Wait a minute!!!! I'm confused. 😕 Are ANY of DS's losses Avatars, or real? I know better than to trust Nvr and Devil. The scans show DD getting knocked down, but I'd like to see the whole fight. CAN WE GET SOMEONE WITH ACTUAL CREDIBILITY ON DCU INFO TO REFEREE THIS AND CLEAR THE RECORD? We're arguing over factual information, which means someone has scans, info or something to prove this one way or the other.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wait a minute!!!! I'm confused. 😕 Are ANY of DS's losses Avatars, or real? I know better than to trust Nvr and Devil. The scans show DD getting knocked down, but I'd like to see the whole fight. CAN WE GET SOMEONE WITH ACTUAL CREDIBILITY ON DCU INFO TO REFEREE THIS AND CLEAR THE RECORD? We're arguing over factual information, which means someone has scans, info or something to prove this one way or the other.
Juntai usually pulls up scans of Darkseid saying that some of his avatars were there when he was defeated, and you see a screen with those instances.
However, there's a lot missing. His loss to Superman when he was blinded, when he was thrown into the Source Wall, when he was beaten down and worked at McDonalds, etc.
So, I'd say about a third to a half of his losses were retconned into avatars. You're gonna get people to say that they all were, but it's Darkseid wank, trust me.
🙄 Says the pot calling the kettle black......
Anyway, I asked for someone with ACTUAL credibility on the subject, so pipe down and be quiet, hulk fanboy.
edit: Thanks beta. So some of his losses are avatars and others are unexplained? then where does the DS vs. DD fight fall? Or should I just pm Juntai to ask him, since he seems to be the DS expert here?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wait a minute!!!! I'm confused. 😕 Are ANY of DS's losses Avatars, or real? I know better than to trust Nvr and Devil. The scans show DD getting knocked down, but I'd like to see the whole fight. CAN WE GET SOMEONE WITH ACTUAL CREDIBILITY ON DCU INFO TO REFEREE THIS AND CLEAR THE RECORD? We're arguing over factual information, which means someone has scans, info or something to prove this one way or the other.
NVR lied. or he just didnt have the facts.
I just read the comic 30 min ago. Doomsday was not killed, or even injured in the slightest.
Right after the page where DS hits DD with the OE, we see DD punching through the rocks that fell on top of him and DS is shocked!
he then says somethings like he couldnt believe DD actually SURVIVED (he used that word, meaning DD didnt die and come back) the blast.
Unfortunately I dont have the scans, but it IS MADE VERY CLEAR that DD was not killed, not even close.
I wonder if Nvr knew this and lied on purpose, in which case his credibility in the future should be doubted.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Wait a minute!!!! I'm confused. 😕 Are ANY of DS's losses Avatars, or real? I know better than to trust Nvr and Devil. The scans show DD getting knocked down, but I'd like to see the whole fight. CAN WE GET SOMEONE WITH ACTUAL CREDIBILITY ON DCU INFO TO REFEREE THIS AND CLEAR THE RECORD? We're arguing over factual information, which means someone has scans, info or something to prove this one way or the other.
DD beat Darkseid to death. Anyone in the world saw this in Superman/Doomsday :H/P
Darkseid fanboys could not accept the bad defeat of his favourite char and started to use a ridiculous lie about Avatars.
That's the true and there's nothing to add.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
🙄 Says the pot calling the kettle black......Anyway, I asked for someone with ACTUAL credibility on the subject, so pipe down and be quiet, hulk fanboy.
edit: Thanks beta. So some of his losses are avatars and others are unexplained? then where does the DS vs. DD fight fall? Or should I just pm Juntai to ask him, since he seems to be the DS expert here?
Actually, don't PM either of them. I've got a guy from another forum that knows literally EVERYTHING about the new gods called Izaya. He's from Comic Edge. I talk to him about this stuff.
Juntai is the one who would tell you that all of 'seid's lower showings are avatars.
As for the Doomsday one, there's no instance of saying that it's an avatar, so it's pretty conclusive that is Darkseid.
Originally posted by masterbruce
NVR lied. or he just didnt have the facts.I just read the comic 30 min ago. Doomsday was not killed, or even injured in the slightest.
Right after the page where DS hits DD with the OE, we see DD punching through the rocks that fell on top of him and DS is shocked!
he then says somethings like he couldnt believe DD actually SURVIVED (he used that word, meaning DD didnt die and come back) the blast.
Unfortunately I dont have the scans, but it IS MADE VERY CLEAR that DD was not killed, not even close.
I wonder if Nvr knew this and lied on purpose, in which case his credibility in the future should be doubted.
i'll do the scan by myself, just a moment please 🙂
Oiiii.... *walks up to DevilGoblin and *****-slaps him* What part of: "Shut up, fanboy" do you not get? You have no credibility on this board, and if you were going to post scans, post the whole fight. That does it, I'm pming Draco and Juntai. I want a concrete answer to this, and seeing how the scans in the DS respect thread are unreadable, it seems I have to go to the source.