Re: Re: Re: Re: What's it like to be Black Person?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I agree. And I was born in Clarksdale, Mississippi. A place that is still like 1940. But like I said it exists, but I tend to get along with everyone, even people prejudice towards black people.I like the area I live in now, Atlanta is a good place. ✅
Yeah ive heard about Atlanta, the black city.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't live in a predominantly Black Area at all, but there are a good number of black people here. And a tolerance for mixed couples and whatnot. But good racial tolerance is usually better up north. Washington for example.
Heard some parts of Washington are ROUGH!
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I don't live in a predominantly Black Area at all, but there are a good number of black people here. And a tolerance for mixed couples and whatnot. But good racial tolerance is usually better up north. Washington for example.
As in Washington DC? You have to be kidding me. If you come from money, you can exit out of the reg. black areas and grace yourself among the rich ones, so yeah, in any case, the rich are usually kind, esp. to their own. But, if you are a working class person, and you are BLACK, the n_gger crowd will try to show you "how it really be". And it's a multi-cultural place, but people stick within their own race and narrow view of one another. If a person looks black (Ethiopian) but around Hispanics (I am black Hispanic by the way), they may find that other races of minorities will treat them like they are thuggish African Americans, I've seen that before, not cool. I can tell the difference b/t a thug or a black person who hates white culture, hates proper diction, and dress style. But before some open their mouths, they maybe made fun of or "put in their place" to remind them that they should be one of the crowd.
I use to live in Atlanta. I can tell you this much, I was at a beauty shop 4 years ago there, and there was an AA girl (17ish), very light color but with a slightly broad nose. Do you know what happened? 4-5 black WOMEN (25+) came up to her and started making fun of her nose, I was like wtf? These women were older then her, and she can't help her nose as much as they can help their skin color, see these ladies all had straight noses but they weren't light colored. And can you believe that they looked at me to join into their attack on this kid? I was ashamed, for starters, they are older and should provide a good example, instead, it was like they mocked her as one of the characters did in the book/movie "Memoirs of a Geisha", maybe they were jealous of her in some way, maybe it was her youth, and they started to put her down in public, and as far as I knew, they didn't know her, never met her before, and the kid was about to cry until I stepped in and complimented her and let her know that she's so cute. It's not fair to poke fun of someone. We are the older ones, we are supose to protect kids, not mock them and take away their self esteem, and I would do that for anybody, any race, it's not fair to poke fun and embarass a person. After I stood up to them for her, the ladies just looked at me and they walked away. I've never seen whites do this to each other, NEVER, and I was around them when they were very relaxed being themselves (so I did see and hear a lot), but never seen that crap done to another person.
So, yeah, I have a lot of little stories about blacks and how they treat other blacks to "put them in their place" or harass the person. If you are white, you may miss this b/c the blacks who do this are in the past (mentally) and they are still kinda scared of you, thinking if they do this stuff to you, they will be punished really harshly, so they reserve all of the bullshit for other blacks. And I've been in the receiving end of it, and I've been a witness to it. And I like to keep my distance b/c of all the stuff I have seen and has been done to me...does that help? Not exactly, b/c some folks try so much harder to get right in front of you, or try to establish a familiar bond, when it's very clear you want to keep your distance, this distant behavior is done for a reason, if they want to improve anything, change how they teach/train/treat children (how they teach their kids to behave). Trying to sway a person who has been twice bitten, an adult, that's not a smart move, all it does is iritate the matter...I have been bitten so much already and I know the games, better bet is improve commuication within the future generation (kids).
I was talking about the state all the way across the country from me. There are mixed couples there all the time: Black,white, asian, etc. Even preachers have interracial marriages and it's common there.
It's wherever though. Atlanta has Forsyth, a predominately white area. But I went there fine. Like I said I know some people who are initially prejudice against black people, but don't have a big problem with me because I don't fit most "stereotypes".
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I was talking about the state all the way across the country from me. There are mixed couples there all the time: Black,white, asian, etc. Even preachers have interracial marriages and it's common there.It's wherever though. Atlanta has Forsyth, a predominately white area. But I went there fine. Like I said I know some people who are initially prejudice against black people, but don't have a big problem with me because I don't fit most "stereotypes".
