Episode I: difference of opionon

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The fat will inherit the earth or something?

Well there will always be something for someone to b!tch about. The people that call others racist are usually the racist ones themselves, and go looking for anything that can be construed as racist.

Is BET racist? Not the people running it, but the concept itself? No.
What if white people made WET (white entertainment television), white people would be racist, right? Absolutely. In my high school, we had black clubs, Asian clubs and a Latino club, and then some white students started an all white club. Needless to say, the club was broken up and the student suspended for 5 days each for "perpetuating racist activity". Guess what color our asst principal was...

Anyway, Lucas has too much to lose by blatantly inserting racism into the global phenomenon that is Star Wars. I don't think anything is racist about SW, and it's just people trying to hate on Lucas and stir shit up and make a name for themselves.

And yes, I think all the overweight Americans in the country should sue GL due to Jabba's poor image on fat people. And gangsters for that matter. Capone would turn in his grave.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Well there will always be something for someone to b!tch about. The people that call others racist are usually the racist ones themselves, and go looking for anything that can be construed as racist.

Is BET racist? Not the people running it, but the concept itself? No.
What if white people made WET (white entertainment television), white people would be racist, right? Absolutely. In my high school, we had black clubs, Asian clubs and a Latino club, and then some white students started an all white club. Needless to say, the club was broken up and the student suspended for 5 days each for "perpetuating racist activity". Guess what color our asst principal was...

Anyway, Lucas has too much to lose by blatantly inserting racism into the global phenomenon that is Star Wars. I don't think anything is racist about SW, and it's just people trying to hate on Lucas and stir shit up and make a name for themselves.

And yes, I think all the overweight Americans in the country should sue GL due to Jabba's poor image on fat people. And gangsters for that matter. Capone would turn in his grave.

I think i love you. Platonically of course.

Or I could always sue GL for turning me gay because of the sexual controversy he purposefully created with Leia kissing Luke.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
And yes, I think all the overweight Americans in the country should sue GL due to Jabba's poor image on fat people. And gangsters for that matter. Capone would turn in his grave.

Lol.

Originally posted by Tangible God
I think i love you. Platonically of course.

Or I could always sue GL for turning me gay because of the sexual controversy he purposefully created with Leia kissing Luke.

What an odd reason to turn gay...

Wow this turned into a white power thread pretty quickly. White people complain so much about a double standard, and its usually the ones that don't accept the fact that there is actual racism in this world. I'm not saying minorities don't harbor racism for whites. I'm mixed and have gotten the short end of the stick from both sides. What I'm saying is trying to say there isn't racism from white people is just trying to make yourselves the victim. ❌ How about instead of arguing about who's the more racist people we can all try and bring tolerance and understanding to all races. ✅

But back on topic. My little brother, my best friend and I also fooled around with the obvious stereotypes that Lucas was trying to bring forth in the movies. I laughed hard when Watto said the thing about only money having affect on him then laughed even harder when nobody else in the theater got it. Jar-Jar and all the Gungans are supposed to be the black southerners and the Naboo the northern elitsts. Down south, down underwater, up north, up on the surface. Haha, get it?! I attributed the Asian accents of the Trade-Fed Nemoidians to just being Asian actors. They didn't really show any steroetypes beyond the accent.
The real question is if Lucas had a run in with some prototype robot as a child. I mean people HATE droids in Star Wars, OT, PT, and EU. I mean, in ANH, when 3PO is explaining his functions to Uncle Owen, Owen is pretty much like "Ok, stfu I get the idea." And Luke shows so much contempt for the droids until 3PO says something about the rebellion. And every bar has some sort of No Droids rule. Is George Lucas harboring prejudice towards advancing technology? 🤨

On a side note: Darth Subjekt, maybe you should try to rename the club. European-American club sounds like a club that will explore the differences in culture of the European nations. The All-White club sounds like a white supremacy club. 😉

And the All-Black club does not?

Well he didn't say it was the All-Black club. I'm pretty sure its probably called the African-American club and I doubt their purpose is to promote black nationalism but instead educate on African culture. At least that's how it was in my high school.

All very sensitive indeed...

Firstly, I'm not completely white, as I've said before. And no it wasn't called the black club, and the other wasn't called the white club, neither of which were mine to claim responsibility over. And what i am saying is, the people who b!tch about racism the most, are usually the ones who are the most racist. And i can say that on both sides of the spectrum. Black comedians talk shit about "crackas" all the time, but what if white people did the same in reverse? What if a movie was made and named "Black men can't read", it'd be racist. I just don't see why white people are always made out to be the evil ones and the racist ones in any situation where race is involved. Since i look "white" I'll use myself as an example...why should i feel guilty about other white people who are racist, and do and say racist shit, when there's more racist black people in the world, ratio wise? Remember the LA riots? What did Reginald Denny to deserve a brick to the face? He wasn't a coke and crack addict speeding down the highway who was resisting arrest. He was a man driving home. Everyone makes themselves out to be the victims. I don't care who you are. I've been called an abomination for being multiracial. Its been said that if you have one drop of black blood in you that you're black...well what about one drop of white blood? Are you white? No, of course not. It's all so ridiculously stupid that it's not even funny. Last time i checked, no black person alive today, was a slave, and no white person was a slave owner. So why not squash it and learn from each other? My parents did.

And no, it wasn't to learn the African culture, cause unless you were born there, you're not African. Being called African American is perpetuating the cycle by further segregating yourself from your country. They were an all black club who wanted every month to be a black history month. Stating that the black athletes were in fact the better ones and should start an all black league of sports. Let me ask you, if there was an all white college, who wouldn't accept any other race based on said race, would that be a racist school?

on a lighter note, how did they not display any Asian stereotypes? they helped design the ultimate technology, lol...sound like an Asian to me, j/k....i wonder if the Death Star was tagged with Sony anywhere....

