juggernaut movement gauntlet

Started by bigbran7 pages

Originally posted by carver9
I seem to know what Im talking about since I havent witnessed anyone in comics stopping him and Im talking about people who used there powers to the fullest. Juggernaut is unstoppable, his name sake fits him. If he can take a blast that had galactus running, galactus, a being who is superior to anyone on that list, than even with the use of there powers, they aint stopping him.
Good... is that why Hulk can beat Superman? Is that why Superman can only go supersonic?

Anyway. the blast didn't move Galactus, and he was standing still. Galactus was also severely weakened in his fight with Ego, and Thor cheap-shotted him. A little pis was also added.
Also, that blast did stop him. "As Juggernaut strains to regain his forward momentum".

But, to say that no one could stop Juggernaut, is just insane. Sure maybe no one on this list could stop him, but Galactus could stop him. Is he no one?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO, that comic says that juggs was walking and stopped.It clearly says that the juggernaut experienced something he never felt before which is his momentumbeing stopped and Thor was actually reversing it. Juggs had to fight to try and start back.

Where?
Not that Thor couldn't stop him with the godforce. If anything could stop him, it'd be the godforce. Magic is Jug's weakness.

Originally posted by long pig
Where?

I'd say it's kind of obvious.

The comic even mentions Cain trying to REGAIN forward momentum.

RE gain.

Originally posted by Soljer
I'd say it's kind of obvious.

The comic even mentions Cain trying to REGAIN forward momentum.

RE gain.


Ah, I see.

Makes sense enough to me. It's neat how he had to break out his godforce, though.

Originally posted by long pig
Ah, I see.

Makes sense enough to me. It's neat how he had to break out his godforce, though.


Which is really just a part of him. He can use it to amp his physical strength i'm sure. I'd almost bet someone can right that in. at least for a master blow or something like that.

Originally posted by long pig
Superman couldn't stop him. Superman isn't very powerful at all, actually.

😕 😆

Originally posted by long pig
Ah, I see.

Makes sense enough to me. It's neat how he had to break out his godforce, though.

Agreed.

Thor whipping out the Godforce? You know it's serious.

Maybe that's why he's never used it on the Hulk....

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Which is really just a part of him. He can use it to amp his physical strength i'm sure. I'd almost bet someone can right that in. at least for a master blow or something like that.

I don't think Thor has control enough over the godforce to actually use it in that manner. It'd most likely destroy him.

One of the reasons Thor has the hammer is because he can't use/store/control his own godly energy. He needs the hammer to do it for him. If he could, he'd basically get rid of the hammer. Odin, on the other hand, can do all the things Thor can without a weapon.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
😕 😆

Superman is just a flying strong man with blasts. His powers are weak compared to people who time/reality/molecular/energy control.

Originally posted by Soljer
Agreed.

Thor whipping out the Godforce? You know it's serious.

Maybe that's why he's never used it on the Hulk....


Very serious. A GF blast SHOULD hurt anyone. No matter who they are.

Originally posted by long pig
I don't think Thor has control enough over the godforce to actually use it in that manner. It'd most likely destroy him.

One of the reasons Thor has the hammer is because he can't use/store/control his own godly energy. He needs the hammer to do it for him. If he could, he'd basically get rid of the hammer. Odin, on the other hand, can do all the things Thor can without a weapon.

Superman is just a flying strong man with blasts. His powers are weak compared to people who time/reality/molecular/energy control.

Very serious. A GF blast SHOULD hurt anyone. No matter who they are.

A God blast isn't going to hurt Thanos, Diana's Shield of Aegis, Superman 1M and many others. Superman is a very powerful character. And can defeat many characters who have those power setsthat you mentioned.

Originally posted by bigbran
Good... is that why Hulk can beat Superman? Is that why Superman can only go supersonic?

Anyway. the blast didn't move Galactus, and he was standing still. Galactus was also severely weakened in his fight with Ego, and Thor cheap-shotted him. A little pis was also added.
Also, that blast did stop him. "As Juggernaut strains to regain his forward momentum".

But, to say that no one could stop Juggernaut, is just insane. Sure maybe no one on this list could stop him, but Galactus could stop him. Is he no one?

Nut, Im talking about earth based beings, not cosmic beings. By the way with superman speed, if you read my postings correctly I said that I got my info from writers not from fans. You dont have to go by what I read from writers, if you want superman to move as fast as you think then I dont have a problem with that but I go by what I read not what YOU or any other fan tell me. With the galactus and juggernaut comparison I was stating that the god blast gave galactus pain whereas it didnt do any kind of physical harm to juggs, do you get it.