Then the compliment you owe is not solely to yourself, but also to the group who is able to overcome their own prejudice and accept you (as you are, as I assume you behave the way you do b/c it's intrinsic, not b/c you are putting on a show or an act, so if you are genuine, that's an excellent quality, but do know that the ones who are around you deserve the credit too, the credit of overcoming their own prejudices, that states a lot about "white racists" doesn't it?)
Originally posted by Oncewhite
As in Washington DC? You have to be kidding me. If you come from money, you can exit out of the reg. black areas and grace yourself among the rich ones, so yeah, in any case, the rich are usually kind, esp. to their own. But, if you are a working class person, and you are BLACK, the n_gger crowd will try to show you "how it really be". And it's a multi-cultural place, but people stick within their own race and narrow view of one another. If a person looks black (Ethiopian) but around Hispanics (I am black Hispanic by the way), they may find that other races of minorities will treat them like they are thuggish African Americans, I've seen that before, not cool. I can tell the difference b/t a thug or a black person who hates white culture, hates proper diction, and dress style. But before some open their mouths, they maybe made fun of or "put in their place" to remind them that they should be one of the crowd.I use to live in Atlanta. I can tell you this much, I was at a beauty shop 4 years ago there, and there was an AA girl (17ish), very light color but with a slightly broad nose. Do you know what happened? 4-5 black WOMEN (25+) came up to her and started making fun of her nose, I was like wtf? These women were older then her, and she can't help her nose as much as they can help their skin color, see these ladies all had straight noses but they weren't light colored. And can you believe that they looked at me to join into their attack on this kid? I was ashamed, for starters, they are older and should provide a good example, instead, it was like they mocked her as one of the characters did in the book/movie "Memoirs of a Geisha", maybe they were jealous of her in some way, maybe it was her youth, and they started to put her down in public, and as far as I knew, they didn't know her, never met her before, and the kid was about to cry until I stepped in and complimented her and let her know that she's so cute. It's not fair to poke fun of someone. We are the older ones, we are supose to protect kids, not mock them and take away their self esteem, and I would do that for anybody, any race, it's not fair to poke fun and embarass a person. After I stood up to them for her, the ladies just looked at me and they walked away. I've never seen whites do this to each other, NEVER, and I was around them when they were very relaxed being themselves (so I did see and hear a lot), but never seen that crap done to another person.
So, yeah, I have a lot of little stories about blacks and how they treat other blacks to "put them in their place" or harass the person. If you are white, you may miss this b/c the blacks who do this are in the past (mentally) and they are still kinda scared of you, thinking if they do this stuff to you, they will be punished really harshly, so they reserve all of the bullshit for other blacks. And I've been in the receiving end of it, and I've been a witness to it. And I like to keep my distance b/c of all the stuff I have seen and has been done to me...does that help? Not exactly, b/c some folks try so much harder to get right in front of you, or try to establish a familiar bond, when it's very clear you want to keep your distance, this distant behavior is done for a reason, if they want to improve anything, change how they teach/train/treat children (how they teach their kids to behave). Trying to sway a person who has been twice bitten, an adult, that's not a smart move, all it does is iritate the matter...I have been bitten so much already and I know the games, better bet is improve commuication within the future generation (kids).
Im sorry but I know exactly what you're talking about.
Originally posted by OncewhiteLike I said before it's to a degree and relative. My current area doesn't have these problems at all. However you meet people here and there, (particularly people of two generations ago), who still hold these beliefs. They don't erase their beliefs, they simply react differently to me because of the way I appear, dress, or talk. They aren't overcoming anything as much as a person who typically doesn't like one race of women and think a particular person of that race can still be attractive. Unless they weren't to think of that same way again, which generally isn't always true.
Then the compliment you owe is not solely to yourself, but also to the group who is able to overcome their own prejudice and accept you (as you are, as I assume you behave the way you do b/c it's intrinsic, not b/c you are putting on a show or an act, so if you are genuine, that's an excellent quality, but do know that the ones who are around you deserve the credit too, the credit of overcoming their own prejudices, that states a lot about "white racists" doesn't it?)
