No wonder Satan despises Christ...

Originally posted by FeceMan
And what if he didn't care either way?

Yes? Was he in the position to care either way? The basis of this thread goes -

Satan was prideful, wanted to be like God, as as a result was cast down, where as Jesus never desired to be God's equal, just went about his business and was raised at the conclusion, thus thumbing the nose at Satan going "Nananana!"

My view is, if Jesus was fully aware of what was coming, then he kind of had the advantage - he didn't need to expect or desire becoming God's equal because he knew that is exactly what was going to happen (where as in Satan's case it didn't matter how good he was or humble or whatever he was never going to be let get higher then he was already.)

Maybe Jesus wouldn't of cared if he was just another soul on death, maybe he would have - the point would be moot because if it is true and he was aware then he was never in any doubt about what was going to happen to him.

Originally posted by Regret
I agree that Jesus is I AM.
But...

Is God the Father "I AM"? No, I do not believe so.

* i'm afraid, you're wrong, my friend... Jesus never told that in John 8:58 that He is the "I AM"... let us read the context of the verse:

"Your ancestor Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad.
The people said, You aren't even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?"
John 8:56-57

* the people are wondering what Jesus had said, and they are obviously perplexed... Jesus said that Abraham saw His day but the people interpreted it the other way around... the people wondered how Jesus saw Abraham...

* but Abraham really did saw Jesus' day... but not because Jeus is the "I AM" but:

"Jesus answered, "The truth is, I existed before Abraham was even born!"
John 8:58

* yes, because Jesus existed long before Abraham was born... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* i'm afraid, you're wrong, my friend... Jesus never told that in John 8:58 that He is the "I AM"... let us read the context of the verse:

"Your ancestor Abraham rejoiced as he looked forward to my coming. He saw it and was glad.
The people said, You aren't even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?"
John 8:56-57

* the people are wondering what Jesus had said, and they are obviously perplexed... Jesus said that [b]Abraham saw His day but the people interpreted it the other way around... the people wondered how Jesus saw Abraham...

* but Abraham really did saw Jesus' day... but not because Jeus is the "I AM" but:

"Jesus answered, "The truth is, I existed before Abraham was even born!"
John 8:58

* yes, because Jesus existed long before Abraham was born... 😉 [/B]

Satan hates God because. He banished him to Hell.

AND HE GAVE THE MAN GOAT HANDS!

Everytime he goes to the bathroom to shave. He tries to pick the razor up with his wittle goat hand. AND IT DROPS! IT DROPS TO THE FLOOR!

Poor Lucifer. cryoh

*Sighs.*

Originally posted by Vathu
Satan hates God because. He banished him to Hell.

AND HE GAVE THE MAN GOAT HANDS!

Everytime he goes to the bathroom to shave. He tries to pick the razor up with his wittle goat hand. AND IT DROPS! IT DROPS TO THE FLOOR!

Poor Lucifer. cryoh

What are you talking about? One of the popular portrayals of Satan is a man with a goats body waist down (like Pan from mythology) but I have never seen a portrayal where his hands were "goat hands" - which doesn't make any sense. Goats don't have hands. And Satan can apparently change his form.

I banish you from these forums for being so making no sense.

Originally posted by Regret
Yes, like most, you also have an interpretation. Interpretations of the Bible are a dime a dozen, mine isn't the same as yours. Your statement is only your interpretation, not necessarily fact.

* no, my friend... read the context, it's not about the NAME of Christ, but His pre-existence... 😉