as Thanos being hurt the many times before. Thanos would no more obliterate Despero with one blast than he would Superman. I haven't seen thanos obliterate anyone with one blast to come to mind. Has he ever obliterated the Hulk or Thor in one blast? Becuz Despero is soundly superior to them and if Thanos hasn't obliterated them with one blast, what makes you think he's going to obliterate Despero with one blast? Nothing but pure fan boyism would have anyone thinking thanos can win when in the entire history of Despero, it has taken Some Mystical or Supernatural might to beat him.

When did I say that he is going do it in one blast?

And Despero simply hasn't fought against anyone equal to Thanos. He feels pain, can be hurt, can be cut. His durability isn't clearly consistent enough to take Thanos's blasts. Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Superman, Hawkman, Green Arrow, Guy Gardner...all have hurt him at one point or another. Thanos can deal far more damage then ANY of them.

Thanos has hurt beings far more durable then Despero. His spirit may linger away, but his body is destroyed, which means a loss.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
When did I say that he is going do it in one blast?

And Despero simply hasn't fought against anyone equal to Thanos. He feels pain, can be hurt, can be cut. His durability isn't clearly consistent enough to take Thanos's blasts. Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Superman, Hawkman, Green Arrow, Guy Gardner...all have hurt him at one point or another. Thanos can deal far more damage then ANY of them.

Thanos has hurt beings far more durable then Despero. His spirit may linger away, but his body is destroyed, which means a loss.

Please. Just please. Thanos has fought being far more superior to Despero with Out side power ups, tech, upgrades, some weapon aiding him, or the like. He has never beaten any being Superior to Despero. He's beaten Surfer Thor and Hulk. All of whom Despero is Superior to as well. I'm not giving Thanos the victory. Becuz you act as if Despero would just be standing there letting thanos blast. Despero is just as capable of hurting thanos as Thanos is of Hurting Despero. Poeple make me sick acting as if everyone THanos fights would just stand there and be a punching bag.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please. Just please. Thanos has fought being far more superior to Despero with Out side power ups, tech, upgrades, some weapon aiding him, or the like. He has never beaten any being Superior to Despero. He's beaten Surfer Thor and Hulk. All of whom Despero is Superior to as well. I'm not giving Thanos the victory. Becuz you act as if Despero would just be standing there letting thanos blast. Despero is just as capable of hurting thanos as Thanos is of Hurting Despero. Poeple make me sick acting as if everyone THanos fights would just stand there and be a punching bag.

Name me one fight where he uses "tech" to fight someone.

Despero is not capable of hurting Thanos. Telepathic attacks are his strongest, and Thanos is a better telepath. Thanos has survived attacks from Odin, explosions from being equal to Galactus, Tyrant, Kosmos, Fallen One, Silver Surfer, Thor with Power Gem and Warrior Madness, Goddess, doppelganger equal to his own power...you want me to keep going? All those have shown stronger attacks then anything Despero has.

And no, he did not use tech or powerups or weapons in those. Too bad, huh?

Despero doesn't have what it takes to beat Thanos, but Thanos has what it takes to beat Despero. Thanos is simply on whole another level.

For gods sake, has Despero even fought anyone stronger then Superman? Because Thanos has. Many times-

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Name me one fight where he uses "tech" to fight someone.

Despero is not capable of hurting Thanos. Telepathic attacks are his strongest, and Thanos is a better telepath. Thanos has survived attacks from Odin, explosions from being equal to Galactus, Tyrant, Kosmos, Fallen One, Silver Surfer, Thor with Power Gem and Warrior Madness, Goddess, doppelganger equal to his own power...you want me to keep going? All those have shown stronger attacks then anything Despero has.

And no, he did not use tech or powerups or weapons in those. Too bad, huh?

Despero doesn't have what it takes to beat Thanos, but Thanos has what it takes to beat Despero. Thanos is simply on whole another level.

For gods sake, has Despero even fought anyone stronger then Superman? Because Thanos has. Many times-

