Kazuya Mishima vs. Terry Bogard

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Sado22 Restricted

Kaz will put up a decent fight, especially with projectiles banned. But in the end, he's just outclassed. It's a fact that DOA/Tekken is inferior to SF/KOF.

rubbish. Kaz can match any of the non-godtier characters of SF or KoF pound for pound. name one character from SF/KoF who can do what Kazy does...........heck name one person from SF/KoF who can tear off the top of a tank and toss it 30 feet away into people (notice how the person who does this in Tekken series is ONLY MID TIER).

It's funny how Tekken and DOA fans assume just becuase a SF/KOF fan backs a SF/KOF character they automaticly assume the fan believes it's a one sided fight.

dude, that so applies to all of us here. am i the only person who notices a steady bias against 3D fighters? TP says they are outclassed. did Cloud or me or any of the other 3D people say something like that...not to mention how TP conveniently avoids doing this debate with me. I've asked him and argued with him regarding this issue before but he always does an "ashura senpuu or whatever" and disappears.
I ask YOU? how and why are 3D fighters always conveniently outclassed?
you call me Ryu hater, but everytime at least i say why and go into detail. i didn't come out here syaing Terry pwns Kazuya without giving any reason and just claiming that 3D fighters are just pwned and outlcassed...*cough*TP*cough*

~The anti-3D discrimination Sado-sama

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Minus ki, you'd be right. But the fact that Terry CAN make projectile blasts, speed forward on burn knuckle, etc, means that he is far stronger than Kazuya. Or didn't you figure out that an large outward display of ki means a person is stronger? Ki takes time, skill and ability to learn to use. And if a person can manifest that kind of outward and visible manifestation of ki, it means they are obviously stronger than a person who can't. Ki is LIFE ENERGY, meaning, it's an indicator of how much personal power a person has.

And Sado? The reason I've been avoiding the issue because about a month ago, a couple of guys did the same thing you and others are doing. Having fights with Tekken vs. SF. Except, like you guys, they failed to reckon that the two are in different weight classes, power-wise. I was one of a couple of people who argued in that debate, and then as now, I sided with SF.

and the word is Ashura Senkuu. 😛

Sado22 Restricted

Minus ki, you'd be right. But the fact that Terry CAN make projectile blasts, speed forward on burn knuckle, etc, means that he is far stronger than Kazuya. Or didn't you figure out that an large outward display of ki means a person is stronger? Ki takes time, skill and ability to learn to use. And if a person can manifest that kind of outward and visible manifestation of ki, it means they are obviously stronger than a person who can't. Ki is LIFE ENERGY, meaning, it's an indicator of how much personal power a person has

well Kazuya and the gang in Tekken can also use Ki based moves, techinically speaking since we have the electricity thing going. Also lets talk of their physcial feets. you're saying 2D fighters are stronger cuz they can perform ki moves, and you may very well be right, however, the fact of the matter remains that when it comes to physical strength and feets the peeople of Tekken have done and shown better. Aside from Ryu picking up that rock in SF33rdstrike (which was curtosy Oro) no one (in the non-godtier list) has peformed feets like the people of Tekken. also Devil Jin, Ogre, Devil etc. peform ki moves and those moves have shown MUCH destructive power than the SF or KoF gang. Devil Jin who only had a part of Devil in him was able to wreck a whole forest. however, they were all beaten by human beings. People like Heihachi can beat things like Devil, Jin beat Ogre whose light punch blew up a helicopter, and possibly Kazuya beat Jinpachi who literally is capable of destroying the world. not one character of SF or KoF can do all that. heck i don't know any character who can jump off a sky scraper with a bike. Xiao is a little girl but she held her own against people with guns and is capable of kicking people really high in the air or blasting them far......and she's only low or midtier. these are really inhuman feets you know. you are right that ki does mean something but it doesn't mean a match shifter nor does it mean they are stronger. the fact that Tekken characters can do literally inhuman feet tips the scale in their favor. When was the last time a body blow from the regular KoF or SF cast sent people flying or rolling 20 feet away? when was the last time the regular cast of Kof or SF could shatter a humansized boulder to bits? never.

and the word is Ashura Senkuu.

shoosh! 😠
😄

~The Supreme Master of Spamming Sado-sama

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Marduk can rip apart wrestling ring ropes with his bare hands...

