superman vs ultron

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Originally posted by LordFear
Yeah not with just brute strength.

Yah, actually they both did it with raw strength.

Originally posted by batdude123
SUPPOSEDLY, it's raw liquid form can be processed, but once it cools and hardens, it can't be melted again. Stupid? Yes, but I believe that's how it works. 😬

I thought that was just in the film? 😕

Anyways, if that's the case, then, like Draco said, how was it melted in the first place? It would have already melted once/hardened during the creation of the Earth and general sublimation of the mantle and what not.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yah, actually they both did it with raw strength.

Then that's what you call a load of shit.
How the hell Avengers with THor and Ironman get their asses handed to them but these dudes get the job done with raw might?
sHIT writing from shitless writers, thats what

What WOULD have been good writing is if Thor simply 'ported Ultron to another dimension or shattered him with a Godblast or for once use his hammer correctly...

Iron Man should have cracked Ultron's programming with little difficulty as well.

Originally posted by Draco69
What WOULD have been good writing is if Thor simply 'ported Ultron to another dimension or shattered him with a Godblast or for once use his hammer correctly...

Iron Man should have cracked Ultron's programming with little difficulty as well.

Agreed. on both counts

Originally posted by Soljer
I thought that was just in the film? 😕

Anyways, if that's the case, then, like Draco said, how was it melted in the first place? It would have already melted once/hardened during the creation of the Earth and general sublimation of the mantle and what not.

Your assuming it came naturally in some form.

Hope that answers you questions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium_%28Marvel_Universe%29


What WOULD have been good writing is if Thor simply 'ported Ultron to another dimension or shattered him with a Godblast or for once use his hammer correctly...

That's like saying Superman throws everyone out into space. And it wouldn't help either. Ultron is a computer system that has backup copies of itself. Once one is eliminated, the program (where ever it's hidden) activates another Ultron with upgrades.


Iron Man should have cracked Ultron's programming with little difficulty as well.

IM isn't all that compared to Ultron. He's got nifty tech but so does Ultron. And again, there's copies of Ultron's program out there. The second version is upgraded with better defense then the first. That's why Ultron's inner component can't be shaken to pieces like Wonder Man use to be able to.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Adamantium has no melting point or breaking point that is why its adamantium. (mangetism can effect it for some reason though)

I think it's ridiculous to assume Adamantium is completely invulnerable instead of just having unreal breaking and melting points.

Don't see Kal-El melting Ulton's adamantium shell. Ultron destroys him.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I think it's ridiculous to assume Adamantium is completely invulnerable instead of just having unreal breaking and melting points.

It comes from the root word Adamant meaning unbreakable. The implication is that it simply cannot be destroyed in it hardened state.

Ridiculous? Yes, but thats still how it works and is always described.

Kal-El still loses

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Kal-El still loses

Not.

Superman taps out to Ultron.

my answer....http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=415066&highlight=tru-marvell 😛 💃

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It comes from the root word Adamant meaning unbreakable. The implication is that it simply cannot be destroyed in it hardened state.

Ridiculous? Yes, but thats still how it works and is always described.


Unbreakable like diamonds were at the time the word was invented? Look at them now. They hang from the rim of every orifice on our bodies now.

Could a master of the infinity gauntlet amp themselves up to the point where they could physically bend or break adamantium? Or heat it to its melting point? As long as they can, adamantium isn't unbreakable, just absurdly durable.

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Kal-El still loses

What do you mean? He can easily overheat Ultron.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Unbreakable like diamonds were at the time the word was invented? Look at them now. They hang from the rim of every orifice on our bodies now.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Could a master of the infinity gauntlet amp themselves up to the point where they could physically bend or break adamantium? Or heat it to its melting point? As long as they can, adamantium isn't unbreakable, just absurdly durable.

OK fine but short of that Adamantuim is probably unbreakable.

A better question would be can a master of the IG make a metal that cannot be broken by even a person with the IG?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

I just glanced at the dictionary. One of the definitions of adamant was the name of a legendary stone of impenetrable hardness, "formerly sometimes", whatever that means, identified with diamond.

Back then diamonds were probably "unbreakable" by all means but now they're not.

The point is the root word means jack.

OK fine but short of that Adamantuim is probably unbreakable.

If it can be broken it's not unbreakable.

A better question would be can a master of the IG make a metal that cannot be broken by even a person with the IG?

The ultimate paradox against true omnipotence question.

Adamantium can be destroyed, it just depends on the mass of it (looking to Wiki on this one though)

And didn't Thor knock some of it out of shape once?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Adamantium has no melting point or breaking point that is why its adamantium.
so it's mystical ?
(wheres this stated?)

Internal components are not adamantium, the heat vision will fry the circuitry by slow cook.

Plus, Adamantium has been broken, it's just insanely hard to do. For the record, a molecular destabilizer or something like that is needed to manipulate the adamantium once hardened. The nature of the material is that it's an alloy, made from steel and other materials. It has to be melted and merged together before it becomes true adamantium.

Primary adamantium has never been broken in a 616 canon story.