Originally posted by carver9
Nut, Im talking about earth based beings, not cosmic beings. By the way with superman speed, if you read my postings correctly I said that I got my info from writers not from fans. You dont have to go by what I read from writers, if you want superman to move as fast as you think then I dont have a problem with that but I go by what I read not what YOU or any other fan tell me. With the galactus and juggernaut comparison I was stating that the god blast gave galactus pain whereas it didnt do any kind of physical harm to juggs, do you get it.
First off... don't talk down to me.

Yes, and the on-panel evidence goes against everything you said. 😱
Do YOU get it? When something isn't written in a comic, it is irrelevent. Do we look at writer's opinions, or do we look at comics for the ultimate source? Writer's opinions are only good for explaining something that was confusing, or how someone did it, not for powers.

I know what you said, but I'm saying that Juggernaut is not unstoppable, and that the God Force did stop him. Galactus would also stop him.
I also explained how the God Force hurt Galactus.

Originally posted by bigbran
First off... don't talk down to me.

Yes, and the on-panel evidence goes against everything you said. 😱
Do YOU get it? When something isn't written in a comic, it is irrelevent. Do we look at writer's opinions, or do we look at comics for the ultimate source? Writer's opinions are only good for explaining something that was confusing, or how someone did it, not for powers.

I know what you said, but I'm saying that Juggernaut is not unstoppable, and that the God Force did stop him. Galactus would also stop him.
I also explained how the God Force hurt Galactus.

I apologize for talking down to you, was still kinda upset over the other comment you made earlier on the site. Honestly we dont know what can stop the juggernaut because from everything that we have seen that tried it have failed. Galactus is a very powerful being but until I see him stop the juggernaut or someone in his class stop him Im still considering juggernaut completely unstoppable. Thats the nature of his powers, to be completely unstoppable. Thats why he have unlimited stength, durability, and stamina and dont need to eat, sleep, drink because that fits in to making him unstoppable.

As for the superman thingy. I havent seen any scans from you or any other person, except the blackhole feat where he was going faster than light and that could be due to the black hole that he was going that fast. I wanted everyone on that site to answer a question for me but they didnt. I asked since superman moves at the speed of light, why when superboy prime said that he was going to fly to oa at the speed of light and destroy it and when he flew away, why did superman say how are we going to catch him going that fast we dont have the speed to catch him and they had to call the gl corp to cut him off. And since superman fly that fast why did half of the gl corp get killed before superman got there, why did it take him so long to get there if he moves at the speed of light. If he moved that fast he could have caught up with him and fought him until the others got there.

Originally posted by carver9
I apologize for talking down to you, was still kinda upset over the other comment you made earlier on the site. Honestly we dont know what can stop the juggernaut because from everything that we have seen that tried it have failed. Galactus is a very powerful being but until I see him stop the juggernaut or someone in his class stop him Im still considering juggernaut completely unstoppable. Thats the nature of his powers, to be completely unstoppable. Thats why he have unlimited stength, durability, and stamina and dont need to eat, sleep, drink because that fits in to making him unstoppable.

As for the superman thingy. I havent seen any scans from you or any other person, except the blackhole feat where he was going faster than light and that could be due to the black hole that he was going that fast. I wanted everyone on that site to answer a question for me but they didnt. I asked since superman moves at the speed of light, why when superboy prime said that he was going to fly to oa at the speed of light and destroy it and when he flew away, why did superman say how are we going to catch him going that fast we dont have the speed to catch him and they had to call the gl corp to cut him off. And since superman fly that fast why did half of the gl corp get killed before superman got there, why did it take him so long to get there if he moves at the speed of light. If he moved that fast he could have caught up with him and fought him until the others got there.

Oh please.
Why wouldn't Galactus be able to stop him? Thor has stopped him. War Hulk is debatable of whether he stopped him.
Galactus is about let's say a f*cking lot above both of these.

Umm... I did adress that, and it got ignored... I actually adressed EVERYTHING, and it got ignored...

Originally posted by bigbran
Oh please.
Why wouldn't Galactus be able to stop him? Thor has stopped him. War Hulk is debatable of whether he stopped him.
Galactus is about let's say a f*cking lot above both of these.

Umm... I did adress that, and it got ignored... I actually adressed EVERYTHING, and it got ignored...

