Originally posted by AllianceActually, without taking my faith into account think that God would still be more interesting. Satan would tell you many things, but God would tell you only the truth and could fully answer all your questions in the way that you can understand it. That would make Him a very awesome person to talk to.
Satan would be much more interesting to meet than god.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Actually, without taking my faith into account think that God would still be more interesting. Satan would tell you many things, but God would tell you only the truth and could fully answer all your questions in the way that you can understand it. That would make Him a very awesome person to talk to.
If only he was prepared to do so for people while on earth, when answers would be far more useful.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Actually, without taking my faith into account think that God would still be more interesting. Satan would tell you many things, but God would tell you only the truth and could fully answer all your questions in the way that you can understand it. That would make Him a very awesome person to talk to.
Satan would still be more interesting to talk to. You see he must be SuperCharismatic so talking to him would certainly be interesting.
Satan would still be more interesting to talk to. You see he must be SuperCharismatic so talking to him would certainly be interesting.
And Satan of course would be the more human of the two I suspect. After all, we seem to go through life being told how far God is beyond our ability to really understand, and how to look upon him is impossible...
But then I think of Lucifer Morningstar from the comic, what a character he is.
Satan will allow you to have sex with his succubuses. I heard they have tight pussies.God will not allow you to have sex with angels. Homosexuality is not allowed.
Only in your dreams.
Originally posted by Imperial_SamuraThe answer is... Jesus.
If only he was prepared to do so for people while on earth, when answers would be far more useful.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosYou don't think God would have charisma? I imagine that any charisma that Satan has is more bountiful in God as God knows everything about you and could talk to your sense of humour in ways Satan never could. Those are just my thoughts though.
Satan would still be more interesting to talk to. You see he must be SuperCharismatic so talking to him would certainly be interesting.
Originally posted by Nellinator
You don't think God would have charisma?
Not SuperCharisma 😏. Besides he's never demonstrated any great level of charisma on his own.
Originally posted by Nellinator
I imagine that any charisma that Satan has is more bountiful in God as God knows everything about you and could talk to your sense of humour in ways Satan never could.
I just don't see God cracking jokes (maybe this deserves its own thread)
Originally posted by Nellinator
Actually, without taking my faith into account think that God would still be more interesting. Satan would tell you many things, but God would tell you only the truth and could fully answer all your questions in the way that you can understand it. That would make Him a very awesome person to talk to.
I woulnd't trust God any more than Satan to give me the truth. Truth is something that fools look for. I'm not interested in "the truth."I'm looking for perspective. I'm interested in his person, his character, his version. There are at least two sides to this coin and I'm much more interested in the dynamic one.
In Christian myth, God may be the creator, but Satan moves the world. He is the one that made us human. His perspective is as indispencible and as critical as that of God's and quite frankly, I think it would be the more interesting one.
Christian myth always negates the perspective of the other side...sometimes falsely so.
Take Cain and Abel. I'm on Cain's side. The marked side.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not SuperCharisma 😏. Besides he's never demonstrated any great level of charisma on his own.I just don't see God cracking jokes (maybe this deserves its own thread)
Originally posted by AllianceI'm surprised to hear (or see actually) you say that your not interested in the truth. The question that I would ask is what Satan could tell you that would interest you? I'm confused as to why you would take Cain's side considering he murdered Abel in cold blood and the fact that it's pretty much impossible to have anything against Abel. However, I think you were referring to something more than that so elaboration would help...
I woulnd't trust God any more than Satan to give me the truth. Truth is something that fools look for. I'm not interested in "the truth."I'm looking for perspective. I'm interested in his person, his character, his version. There are at least two sides to this coin and I'm much more interested in the dynamic one.In Christian myth, God may be the creator, but Satan moves the world. He is the one that made us human. His perspective is as indispencible and as critical as that of God's and quite frankly, I think it would be the more interesting one.
Christian myth always negates the perspective of the other side...sometimes falsely so.Take Cain and Abel. I'm on Cain's side. The marked side.
Originally posted by Nellinator
The answer is... Jesus.
"Satan would tell you many things, but God would tell you only the truth and could fully answer all your questions in the way that you can understand it. "
Somehow "Jesus" doesn't actually seem to be an answer to really any of my questions - be they matters of logic, rationality, history, practicality, morality and so on. Unless I am asking "How do Christians believe one gets to Heaven" (Through Jesus) or "Who was born from a Virgin" - then Jesus is the answer. And it certainly doesn't make any sense to me to just answer Jesus to them all. In fact that answer is as bad as the one in some other thread - I ask questions and am told the answer to them all is "love." "The only real answer is that God is love." - ummm, ok.
So in essence it doesn't matter what my questions are, there is essentially a rubber stamp answer that, when one reads between the lines, has a deeper meaning of "Best not ask those questions. Just accept Jesus."