First of all, Despero has fought multiple beings as strong as superman. IE powergirl, wonder woman, captain marvel and Superman. Also, Thanos in no way is a superior telepath than Despero. Nothing you can say would suggest such. Despero hasn't even ever been shown to have reached any upper limit to how powerful his TP is. Despero also has CONSISTANTLY BEEN SHOWN TO ONLY BE BEATEN BY MAGIC OR SUPERNATURAL MEANS. PERIOD. THIS IS A FACT THAT YOU NOR I CAN REPEAL. DESPERO HAS NEVER BEEN BEATEN WITHOUT SOMEKIND OF MAGIC OR SUPERNATURAL PLOT. one more thing, show me a scan of thanos beating an above top tier please. with no prep, tech, or outside power up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, Despero has fought multiple beings as strong as superman. IE powergirl, wonder woman, captain marvel and Superman. Also, Thanos in no way is a superior telepath than Despero. Nothing you can say would suggest such. Despero hasn't even ever been shown to have reached any upper limit to how powerful his TP is. Despero also has CONSISTANTLY BEEN SHOWN TO ONLY BE BEATEN BY MAGIC OR SUPERNATURAL MEANS. PERIOD. THIS IS A FACT THAT YOU NOR I CAN REPEAL. DESPERO HAS NEVER BEEN BEATEN WITHOUT SOMEKIND OF MAGIC OR SUPERNATURAL PLOT. one more thing, show me a scan of thanos beating an above top tier please. with no prep, tech, or outside power up.

Please...god...just go to the goddamn Respect thread so I don't need to write the same stuff again and again and again. Here, I post you the link:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,126171.0.html

But...*sigh*...

As far as above top tiers go, Thanos has beaten his Magus doppelganger and Kosmos for example.

And so what if Despero hasn't shown limit...doesn't matter, Thanos STILL has better feats. We here, you see, judge people based on what they HAVE done, not on what they MIGHT do. Thanos has better feats, Thanos has better telepathy. Unless Despero shows something equal or better, Thanos is better on telepathy. Otherwise I could just go and say that just because Thanos hasn't shown any limit to his strenght, there is nothing that would show that Rune King Thor is physically stronger then Thanos. 🙄

And again, Despero hasn't been KILLED by anything else then magical/mystical means, but he has been hurt plenty without. He still has a physical body that CAN be destroyed by Thanos.

Comprende?

And damn, if you are actually counting Death's upgrades to Thanos as powerup, then I might as well go on and b!tch about who Despero has beat WITHOUT Flame of Py'tar. Because...the Death upgrade is the only upgrade Thanos has had since his resurrection. Don't know why you still aren't picking that up.

What do you want to do next? Thor fight without Mjolnir? Spider-Man without web-shooters? Iron Man without armor?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Please...god...just go to the goddamn Respect thread so I don't need to write the same stuff again and again and again. Here, I post you the link:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,126171.0.html

But...*sigh*...

As far as above top tiers go, Thanos has beaten his Magus doppelganger and Kosmos for example.

And so what if Despero hasn't shown limit...doesn't matter, Thanos STILL has better feats. We here, you see, judge people based on what they HAVE done, not on what they MIGHT do. Thanos has better feats, Thanos has better telepathy. Unless Despero shows something equal or better, Thanos is better on telepathy. Otherwise I could just go and say that just because Thanos hasn't shown any limit to his strenght, there is nothing that would show that Rune King Thor is physically stronger then Thanos. 🙄

And again, Despero hasn't been KILLED by anything else then magical/mystical means, but he has been hurt plenty without. He still has a physical body that CAN be destroyed by Thanos.

Comprende?

And damn, if you are actually counting Death's upgrades to Thanos as powerup, then I might as well go on and ***** about who Despero has beat WHITOUT Flame of Py'tar. Because...the Death upgrade is the only upgrade Thanos has had.

Despero himself said he is not dispatched thru physcial means. So just how is thanos going to destroy his body? Despero being hurt and somehow healing seemingly instantly in now way shows that he is less durable than say Superman. And even Superman won't be vaporized by Thanos. As far as Thanos beating his magus Doppleganger, that is just like him beating himself. I wouldn't count that one too much. Thanos' TP in my opinion is not superior to Deserpo's. Despero's TP was able to for a while even beat Earth girl supergirl who was more powerful than all of the NEw Gods in thier GIANT forms. They would at least be on par with each other. As it stands, you are a much bigger thanos fan than I and will continue to see Thanos thru your lense of perception.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Despero himself said he is not dispatched thru physcial means. So just how is thanos going to destroy his body? Despero being hurt and somehow healing seemingly instantly in now way shows that he is less durable than say Superman. And even Superman won't be vaporized by Thanos. As far as Thanos beating his magus Doppleganger, that is just like him beating himself. I wouldn't count that one too much. Thanos' TP in my opinion is not superior to Deserpo's. Despero's TP was able to for a while even beat Earth girl supergirl who was more powerful than all of the NEw Gods in thier GIANT forms. They would at least be on par with each other. As it stands, you are a much bigger thanos fan than I and will continue to see Thanos thru your lense of perception.

