Wolverine vs Deadpool

Originally posted by carver9
Everything that you just wrote might be true, like i said deadpool is great but wolverine is greater (not by far.). I love both of these fighters and I dont have a favorite out of the 2 but I have witnessed everything from both of them and seen what they are capable of and wolverine is just to good and relentless for deadpool or spiderman. Weopon x knows who better, why do you think that theyre always trying to get wolverine any way that they can. Apocalypse knows who is better, why do you think that he went through so much trouble to make wolverine a horseman. Magneto knows who is better, why do you think that he went around the globe looking for wolverine so that he can be on his team. The hand knew who was better why do you think that they went through so much trouble to get wolverine to work for them. Shield knows who is better why do you think that they go through so much trouble to get wolverine. Dr. strange knew who was better, why do you think in the infinite gauntlet he hand picked wolverine to take out thanos.

UMMMM maybe because he is insane?

This was addressed in the latest Cable/Deadpool after Deadpool beat Taskmaster whilst handcuffed infront of several Clients to prove how good he is.At the end they all say they knew he was that good,it's just that he can't act professionally,hell Taskmaster concedes that he wasn't holding back and he still got stomped,and that Wade is never hired because he is too insane.

I know very well who Wolverine is, just as everyone else does. What seems to be your issue at hand is that you seem to know little to NOTHING about Deadpool whatsoever. "Wolverine is a guy who would kill his own team mates" Give me a break, DP would kill his own mother if the price was right.

You want to use the more ruthless and would kill quicker rant, use it against someone who isn't a HIGHLY paid mercanary. DP doesn't kill people because he has to, or his team mates turn on him. It's what he does and has always done.

Cyclops...like metalmanx said, don't bring that Ultimate crap in here. Cyclops could easily blow Wolverine from here to the moon with ease, anything other than that is PIS/CIS.

You want to tell someone they don't know something and in the same turn, say DP is Logan's clone... 🙄

Quote from Wiki:

Deadpool is a superb assassin and mercenary. He is a master of multiple forms of armed and unarmed combat. He favors bladed weapons as his primary means of dispatching his enemies as he feels it is more honorable to meet opponents in single combat, but if he is having a bad day or in a hurry he will just shoot them. He typically carries a small arsenal of both experimental hi-tech and conventional firearms and bladed weapons. Deadpool has excellent, believed by many to be perfect, aim (though not with any given object, like Bullseye), which was temporarily destroyed by the Black Swan.

Quote from Wiki:

Wolverine's entire skeleton, including his claws, is molecularly infused with adamantium, rendering it practically indestructible. The adamantium claws can cut almost any known solid material.

Bringing knives to a gunfight...

Sigh...

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
No, deadpool threw his kitana at wolverine, pierceing his shoulder, THEN

wolverine said

"Uh, pool (ouch btw..) youd better look behind you"

saying he was distarcted is PURE, speculation and perhaps bias.

exactly.. the sword in his shoulder was an AFTERTHOUGHT compared to the werewolf.. wonder why?

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
See there it goes again, lets cry about Logans absence of his healing and that being the reason he lost. God forbid that we don't take into account the numerous amount of distractions that wade had in the shroyuken fight.

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but you are the only one even mentioning the "Shoryuken fight".

It's not that no one is taking into account that Deadpool was more insane then normal during that fight, it's that Wolverine fans don't bring up highly circumstantial wins that have no barring what so ever on the debate... Unlike some people.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
A bullet ricochet off the skeleton, hmm, since when does a ricocheting bullet go back directly the way it came? On top of that...how often are people shot that it even hits a bone...

... What is this in response to? 😕

Bullets don't matter to Wolverine, they wouldn't matter to Wolverine even if they could make far enough into his body to hit a vital organ, which they can't. His healing factor heals around the bullet, sapping it's momentum the instant in punctures his flesh. Bullets don't get more then an inch (if that) into his body before they are pushed back through the entry wound... unless they are fired through a rail gun or something.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Acrobatics, aerial, and jumping around in a fight is poor strategy...well I guess Daredevil is just on the downhill slide isn't he.