Furthermore people of the same race discriminate. You won't have to look hard to find a black person who would say: "If a black guy came in here looking for a job with an afro and baggy clothes, I would be more inclined to hire the white guy".
Why is this? Well usually "white" characteristics are associated with success because most of the standard in America is set by their culture, along with the genre and subgenres of that particular culture. Straight hair, "normal pants", speaking "white" (properly), are what set the standards. While most "black" characteristics are considered "bad".
But that's just the way it is...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Like I said before it's to a degree and relative. My current area doesn't have these problems at all. However you meet people here and there, (particularly people of two generations ago), who still hold these beliefs. They don't erase their beliefs, they simply react differently to me because of the way I appear, dress, or talk. They aren't overcoming anything as much as a person who typically doesn't like one race of women and think a particular person of that race can still be attractive. Unless they weren't to think of that same way again, which generally isn't always true.
What do you consider 1 generation, 20-25 years? The ones who react differently to you based on your characteristics are not disliking you for your race, they are liking you for your behavior.
Furthermore people of the same race discriminate. You won't have to look hard to find a black person who would say: "If a black guy came in here looking for a job with an afro and baggy clothes, I would be more inclined to hire the white guy".
Maybe b/c they would feel that the thug like presentation is an invitation to a hard-headed coworker who will make a challenge out of every instruction.
Why is this? Well usually "white" characteristics are associated with success because most of the standard in America is set by their culture, along with the genre and subgenres of that particular culture. Straight hair, "normal pants", speaking "white" (properly), are what set the standards. While most "black" characteristics are considered "bad".But that's just the way it is...
Fair question. When Egypt dominated the world or their world, there is archaeological evidence of white women wearing braided wigs, they know the women aree white b/c of bone structure and the preserved hair samples. "White" is the standard b/c they are leading in technology and defense (aka intelligence), so, it's a bit stupid not to follow what's intelligent, again, when Egypt was in her prime, even the females who weren't black wore wigs that appeared "blackish" the braided hair/wig was puffy and kinky-like, not silky and totally straight. And, even the Greeks had pictures of their own heroes in black skin. Many of the great heroes in this country (the same style copied by the Greeks), have had their statues in black or bronzed. So, are they haters of their own race by bronzing the pictures of their heros? Were the white women in Eygpt haters of their own race by wearing black wigs? At one time, Eygpt had the intelligence of defense and social progress (math and science). They had the influence from the kingdom of Cush, which included Ethiopia, Sudan, Iraq (Sumer), and Southern India.
Please be careful who you talk to, I know you get along with everyone, but be choisy, watch what influences you, don't let the things that some blacks say capture your imagination, if I had to do it all again, that would be one of the major overhauls of my life, but since I can't do it all again, I can only pass on my best intended advice to a younger person.
Originally posted by OncewhiteBasically my grandparents were what I'd say are two generations ago. My grandmother still says "colored". My Stepdad's father is about 90 but he'll call a white man my age "sir" because he did it when he was younger.
What do you consider 1 generation, 20-25 years?
Originally posted by Oncewhite
The ones who react differently to you based on your characteristics are not disliking you for your race, they are liking you for your behavior.
Physical attractiveness, intelligence, humor, etc, are all things that often get a person better treatment, regardless of race (like you said). The more of those characteristics you have, the better off you are in getting people to like you.
Originally posted by Oncewhite
Maybe b/c they would feel that the thug like presentation is an invitation to a hard-headed coworker who will make a challenge out of every instruction.
I agree, but this goes with my point that most characteristics associated with "black" are associated with "failure" or "negativity". Thugs and "ghettos" have been out for a long time, and "ghetto" wasn't even a term originated for AA's.