I woulnd't trust God any more than Satan to give me the truth. Truth is something that fools look for. I'm not interested in "the truth."I'm looking for perspective. I'm interested in his person, his character, his version. There are at least two sides to this coin and I'm much more interested in the dynamic one.In Christian myth, God may be the creator, but Satan moves the world. He is the one that made us human. His perspective is as indispencible and as critical as that of God's and quite frankly, I think it would be the more interesting one.
Christian myth always negates the perspective of the other side...sometimes falsely so.Take Cain and Abel. I'm on Cain's side. The marked side.
Well said. Even down to Cain - I always thought Cain got a raw deal.
Originally posted by Imperial_SamuraSome people oversimplify things, but Jesus did teach about many deeper things. Morality was definitely a large part of teachings, especially on the lines of how to live, not how not to live. Jesus came and answered many questions people had and he corrected many misconceptions. And I am fully positive that if Jesus was with you face to face and you asked him about "logic, rationality, or history" he'd be a very knowledgable and helpful person. Practicality and morality are questions I think he's mostly answered in the Bible.
"Satan would tell you many things, but God would tell you only the truth and could fully answer all your questions in the way that you can understand it. "Somehow "Jesus" doesn't actually seem to be an answer to really any of my questions - be they matters of logic, rationality, history, practicality, morality and so on. Unless I am asking "How do Christians believe one gets to Heaven" (Through Jesus) or "Who was born from a Virgin" - then Jesus is the answer. And it certainly doesn't make any sense to me to just answer Jesus to them all. In fact that answer is as bad as the one in some other thread - I ask questions and am told the answer to them all is "love." "The only real answer is that God is love." - ummm, ok.
So in essence it doesn't matter what my questions are, there is essentially a rubber stamp answer that, when one reads between the lines, has a deeper meaning of "Best not ask those questions. Just accept Jesus."
Originally posted by Nellinator
Some people oversimplify things, but Jesus did teach about many deeper things. Morality was definitely a large part of teachings, especially on the lines of how to live, not how not to live. Jesus came and answered many questions people had and he corrected many misconceptions. And I am fully positive that if Jesus was with you face to face and you asked him about "logic, rationality, or history" he'd be a very knowledgable and helpful person. Practicality and morality are questions I think he's mostly answered in the Bible.
"If Jesus was with you face to face" - which seems to be what a said earlier:
"If only he was prepared to do so for people while on earth, when answers would be far more useful."
As to the rest - you would say the Bible is a perfectly clear cut moral guide? That it blends perfectly with human concepts from human rights downward? I question aspects of the Bibles morality (as this forum will attest) and wonder at reasons behind it. Not so much "how should we live our lives" but more "why exactly do you advocate that path" - and "Because God says so/God knows best" has never really been a satisfying reason in my eyes.
In my opinion, truth is an impossibility. Its a fleeting fantasy. Truth is only represented by gods. I am no god.
Satan could tell me (assuming the mythology of course):
1. Where he came from.
2. Why he rebelled.
3. How the war played out.
4. Why/How he created/edited Hell.
5. Why he incarnated himself in intellectual symbols.
6. How/Why did he make men human?
7. How he views God and Christ
8. What role he feels he plays in creation and the lives of humans.
9. What do people do in hell?
10. His plans for the future.
Cain's mark was something more of an air about him—he was a man of whom others were in awe. People, unable to deal appropriately with men of true worth, incorrectly interpreted this sign as indicating that Cain was in some way evil. Abel, being the weaker of the two, was killed.
Scared of Cain, people slandered him since it was their only available revenge. The notion that Cain was marked as evil, then, is to be dismissed as a fabrication of the weak. Cain's mark is a mark of ascendancy, of superiority, and of power.
This interpretation also represents an overthrow of ancient models of good and evil (of which far too many are in practice today) which makes it exactly 1.3 times better.
Originally posted by Alliance
In my opinion, truth is an impossibility. Its a fleeting fantasy. Truth is only represented by gods. I am no god.Satan could tell me (assuming the mythology of course):
1. Where he came from.
2. Why he rebelled.
3. How the war played out.
4. Why/How he created/edited Hell.
5. Why he incarnated himself in intellectual symbols.
6. How/Why did he make men human?
7. How he views God and Christ
8. What role he feels he plays in creation and the lives of humans.
9. What do people do in hell?
10. His plans for the future.Cain's mark was something more of an air about him—he was a man of whom others were in awe. People, unable to deal appropriately with men of true worth, incorrectly interpreted this sign as indicating that Cain was in some way evil. Abel, being the weaker of the two, was killed.
Scared of Cain, people slandered him since it was their only available revenge. The notion that Cain was marked as evil, then, is to be dismissed as a fabrication of the weak. Cain's mark is a mark of ascendancy, of superiority, and of power.
This interpretation also represents an overthrow of ancient models of good and evil (of which far too many are in practice today) which makes it exactly 1.3 times better.
Where are you getting all this stuff about Cain? What are you basing it on?