Originally posted by KontonDecay could destroy matter on a sub atomic level and eve she couldn't do it to Diana instantly the first time. The second time, Diana completely resisted subatomic disintegration.I think she was turned intoan ape once. That was reality manip which is gretaer tan molecular manip. Even then she retained her Godly powers.
Speculation at it's finest. =/
Sersi 8/10 but she has to put distance between them and fight from far away. WW can't really do anything to Sersi including KOing, BFR, and killing since WW doesn't have a weapon that can disperse atoms. WW's only hope is her lasso, if Sersi cannot tranmute it. Sersi can only be beaten by better telepaths, telekinetics at the level of X3 movie Jean Grey or more powerful magic, which WW doesn't have because she only have defensive magic. Sersi might be able to de-age WW back to being clay but it will take a while considering they're both old enough to be Aunt May's ancestors.
this is a very tough call. if ww can be transmuted via sersi's COSMIC power, she clearly wins. theoretically, she could also simply transmute the air in diana's lungs into poison, or titanium or maybe even adamantium or an equivalent. hell, she could simply teleport it away, suffocating her. that wouldn't require she transmute diana at all.
she could last in h2h for a while. her blasts would do damage but not enough. diana would outlast her if her transmutation powers weren't going to get it done. i think she COULD win via bfr anytime she wanted though, but i don't really count bfr's as wins, ever.
He blasts could definitely do enough damage.
Aside from physically punching out Herc, she also downed him in a single tk throw around the same time. She was powerful enough to shield the Avenger's from a universal threat that actually destroyed the universe. The only thing that survived was the area she protected.
Diana can't "outlast" Sersi either. While Wondy can certainly go for days on end in combat, Sersi canonically has an infinite reserve of power.
Originally posted by Konton
Aside from physically punching out Herc, she also downed him in a single tk throw around the same time. She was powerful enough to shield the Avenger's from a universal threat that actually destroyed the universe. The only thing that survived was the area she protected.
That's with her powers. Without them, she gets killed, the same way Genis-Vell can get beaten to death by Atlas, despite being ridiculously more powerful then him.
And WW is on a tier of speed fast enough to hit her many times before she can even think, let alone react..
What? Why wouldn't she have her powers? Moreover, why wouldn't she use them? lol
As for speed, yeah yeah she's fast I know. But she doesn't really have to aim to teleport/manipulate things. She just wills it, as referenced when she lost her memory and changed a cat into a dragon by accident. And she's durable enough to take a few really fast hits before anything happens.
Diana has to use the lasso. Or the tiara, if we count decapitation as a temp win because Sersi can just make a new head.
Originally posted by Konton
He blasts could definitely do enough damage.Aside from physically punching out Herc, she also downed him in a single tk throw around the same time. She was powerful enough to shield the Avenger's from a universal threat that actually destroyed the universe. The only thing that survived was the area she protected.
Diana can't "outlast" Sersi either. While Wondy can certainly go for days on end in combat, Sersi canonically has an infinite reserve of power.
by outlast i mean ko her. and sersi did save the avengers--problem was that she couldn't turn herself or the others back iirc, so that feat really isn't very helpful....
hmm, i'm remembering when she took her and fired him into the bridge. i think that was the ko. i don't know the tk throw you're talking about.
reagrdless, if she can't transmute and it comes to h2h, she's in loads of trouble. blasts can and would be deflected and she most assuredly CAN be ko'd. and in h2h against diana, she would be, more often than not.
You're talking about a different feat than I am. I am not talking about when she rendered herself and her teammates innert to be unaffected by that one blast, I'm talking about her actively resisting the black tendrils that wiped out the universe.
This is the Hercules thing
http://imageshack.us/f/442/avengers360p23he1.jpg/
My point is that yeah transmutation probably won't work, but basic tk is still potent enough to defend from universal powers and casually toss around 100 class bricks with ease.
Originally posted by Konton
You're talking about a different feat than I am. I am not talking about when she rendered herself and her teammates innert to be unaffected by that one blast, I'm talking about her actively resisting the black tendrils that wiped out the universe.[\quote\ah. i dimly recall the arc. scans?
This is the Hercules thingagain, ah. not sure he was ko'd there though, but still a good feat.
[quote]My point is that yeah transmutation probably won't work, but basic tk is still potent enough to defend from universal powers and casually toss around 100 class bricks with ease.
oh, she'd make a fight of it, no doubt. she could win some but i think h2h is diana's forte and she'd take a majority of it came to that.