Originally posted by Oncewhite
Fair question. When Egypt dominated the world or their world, there is archaeological evidence of white women wearing braided wigs, they know the women aree white b/c of bone structure and the preserved hair samples. "White" is the standard b/c they are leading in technology and defense (aka intelligence), so, it's a bit stupid not to follow what's intelligent, again, when Egypt was in her prime, even the females who weren't black wore wigs that appeared "blackish" the braided hair/wig was puffy and kinky-like, not silky and totally straight. And, even the Greeks had pictures of their own heroes in black skin. Many of the great heroes in this country (the same style copied by the Greeks), have had their statues in black or bronzed. So, are they haters of their own race by bronzing the pictures of their heros? Were the white women in Eygpt haters of their own race by wearing black wigs? At one time, Eygpt had the intelligence of defense and social progress (math and science). They had the influence from the kingdom of Cush, which included Ethiopia, Sudan, Iraq (Sumer), and Southern India.
Originally posted by OncewhiteI don't do that at all, I love all people the same based on their character and who they are. I've had relationships with people of different races, and I feel honored and privileged to go to an area with blending of different races and cultures. ✅
Please be careful who you talk to, I know you get along with everyone, but be choisy, watch what influences you, don't let the things that some blacks say capture your imagination, if I had to do it all again, that would be one of the major overhauls of my life, but since I can't do it all again, I can only pass on my best intended advice to a younger person.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Basically my grandparents were what I'd say are two generations ago. My grandmother still says "colored". My Stepdad's father is about 90 but he'll call a white man my age "sir" because he did it when he was younger.I agree completely. My point is that if I "looked" like the "stereotypical" this or that, or acted that way, I'd fill in their stereotype that they had in mind.
If you fit the stereotype, you would be treated just like a person who dressed the part of a prostitute, the problem is with what she or he is representing....if you represent a thug, then, yeah, you will find that people will expect you to be rebellious (for the sake of it), clickish, and promoting that it's cool to degrade white culture...
Physical attractiveness, intelligence, humor, etc, are all things that often get a person better treatment, regardless of race (like you said). The more of those characteristics you have, the better off you are in getting people to like you.
Yes, that sums it up well. But my issue isn't with whites, it's with how blacks manage in teaching negative things to black youth or impressionable blacks or people of color, or whites who are susceptible.
I agree, but this goes with my point that most characteristics associated with "black" are associated with "failure" or "negativity". Thugs and "ghettos" have been out for a long time, and "ghetto" wasn't even a term originated for AA's.
That's not true. Black is associated with physical prowess and quick robotic like muscle memory.
Which goes with my point that society and culture sets the norm for what is good or bad, and seeing as America is "led" by white, then their actions or beliefs would be considered "good".
I've been around whites who hate white trash...and I hate that word (white trash) as much as I hate the word (n_gger), but you don't see wt calling each other wt in a cool fashion, but u hear blacks doing that.
I don't do that at all, I love all people the same based on their character and who they are. I've had relationships with people of different races, and I feel honored and privileged to go to an area with blending of different races and cultures. ✅
That's great. Your personality has rewarded you the sense of adventure.
Originally posted by Oncewhite
If you fit the stereotype, you would be treated just like a person who dressed the part of a prostitute, the problem is with what she or he is representing....if you represent a thug, then, yeah, you will find that people will expect you to be rebellious (for the sake of it), clickish, and promote that it's cool to degrade white culture...
Exactly. Now all people who dress this way don't think this way, they may just try to fit in. Even though I hate "cliques" my point is still that the black one would be associated with that most often.
Originally posted by Oncewhite
Yes, that sums it up well. But my issue isn't with whites, it's with how blacks manage in teaching negative things to black youth or impressionable blacks or people of color, or whites who are susceptible.
I agree with that as well, it should be responsibility in teaching youth correctly all around.
Originally posted by Oncewhite
That's not true. Black is associated with physical prowess and quick robotic like muscle memory.
I meant more or less styles of dress and attitude. Not actual physicalility, although you are right.
Originally posted by Oncewhite
I've been around whites who hate white trash...and I hate that word (white trash) as much as I hate the word (n_gger), but you don't see wt calling each other wt in a cool fashion, but u hear blacks doing that.