Remulous Frisky Wolf Lord

Originally posted by Sado22

you call me Ryu hater,

Are you suggesting that you are not? You get so hostile as if I insulted you. There is nothing wrong with that. You just hate Ryu, I hate Nintendo and Ryo. When I call you a Ryu hater you should be like "Sure am".
Originally posted by Sado22
dude, that so applies to all of us here. am i the only person who notices a steady bias against 3D fighters? TP says they are outclassed. did Cloud or me or any of the other 3D people say something like that...not to mention how TP conveniently avoids doing this debate with me. I've asked him and argued with him regarding this issue before but he always does an "ashura senpuu or whatever" and disappears.
I ask YOU? how and why are 3D fighters always conveniently outclassed? everytime at least i say why and go into detail. i didn't come out here syaing Terry pwns Kazuya without giving any reason and just claiming that 3D fighters are just pwned and outlcassed...*cough*TP*cough*

~The anti-3D discrimination Sado-sama

You 3d lovers are always hostile. And ready to argue over the tiniest things instead of debating over what counts. For instence, A thread can be made with a 2d fighter vs a 3d fighter, If I were to say I think the 2d fighter would win, you guys automaticly think that I think it's a curbstomp. I say Terry would win beause even though Kaz took the roof of a tank, Terry took off the roof of a buiding. Has anyone ever seen the Power Stream attack? Even though Terry can't use chi in this match the power he weilds with the chi attacks is still in him. Kazuya got beat by Hach, Hach can't beat Geese, yet Terry beat Geese. That is my beleif.

Do I really need to go into why Geese will beat Hach especialy if he has the Jin Scrolls? Being knowledgable of both Tekken and Fatal Fury, you should already know why Geese will win.

Superboy Prime Fanboy

Kazuya can easily low parry Terry's pathetic projectile blasts.

Kazuya has enough force to seriously hurt Terry.

Burn Knuckles doesn't mean Terry's stronger than Kazuya. What made you come up with that?

Kazuya has lots of endurance, and it will take a beating of hellish proportions to take him out.

I am undecided though, but I have to comment that Kazuya is a nice match for Terry. That is of course if Kazuya isn't jobbing like he usually does.

StyleTime Senior Member

I don't think it's impossible for Kazuya to win. He probably won't take a majority though.

Sado22 Restricted

Are you suggesting that you are not? You get so hostile as if I insulted you. There is nothing wrong with that. You just hate Ryu, I hate Nintendo and Ryo. When I call you a Ryu hater you should be like "Sure am".

dude how can i "hate" ryu when he's on number 10 on my top ten list? what's wrong with you?🙁
and whose hostile here, dude? me? come on...get serious (no terry puns intended). i just don't put him above certain characters that is all.

You 3d lovers are always hostile. And ready to argue over the tiniest things instead of debating over what counts. For instence, A thread can be made with a 2d fighter vs a 3d fighter, If I were to say I think the 2d fighter would win, you guys automaticly think that I think it's a curbstomp. I say Terry would win beause even though Kaz took the roof of a tank, Terry took off the roof of a buiding. Has anyone ever seen the Power Stream attack? Even though Terry can't use chi in this match the power he weilds with the chi attacks is still in him. Kazuya got beat by Hach, Hach can't beat Geese, yet Terry beat Geese. That is my beleif.

no one's hostile mang. i didn't even blame you for saying terry would curbstomp terry. that was cRoudO. also Kazy didn't take the roof off a building it was bryan fury. and terry ddin't take the top off the building either unless you're considering a non-canon anime. also if you wanna talk about chi...the way i see it, the people in tekken can blast people away with even some basic punches. kazuya sends people literally flying with just a right uppercut. that's some power. when was the last time ryu, terry, kyo or anyone sent people flying with a basic uppercut anyway?

Do I really need to go into why Geese will beat Hach especialy if he has the Jin Scrolls? Being knowledgable of both Tekken and Fatal Fury, you should already know why Geese will win.

do i need to tell you that Hachi beat a demon that shoots lazer beams that even in a weaker version (Devil Jin) can literally turn a lush green forest into a wasteland? Hachi beat him with his barehands! Not to mention how Devil can even fly. Geese can't fly the last time i checked...unless his huge pajamas can act as a parachute 😄

Sado: SHORYA!!!!

~The King of Iron Fists Sado-sama

beta ray bob Back from social life

HORAYYYY!! KAZUYA BEATS ANOTHER!!(possibly)

Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by Sado22
Geese can't fly the last time i checked...unless his huge pajamas can act as a parachute 😄

LMAO

Ignore TricksterPriest he's just biased against 3-D fighters.

beta ray bob Back from social life

3-d fighters kick the ass!!, i hated king of fighters,until king of fighters 2006.