What you don't understand about arena fights is that, if their physical form is defeated, they lose the match. That is to say unless otherwise specified in the initial thread. For example if Phoenix can resurrect herself, it still counts as a loss if her body is atomized and she has to recreate it.

Thanos may not be able to put down Despero as far as killing him off forever, but he sure as heck can put him down for the count in order to secure a win.

Despero just doesn't have what it takes though to do the same to Thanos. Therefore logically Despero cannot win this. If the initial fight conditions were different, then Despero might stand a chance, but they are not. Give up the Thanos hatin'.

Hey, Nvr. Thanos's energies are akin to magic and can hurt magically protected beings. It specifically mentions Magic as being in his purview.

and......

Nuff said. So shut up about Thanos not having magic.

You must have missed the point where I said a magical user or supernatural user high on the food chain? so you shut up. Thanos power have a magical "nature" is not him using magic neither is it him having the magical skill it takes to beat despero. Sho maybe oyu should shut upabout Thanos being able to beat Despero.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Despero himself said he is not dispatched thru physcial means. So just how is thanos going to destroy his body? Despero being hurt and somehow healing seemingly instantly in now way shows that he is less durable than say Superman. And even Superman won't be vaporized by Thanos. As far as Thanos beating his magus Doppleganger, that is just like him beating himself. I wouldn't count that one too much. Thanos' TP in my opinion is not superior to Deserpo's. Despero's TP was able to for a while even beat Earth girl supergirl who was more powerful than all of the NEw Gods in thier GIANT forms. They would at least be on par with each other. As it stands, you are a much bigger thanos fan than I and will continue to see Thanos thru your lense of perception.

Of course he is not dispatched through physical means BECAUSE HIS SPIRIT CONTINUES EVEN IF his body is destroyed.

And why in the name of hell wouldn't count Thanos beating someone who is his equal in battle? That is harder then just beat your run-in-the-mill opponent.

Your opinion is wrong, Despero never beat Supergirl with his telepathy. All he did was to show her some illusion BEFORE she assumed the Angel form. That feat doesn't even come CLOSE to stalemating GALACTUS for a while.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Of course he is not dispatched through physical means BECAUSE HIS SPIRIT CONTINUES EVEN IF his body is destroyed.

And why in the name of hell wouldn't count Thanos beating someone who is his equal in battle? That is harder then just beat your run-in-the-mill opponent.

Your opinion is wrong, Despero never beat Supergirl with his telepathy. All he did was to show her some illusion BEFORE she assumed the Angel form. That feat doesn't even come CLOSE to stalemating GALACTUS for a while.

First of all, what lvl was Galactus when He stalemated him? Big G is all over the place. Seeing as how Big G isn't like the best Telepath either, I dont' see that being that hard. Big G will win eventually anyway becuz of pure power. He'd need no skill. THanos stalemating Big G in telepathy was due to his skill. not power. 2nd of all, beating a clone of you is pretty easy as you know exactly what it will do and won't do. it is after all your clone. I want you to do me a favor and Show me Despero on Panel beaten by someone who wasn't supernatural or high tier magical user.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First of all, what lvl was Galactus when He stalemated him? Big G is all over the place. Seeing as how Big G isn't like the best Telepath either, I dont' see that being that hard. Big G will win eventually anyway becuz of pure power. He'd need no skill. THanos stalemating Big G in telepathy was due to his skill. not power.

Haha, are you freaking kidding? Galactus defeated Xavier in psychic combat without even basically noticing him. He destroyed his astral form and all, and the feedback affected Xaiver's own body. ANd that is just one of his telepathic feats. Big G is one of the best telepaths there are.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
2nd of all, beating a clone of you is pretty easy as you know exactly what it will do and won't do. it is after all your clone.[/B]

And so will the clone. It was a Magus Doppelganger, not just some normal clone. Beating your EXCAT EQUAL is probably one of the hardest things one can do.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I want you to do me a favor and Show me Despero on Panel beaten by someone who wasn't supernatural or high tier magical user. [/B]

Still don't get that whole physical body thing?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Haha, are you freaking kidding? Galactus defeated Xavier in psychic combat without even basically noticing him. He destroyed his astral form and all, and the feedback affected Xaiver's own body. ANd that is just one of his telepathic feats. Big G is one of the best telepaths there are.

And so will the clone. It was a Magus Doppelganger, not just some normal clone. Beating your EXCAT EQUAL is probably one of the hardest things one can do.

Still don't get that whole physical body thing?

