Draco, I thank you for coming and at least trying. It may not mean much, but I was skeptical of Darkseid before you posted. You've managed to convert at least one person. You have throughly convinced me that Darkseid at his TRUE POWER LEVEL, is abstract level.
But....as Batdude said, most of the other posters in this thread are a lost cause. Oh well, at least you convinced a few people. Hell, Masterbruce agreed with you, which says that not only is he not as dumb as some people think, but that Devilgoblin is the worst kind of fanboy. The kind who ignore on-panel evidence and wanks character beyond their abilities.
Once again, thank you for showing us what Darkseid's capabilites are. 👆
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Draco, I thank you for coming and at least trying. It may not mean much, but I was skeptical of Darkseid before you posted. You've managed to convert at least one person. You have throughly convinced me that Darkseid at his TRUE POWER LEVEL, is abstract level.But....as Batdude said, most of the other posters in this thread are a lost cause. Oh well, at least you convinced a few people. Hell, Masterbruce agreed with you, which says that not only is he not as dumb as some people think, but that Devilgoblin is the worst kind of fanboy. The kind who ignore on-panel evidence and wanks character beyond their abilities.
Once again, thank you for showing us what Darkseid's capabilites are. 👆
*SOB*
Thank you!
I feel so appreciated...
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A few things to address.
In Hunter Prey, Darkseid got merked by DD. We've seen how this fight happens.
You can argue the technicals like it wasn't the true OE, but the writers intentions were to have Darky use his ultimate attack, have it not be enough and then get merked, thus putting DD on a higher level of credibility.
Its in the pages of the tpb, in the authors words.
Now however, the fights been retconned into being an avatar of Uxas.
But Darkseid has been defeated, and twice.
First in Apok Now, and secondly in S/B, where he hid in a farmhouse, and got dumped in the source wall.
And NvrhdCle, the Source Wall didn't help Superman. The fight was over by the time Superman dumped his ass there.
Retcons don't work proactively. Ie, they don't cover future developments. Only whats happened to a point prior to the retcon.
So as of now, Darky was beaten twice by Superman and has two clean losses.
Darkseid isn't abstract level by any means. He's powerful, but being overrated if thats what people are saying.
As for this fight, i'll say Darkseid does to DD what he did to InfinityMan, where he teleported him to a point beyond time and space.
Originally posted by UniOmni
A few things to address.In Hunter Prey, Darkseid got merked by DD. We've seen how this fight happens.
You can argue the technicals like it wasn't the true OE, but the writers intentions were to have Darky use his ultimate attack, have it not be enough and then get merked, thus putting DD on a higher level of credibility.
Its in the pages of the tpb, in the authors words.Now however, the fights been retconned into being an avatar of Uxas.
But Darkseid has been defeated, and twice.
First in Apok Now, and secondly in S/B, where he hid in a farmhouse, and got dumped in the source wall.
And NvrhdCle, the Source Wall didn't help Superman. The fight was over by the time Superman dumped his ass there.Retcons don't work proactively. Ie, they don't cover future developments. Only whats happened to a point prior to the retcon.
So as of now, Darky was beaten twice by Superman and has two clean losses.
Darkseid isn't abstract level by any means. He's powerful, but being overrated if thats what people are saying.
As for this fight, i'll say Darkseid does to DD what he did to InfinityMan, where he teleported him to a point beyond time and space.
Please read my posts.
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Nothing was retconned. There's IS no retcon. Darkseid is still in the Source along with the Highfather...
Originally posted by UniOmni
Highfather is dead iirc, and has been replaced by Takion.
He's not really "dead". He along with Darkseid was absorbed in the Source. After Darkseid attempted to muck with the Source, it went schizo. So Highfather and Darkseid threw themselves into the Source to stabilize it.
Takion served as a replacement for Highfather after Highfather appeared via an avatar with his final words. Unlikely Highfather, however, Darkseid actively chooses to have his avatar do his bidding in the DC multiverse. Highfather doesn't because the "light" side of the Source must remain defense and cannot interfere with the workings of the multiverse.
Originally posted by UniOmni
If Darkseid wasn't defeated in S/B, why would Superman be forced to retrieve a mere avatar from the Source Wall?
Because it was written by a hack named Jeph Loeb who doesn't give a damn about continuity or anything other Superman cock-strocking?
Answer me this? Why is Darkseid currently a black kingpin on Earth? He ISN'T. After destroying New Genesis and finally gaining the Anti-Life Equation, he decided to change his avatar's appearance to suit his new purposes.
Here we see Highfather's (I thought he was dead, UniOmni....) avatar watching Darkseid's avatar finally conquering New Genesis in Seven Soldiers of Victory:
He renamed his avatar "Dark Side" and changed its appearance for his new purposes.
In the last issue of Seven Soldiers of Victory, we finally see TRUE Darkseid as disemobdied spirit hovering over his avatar, Darkside.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I read your posts.I just don't believe there's truth in them, no heat.
You've haven't read them nearly well enough.
It's not about believing. For heaven's sake, it's not religous text. It's fact. On-panel fact.
People here obviously haven't the slightest clue what the heck Darkseid's history is....
Originally posted by UniOmni
No.David Craccelker.
Juggernaut, do you honestly believe that Darkseid is a character on the level of Eternity?
Eternity? No. That's the problem here, it's another example of "let's judge a character's power level on the Marvel scale because that's all we know."
He possesses the Anti-Life Equation.
He possesses the Godwave energy of countless god pantheons
He completely owned Godwave-wielding Ares where Takion, successor of Highfather could barely defend against him.
He can create numerous universes and realities as well as living dimensional beings such as the Omega Sanction.
I wouldn't say he's as powerful as Eternity but he's in a league of his own, that's for sure.
Originally posted by Draco69
✅And Supergirl is able break free from Raven's soul-self according Jeph Loeb.
Something friggin' Trigon couldn't do...
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Originally posted by juggernaut66666
That bastard screwed up Darkseid. 😠
Now he got his hands on Onslaught I pretty much liked him before, but Jeph screwed him aswell.Have you read Onslaught Reborn?
I refuse to read anything with his name on it. I heard Onslaught Reborn was f'ing terrible....
I really pity the Ultimates. I really do....
Originally posted by Draco69
I refuse to read anything with his name on it. I heard Onslaught Reborn was f'ing terrible....I really pity the Ultimates. I really do....
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
In the last issue Captain America was beating the hell out of Onslaught who looked like a monster in an armor he even has a grotesque body under his armor and he fights h2h. I was like WTF?
Ugh.
And people for some reason use Superman/Batman as reputable evidence on this forum.....