Originally posted by carver9
Listen and read my quotes better, yes he moves at super speed but he dont move around your body superfast... example - when he wants to use his speed he fly to you fast then punch you head on with superspeed. Thats a opening for hulk. Since he is in his face punching him that fast, thats all he have to do is grab him. What he dont use is punch you in the face wink out, come behind you punch in you the back which makes you go in the air, wink out and meet you in the air and hit you to the ground and wink out again and catch you before you hit the ground. Thats a good use of super speed but he fight you straight up FACE TO FACE with his speed and that would just leave him open to a punch or to get grabbed which wouldnt be hard for the hulk, especially mindless hulk who could take superman best punches.
We've proven that Superman fights faster than people can see. Now you're either being a troll or you're just obtuse.