Evil Ryu vs. Evil Ryu!!!

It's instant once it connects to the opponent. Ryu could impale him before then, especially with the Dark Dragon Blade seeing as it's a long range weapon.

Do you think Ryu is stupid enough to pull it off at a distance without some assurance it would hit?

this is the single mnost screwed up thing about these debates... people ASSUME that the character is simply going to do something foolish...

I for one don't pull the move out of my ass and hope to hell I don't get hit/thrown/jumped over...

Fiend Ryu could teleport behind Evil Ryu and kill him on the spot, but I'm just pointing out what could happen in this fight.

I know that in the games, Akuma unleashes a 4-hit combo and then performs the shungokusatsu, and he sometimes even teleports behind the enemy right before he gets them with the shungokusatsu, making it really difficult to avoid. However, it is equally likely that Fiend Ryu would teleport behind Evil Ryu and execute an Extinction Straight Slash as Evil Ryu would teleport behind him and get him with the shungokusatsu.

Argument over.

See what I mean... I guess I just realised why some of these debates get so screwed over.... Nobody can agree on an amicable solution...

That and one hit wonders make threads go stupid.

Actually, I have a question reguarding Evil Ryu's SGS: Is E.Ryu's version of the move even lethal, or as lethal as Akuma's? it only does 12 of the full 15 hits...

I did a check on the SGS in CVS2. Evil Ryu's is slightly weaker than Gouki's. Storywise, I have no idea. But the move is still very powerful. 12 hits? Weird, I've always seen 15.

12 hitters in the SFA3 home ports.

Here's the guage on the number of hits I've seen from SGS users

12 hits E.Ryu (SFA3)
13 hits Akuma, E.Ryu (SF EX series)
15 hits Standard (Everyone exept D.Sakura and C.Akuma)
16 hits Shin Akuma (SFA2 and A3) Akuma, Dark Sakura, Ryu in Akuma Mode (Marvel vs Series)
23 hits Cyber Akuma aerial variant of the move (MSF)
24 hits Cyber Akuma (MSF)
and 33 hits Shin Akuma (CVSNK 2 & CFJ/CFE)

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
See what I mean... I guess I just realised why some of these debates get so screwed over.... Nobody can agree on an amicable solution...

That and one hit wonders make threads go stupid.

Actually, I have a question reguarding Evil Ryu's SGS: Is E.Ryu's version of the move even lethal, or as lethal as Akuma's? it only does 12 of the full 15 hits...

Thats odd.... I ran a training go just a few minutes ago, damage was off by about 20 points %80 of the time... I did it 10 times at the exat same distance, variable damage is a biatch..

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Thats odd.... I ran a training go just a few minutes ago, damage was off by about 20 points %80 of the time... I did it 10 times at the exat same distance, variable damage is a biatch..

Well, since I'm using Alpha Anthologies for the PS2, the Arcade ports, thats the version I'm using.

Yeah, Akuma's a 15 hitter, but E.Ryu is a 12 hitter in A3.