Remulous Frisky Wolf Lord

Originally posted by Sado22

no one's hostile mang. i didn't even blame you for saying terry would curbstomp terry. that was cRoudO. also Kazy didn't take the roof off a building it was bryan fury. and terry ddin't take the top off the building either unless you're considering a non-canon anime. also if you wanna talk about chi...the way i see it, the people in tekken can blast people away with even some basic punches. kazuya sends people literally flying with just a right uppercut. that's some power. when was the last time ryu, terry, kyo or anyone sent people flying with a basic uppercut anyway?

The movies may be none canon but it shows how they fight and howstrong they are outside of the video games. Terry and the 2d gang send people flying al the time. Also, you have to ask your self, how often do Terry and the gang fight flunkies and not the main enemy, unlike tekken who makes the character fight a gang of nobodies like it's Final Fight or something. Also Ryu, Terry, Kyo don't just send people flying, they usually mutilate or completely obliterate them.

Originally posted by Sado22
do i need to tell you that Hachi beat a demon that shoots lazer beams that even in a weaker version (Devil Jin) can literally turn a lush green forest into a wasteland? Hachi beat him with his barehands! Not to mention how Devil can even fly. Geese can't fly the last time i checked
Devil may shoot out lasers but Geese fires Reppukens and Raiging Storms. For 1 thing that "lush green forest" wasn't even that big. And flying isn't every thing, Bison can fly and he got murdered by a guy who couldn't fly.
Originally posted by Sado22
unless his huge pajamas can act as a parachute 😄
😆

GO BEARS!!!

beta ray bob Back from social life

*kazuya punches the metal plate on terry's hat and breaks a finger*

P-Geyser Saraya-Jade Maniac
Originally posted by beta ray bob
*kazuya punches the metal plate on terry's hat and breaks a finger*

😆 😆

Sado22 Restricted

kazuya punches the metal plate on terry's hat and breaks a finger*

😆
but i'm kinda worried about what's left of Terry's head? 🙁

~The Iron Fist Sado-sama

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Nah, here's what'll happen. And this scene happened twice in the Fatal Fury movies. Which isn't canon, but it's exactly what Terry would do IMO. Terry took a sock to the jaw. stands there and takes the punch. doesn't turn away from it. He then turns and looks at the person, grins, and then decks them. That's what'll happen to Kazuya. That one punch will seriously unnerve Kazuya. Terry's jaw may hurt abit, but the psychological warfare of doing that will psyche Kazuya out a little. It'll be a a decent fight, but more for Kaz putting up a good fight against ludicrous odds.

This thread is a joke. Superboy Prime, Sado and Cloud are proving their lack of logical facilities and their wanking of Tekken is getting rediculous. It's not prejudice against 3D, it's recoqnizing that most 3D fighters are weaker than their 2D counterparts, simply because of the use of ki. Very few 3D games use outward displays of ki or have the outrageous power of 2D games. This is an established pattern. To say otherwise is to ignore the facts.

I'm pming Darkstorm, this is his area of arguing.

Cloud_VII Restricted

So you're basically saying that since Superman doesn't have ki attacks...someone like Akuma is stronger than him? 😆

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

What are you, ignorant? Superman's entire body is loaded with solar energy. Think about it. He absorbs solar energy, it manifests as an invisible field around his body. Some versions could actually manifest it as visible, like the Eradicator.

So in essence, Superman is a living solar battery, or rather a solar ki battery. 😛

brainchild81 Privateer

As much as I like Kazuya & as much as I'd like for Kazuya to beat the living sh*t outta Terry, Terry still wins IMO 🙁

Cloud_VII Restricted

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
What are you, ignorant? Superman's entire body is loaded with solar energy. Think about it. He absorbs solar energy, it manifests as an invisible field around his body. Some versions could actually manifest it as visible, like the Eradicator.

So in essence, Superman is a living solar battery, or rather a solar ki battery. 😛


It looks like you're the one who's ignorant, since Kazuya and even the entire Mishima family have energy flowing through them. You were saying that characters who don't have ki attacks are weaker than the ones who do. In Tekken, when any of the Mishimas are doing their special moves, their bodies are covered with electricity. Not only that, Heihachi can block a sword with his hand, and can take a massive explosion and still be intact afterwards. Also, Kazuya's power is Devil's power. In his Devil form, he can shoot beams. Bottom line is, characters who use ki attacks aren't neccessarily stronger that the ones who don't.

Cloud doesn't have ki attacks...but I know someone like Ryu isn't capable of beating him.