I hope not.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Firstly, I'm not completely white, as I've said before. And no it wasn't called the black club, and the other wasn't called the white club, neither of which were mine to claim responsibility over. And what i am saying is, the people who b!tch about racism the most, are usually the ones who are the most racist. And i can say that on both sides of the spectrum. Black comedians talk shit about "crackas" all the time, but what if white people did the same in reverse? What if a movie was made and named "Black men can't read", it'd be racist. I just don't see why white people are always made out to be the evil ones and the racist ones in any situation where race is involved. Since i look "white" I'll use myself as an example...why should i feel guilty about other white people who are racist, and do and say racist shit, when there's more racist black people in the world, ratio wise? Remember the LA riots? What did Reginald Denny to deserve a brick to the face? He wasn't a coke and crack addict speeding down the highway who was resisting arrest. He was a man driving home. Everyone makes themselves out to be the victims. I don't care who you are. I've been called an abomination for being multiracial. Its been said that if you have one drop of black blood in you that you're black...well what about one drop of white blood? Are you white? No, of course not. It's all so ridiculously stupid that it's not even funny. Last time i checked, no black person alive today, was a slave, and no white person was a slave owner. So why not squash it and learn from each other? My parents did.

And no, it wasn't to learn the African culture, cause unless you were born there, you're not African. Being called African American is perpetuating the cycle by further segregating yourself from your country. They were an all black club who wanted every month to be a black history month. Stating that the black athletes were in fact the better ones and should start an all black league of sports. Let me ask you, if there was an all white college, who wouldn't accept any other race based on said race, would that be a racist school?

on a lighter note, how did they not display any Asian stereotypes? they helped design the ultimate technology, lol...sound like an Asian to me, j/k....i wonder if the Death Star was tagged with Sony anywhere....

I applaud you good sir.

don't applaud, just throw money...

Again?

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Firstly, I'm not completely white, as I've said before. And no it wasn't called the black club, and the other wasn't called the white club, neither of which were mine to claim responsibility over. And what i am saying is, the people who b!tch about racism the most, are usually the ones who are the most racist. And i can say that on both sides of the spectrum. Black comedians talk shit about "crackas" all the time, but what if white people did the same in reverse? What if a movie was made and named "Black men can't read", it'd be racist. I just don't see why white people are always made out to be the evil ones and the racist ones in any situation where race is involved. Since i look "white" I'll use myself as an example...why should i feel guilty about other white people who are racist, and do and say racist shit, when there's more racist black people in the world, ratio wise? Remember the LA riots? What did Reginald Denny to deserve a brick to the face? He wasn't a coke and crack addict speeding down the highway who was resisting arrest. He was a man driving home. Everyone makes themselves out to be the victims. I don't care who you are. I've been called an abomination for being multiracial. Its been said that if you have one drop of black blood in you that you're black...well what about one drop of white blood? Are you white? No, of course not. It's all so ridiculously stupid that it's not even funny. Last time i checked, no black person alive today, was a slave, and no white person was a slave owner. So why not squash it and learn from each other? My parents did.

And no, it wasn't to learn the African culture, cause unless you were born there, you're not African. Being called African American is perpetuating the cycle by further segregating yourself from your country. They were an all black club who wanted every month to be a black history month. Stating that the black athletes were in fact the better ones and should start an all black league of sports. Let me ask you, if there was an all white college, who wouldn't accept any other race based on said race, would that be a racist school?

on a lighter note, how did they not display any Asian stereotypes? they helped design the ultimate technology, lol...sound like an Asian to me, j/k....i wonder if the Death Star was tagged with Sony anywhere....

I feel you. I too am mixed, half white, half Puerto Rican and grew up in a predominantly black city, and have felt the sting of racism from all sides. You're missing my point. I put blame on no one race. However, victimizing yourselves isn't going to make it any better. Victimizing yourselves only gives you reason to retaliate, which just keeps this vicious cycle going. I've asked myself the same questions you're asking but the real question is, why do you need it? There may not be any official all white colleges but there are plenty of colleges that are pretty damn close. Plenty of comedians make fun of stereotypes of every race. It seems the "victims" focus in on the jokes about their particular race. Have you seen White men can't jump"? Hardly a movie that demeans white people. You say you want to squash but all I'm seeing is more racial tension.
Originally posted by Tangible God
I applaud you good sir.
You're late for your KKK meeting.

not at all, i was just trying to prove a point. In that movie for instance, they called him everything but a white man, clowned him about his clothes, speech, and skin. OK, big deal right? If that had been in reverse the lack community would have cried foul and "victimized" themselves, thusly perpetuation the cycle, as we both have said. If Chris Rock calls a white guy a honky or cracker, its funny...if (insert random white comedian here) calls a black guy a n!gger or something, he's a racist piece of shit who needs to be castrated. All I'm saying is pay attention to the ones who are actually making victims of themselves, but using misdirection to place the focus on the other man. I don't identify more with my white side anymore than my black, but i feel for both and stick up for both in these situations when called for. I can call a spade a spade (no pun intended, seriously)

I forgot what it was called, but that remake of Heaven Can Wait with I think Chris Rock actually addresses that point. He starts wisecracking as a stand-up comedian in a white man's body.

Originally posted by Marxman
You're late for your KKK meeting.
You are a racist sir. You're discriminating against us non-blended whites who speak out on what Subjekt has said. That is racist and discriminatory.

Or useful in the long run.

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