Originally posted by Oncewhite😊
That's great. Your personality has rewarded you the sense of adventure.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Exactly. Now all people who dress this way don't think this way, they may just try to fit in. Even though I hate "cliques" my point is still that the black one would be associated with that most often.I agree with that as well, it should be responsibility in teaching youth correctly all around.
I meant more or less styles of dress and attitude. Not actual physicalility, although you are right.
I don't like "cra*er" either, I think they are harsh and unnecessary. Black culture made the "N" word their own meaning, and feel when other races use it that it's oppressive. I myself like to be called by my name. And that is what I answer to. ✅
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I can see why you are well liked.
I seem to feel that whites who have tattoos or the old grunge look or wear long uncombed hair aren't going to find their style much appreciated, but I could be wrong...although I do "people watch" and have noticed that the thug personification of the white bad boy isn't necessarily appreciated in a conservative town and not exactly exalted very often.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im sorry but I know exactly what you're talking about.
You do? Oh boy, sorry you ever had to go through what I have, at one time, I thought it was just me and on another note, I feel better knowing others didn't have to live as miserable, now that I know this isn't true, that others have had to deal with similar crap, I feel badly that this has become an acceptable social behavior within certain clicks.
Originally posted by Oncewhite
As in Washington DC? You have to be kidding me. If you come from money, you can exit out of the reg. black areas and grace yourself among the rich ones, so yeah, in any case, the rich are usually kind, esp. to their own. But, if you are a working class person, and you are BLACK, the n_gger crowd will try to show you "how it really be". And it's a multi-cultural place, but people stick within their own race and narrow view of one another. If a person looks black (Ethiopian) but around Hispanics (I am black Hispanic by the way), they may find that other races of minorities will treat them like they are thuggish African Americans, I've seen that before, not cool. I can tell the difference b/t a thug or a black person who hates white culture, hates proper diction, and dress style. But before some open their mouths, they maybe made fun of or "put in their place" to remind them that they should be one of the crowd.I use to live in Atlanta. I can tell you this much, I was at a beauty shop 4 years ago there, and there was an AA girl (17ish), very light color but with a slightly broad nose. Do you know what happened? 4-5 black WOMEN (25+) came up to her and started making fun of her nose, I was like wtf? These women were older then her, and she can't help her nose as much as they can help their skin color, see these ladies all had straight noses but they weren't light colored. And can you believe that they looked at me to join into their attack on this kid? I was ashamed, for starters, they are older and should provide a good example, instead, it was like they mocked her as one of the characters did in the book/movie "Memoirs of a Geisha", maybe they were jealous of her in some way, maybe it was her youth, and they started to put her down in public, and as far as I knew, they didn't know her, never met her before, and the kid was about to cry until I stepped in and complimented her and let her know that she's so cute. It's not fair to poke fun of someone. We are the older ones, we are supose to protect kids, not mock them and take away their self esteem, and I would do that for anybody, any race, it's not fair to poke fun and embarass a person. After I stood up to them for her, the ladies just looked at me and they walked away. I've never seen whites do this to each other, NEVER, and I was around them when they were very relaxed being themselves (so I did see and hear a lot), but never seen that crap done to another person.
So, yeah, I have a lot of little stories about blacks and how they treat other blacks to "put them in their place" or harass the person. If you are white, you may miss this b/c the blacks who do this are in the past (mentally) and they are still kinda scared of you, thinking if they do this stuff to you, they will be punished really harshly, so they reserve all of the bullshit for other blacks. And I've been in the receiving end of it, and I've been a witness to it. And I like to keep my distance b/c of all the stuff I have seen and has been done to me...does that help? Not exactly, b/c some folks try so much harder to get right in front of you, or try to establish a familiar bond, when it's very clear you want to keep your distance, this distant behavior is done for a reason, if they want to improve anything, change how they teach/train/treat children (how they teach their kids to behave). Trying to sway a person who has been twice bitten, an adult, that's not a smart move, all it does is iritate the matter...I have been bitten so much already and I know the games, better bet is improve commuication within the future generation (kids).
Who would read all that?????
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