Ok, 1st thing the god blast didnt stop him it slowed him down and then he start to walk again (without feeling any kind of pain). War hulk, that is debatable, IF HE DIDNT USE HIS WHIP (not screaming at you, just trying to prove a point.). They did a sucky job in that book and it didnt say if he was stopped or wasnt but from the way it looked to me it looked like he got tripped. So both things that you brought up was irrelevant. Juggernaut has never been stopped, now the most recent juggernaut can be stopped. The reason why I dont think that juggernaut can be stopped, the ultimate reason is because this guy wasnt nothing but bones and was still unstoppable, it cant get any better than that.

Another thing. I didnt ignore your post about the superman thing because you didnt say nothing but I'll talk to you tomorrow, have a good one and when I get back show me what you were trying to tell me with the superman thing, if you prove me wrong I dont have a problem in admitting it, Im a honest guy.

war stopped juggy nuff said stop denieing it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
A God blast isn't going to hurt Thanos, Diana's Shield of Aegis, Superman 1M and many others. Superman is a very powerful character. And can defeat many characters who have those power setsthat you mentioned.

A godblast would hurt Thanos. It has in the past, I believe. It'd kill Wonder Woman and regular Superman.

Superman's only useful powers are speed, durability and strength. Anyone with those before mentioned listed powers is above Superman. Someone like Surfer is so far above Superman powerwise that it's rediculous.

Originally posted by xmeat
war stopped juggy nuff said stop denieing it.

Indeed. War's Celestial tech probably did stop Jug.....Hulk had very little to any part in it. It looked like he only tripped him, though.

Originally posted by carver9
I apologize for talking down to you, was still kinda upset over the other comment you made earlier on the site. Honestly we dont know what can stop the juggernaut because from everything that we have seen that tried it have failed. Galactus is a very powerful being but until I see him stop the juggernaut or someone in his class stop him Im still considering juggernaut completely unstoppable. Thats the nature of his powers, to be completely unstoppable. Thats why he have unlimited stength, durability, and stamina and dont need to eat, sleep, drink because that fits in to making him unstoppable.

As for the superman thingy. I havent seen any scans from you or any other person, except the blackhole feat where he was going faster than light and that could be due to the black hole that he was going that fast. I wanted everyone on that site to answer a question for me but they didnt. I asked since superman moves at the speed of light, why when superboy prime said that he was going to fly to oa at the speed of light and destroy it and when he flew away, why did superman say how are we going to catch him going that fast we dont have the speed to catch him and they had to call the gl corp to cut him off. And since superman fly that fast why did half of the gl corp get killed before superman got there, why did it take him so long to get there if he moves at the speed of light. If he moved that fast he could have caught up with him and fought him until the others got there.

If you go to the superman respect thread then you should find at least 3 scans showing superman exceeding light speed. The scans shows the exact numbers too. For example, When Luthor became president the panel clearly says and shows Superman going through a moon of Saturn (straight from earth) in about 4 minutes. This is more than 15x the speed of light.
Another scan will show that Superman flew to the sun and back in 1min 57 sec. This is more than 8x the speed of light. Please go the Superman respect thread.

Originally posted by long pig
Indeed. War's Celestial tech probably did stop Jug.....Hulk had very little to any part in it. It looked like he only tripped him, though.

It seems more like he got smart enough as WarHulk that he was able to toss Juggy around.

Originally posted by long pig
A godblast would hurt Thanos. It has in the past, I believe. It'd kill Wonder Woman and regular Superman.

Superman's only useful powers are speed, durability and strength. Anyone with those before mentioned listed powers is above Superman. Someone like Surfer is so far above Superman powerwise that it's rediculous.

Diana bracelets (formed as aegis) stops the godblast.
You need to read the Superman respect thread to think that Superman at his best will die to the Godblast. He has taken planet exploding energy, the core of a red sun (the kind that weakens him and not give him powers), withstood magic attacks by shear will against skyfather level beings, etc.
And as far as Superman's useful powers, add in T-Vo, Vibration (which he can use to make him intangible or just vibrate any material to pieces), HV (which is greater than anything mankind can measure. And mankind can measure the temp of the hottest stars.), Superbreath, Super Fighting ability (current Supes), Smarts, Microscopic vision (can see ones genetic makeup), energy absorption ability, super hearing and vision (can see and hear an unknown distance away), and psionic ability like gladiator (can overcome magic, kryptonite, black holes, thousands of galaxies of power pushing against him, etc by pure will). There probably is more.