First off, Big G doesn't need skill for his TP. He is so powerful that he just wins. Thanos has Skill which allowed him a temp stalemate. 2ndly, Beating your exact clone could be hard or could be easy. for thanos, easy. not becuz of power but becuz of his mind and skill.

thirdly, do you know where Despero's body is and why he was banished from it? it's becuz it was so damn powerful and unbeatable. Despero in his own body would not fall to Thanos. And THanos would not fall to despero.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
First off, Big G doesn't need skill for his TP. He is so powerful that he just wins. Thanos has Skill which allowed him a temp stalemate.

So, Big G, guy who has been here BEFORE our universe, lived for untold billion years, doesn't have skill, even though in the battle against Xavier he showed it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl

2ndly, Beating your exact clone could be hard or could be easy. for thanos, easy. not becuz of power but becuz of his mind and skill.

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Did that f*cking look easy to you?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl

thirdly, do you know where Despero's body is and why he was banished from it? it's becuz it was so damn powerful and unbeatable. Despero in his own body would not fall to Thanos. And THanos would not fall to despero.

I've read Despero's respect thread, and on every single fight he was in, he got hurt by things that are nothing compared to Thanos's powers.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So, Big G, guy who has been here BEFORE our universe, lived for untold billion years, doesn't have skill, even though in the battle against Xavier he showed it.

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Did that f*cking look easy to you?

I've read Despero's respect thread, and on every single fight he was in, he got hurt by things that are nothing compared to Thanos's powers.

It doesn't matter if Despero Got hurt. Did those injuries stop him? did they stop him from fighting or debilitate him? as far as the clone fight, i have the clone fight, he won becuz of his skill, not his power. as far as big g goes, big g doesn't go around using tp all the time. Of course he has some skill, but in the grand scheme of things, his power is what he relies on. thanos stalemated big g thru skill of tp only. since thanos in no way could ever match big g's power outright.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It doesn't matter if Despero Got hurt. Did those injuries stop him? did they stop him from fighting or debilitate him?

No, but they still hurt, him, which means that his physical body CAN be damaged, and it can be destroyed.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
as far as the clone fight, i have the clone fight, he won becuz of his skill, not his power.

What, skill doesn't count in matches anymore?

And you were claiming the fight was easy. Why would you claim such idiocy if you had the fight?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
as far as big g goes, big g doesn't go around using tp all the time. Of course he has some skill, but in the grand scheme of things, his power is what he relies on. thanos stalemated big g thru skill of tp only. since thanos in no way could ever match big g's power outright. [/B]

That is still telepathic ability, skills and adds to his power. And puts him above in Despero in feats.

this is getting rediculous, defeating cosmos, if she is suppose to be a cosmic cube she shouldnt even have lost to him, its called PIS, stalemating galactus......right because thaons is a cosmic power oh yeah HE'S NOT, beating moon dragon, who cares MM could probably controll an entire planet with his mind powers whats your point.

The fact of the matter is that DC characters are in my opinion physically stronger then mu characters first off MU characters already have a set strengh limit like 100 thousand pounds, thanos has been listed to be above that, but not by far, he still just doesnt defeat thor or surfer he still has to fight, i dont think he's strong enough to just beat up guys from the JLA not physically all of them combined would beat him up pretty good, especially since Lobo was in there once.

And last time i checked MU was suppose to emulate the real world so why are there black holes diffrent or are you just mad you dont wanna admit PIS.

Do you know how powerful a new god in there true form is, there giants, planets are specks to them.

even when PIS is present like him defeating a cosmic cube being, or stalemating a being like galactus you still dont care you actually think he can do that.

Originally posted by Mider999
this is getting rediculous, defeating cosmos, if she is suppose to be a cosmic cube she shouldnt even have lost to him, its called PIS, stalemating galactus......right because thaons is a cosmic power oh yeah HE'S NOT, beating moon dragon, who cares MM could probably controll an entire planet with his mind powers whats your point.

The fact of the matter is that DC characters are in my opinion physically stronger then mu characters first off MU characters already have a set strengh limit like 100 thousand pounds, thanos has been listed to be above that, but not by far, he still just doesnt defeat thor or surfer he still has to fight, i dont think he's strong enough to just beat up guys from the JLA not physically all of them combined would beat him up pretty good, especially since Lobo was in there once.

And last time i checked MU was suppose to emulate the real world so why are there black holes diffrent or are you just mad you dont wanna admit PIS.

Do you know how powerful a new god in there true form is, there giants, planets are specks to them.


Originally posted by Mider999
even when PIS is present like him defeating a cosmic cube being, or stalemating a being like galactus you still dont care you actually think he can do that.

The Maker incident and the Galactus incident where both after his most recent upgrade, and they're about the only showings that he's had since then. Therefor it wasn't really PIS, it was just a BIG upgrade.