Spending a substantial amount of time in the air is horrible strategy unless you can fly. When you are airborne you are at the mercy of gravity, you can't alter your momentum and their is a limit to how far one can contort their body.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Wolverine without a healing factor can not beat deadpool...hrmm? Since when does a healing factor make SO much difference in their fighting ability? That's like saying Daredevil or Iron Fist cant beat so and so, because they don't have a healing factor, makes no sense.

Daredevil and Iron Fist can't beat either of them...

Dispite a good show putting on a good show at the starting of the fight, ten times out of ten either of them would lose.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
Were not talking about others though, were talking about Wolverine and Deadpool here. Point being, in a fight or two, yes Wolverine may of been out his HF, and lost. DP was out of his mind, hallucinating, distracted by the possibility and future fight with T-Ray, along with also trying his damnest to PISS Wolverine off and still manages to keep an upper hand. DP had a lot more against him and kept an upper hand, Wolverine had his healing against him and lost..

😕

Deadpool didn't have the upper hand in that "Shoryuken fight". Wolverine was in control at the beginning of the fight until his friend was shot, Deadpool was briefly in control in the middle of the fight and Wolverine dominated the end of the fight. Maybe you should re-read the issue?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool didn't have the upper hand in that "Shoryuken fight". Wolverine was in control at the beginning of the fight until his friend was shot, Deadpool was briefly in control in the middle of the fight and Wolverine dominated the end of the fight. Maybe you should re-read the issue?

Where was Wolverine ever in control of that fight? Now I'm not saying I think Logan can beat Wade or vice versa, but in that particular instance I don't recall either of them with an upper hand until Wade literally turned his back on Wolverine during the fight

Originally posted by marvelprince
Where was Wolverine ever in control of that fight? Now I'm not saying I think Logan can beat Wade or vice versa, but in that particular instance I don't recall either of them with an upper hand until Wade literally turned his back on Wolverine during the fight

The start of the fight: Wolverine is chasing Deadpool across some roofs, he claws DP shoulder an pins him. Wolverine was in control.

Middle of the fight: Deadpool shoots Wolverine's friend. He grabs Wolverine's wrist on his fallow through and kicks out his knee. Deadpool briefly in control.

End of the Fight: Wolverine claws Deadpool's face, balances out of reach of DP's sword with one arm on DP's head, and takes a pound of flesh from DP's back before he is kicked away. DP is distracted when Wolverine comes in again and skewers him. Wolverine was in control.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The start of the fight: Wolverine is chasing Deadpool across some roofs, he claws DP shoulder an pins him. Wolverine was in control.

😂 Are you serious? Wade is just babbling on and even though he's mocing backward neither of them have a distinct advantage over the other. In fact that bodes worse for Logan who is genuinely pissed while Deadpool is still seeing bunnies and hotties.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Middle of the fight: Deadpool shoots Wolverine's friend. He grabs Wolverine's wrist on his fallow through and kicks out his knee. Deadpool briefly in control.

Wolverine was distracted by his friend being shot. I wouldn't count that one

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
End of the Fight: Wolverine claws Deadpool's face, balances out of reach of DP's sword with one arm on DP's head, and takes a pound of flesh from DP's back before he is kicked away. DP is distracted when Wolverine comes in again and skewers him. Wolverine was in control.

Wolverine gets the edge cause Deadpool is trying to discover his "breakthrough". He isn't even bothering to fight back as he's geniunely listening to Wolverine's advice. Again I say neither

Beginning of the fight: DP KO's Kitty Pride just to piss Logan off to get him to fight. Logan lunges at DP blocks the lunge with his right arm, with his left ready to slash with a bladed weapon mimicing wolverines. Proceeds to swing around a horizontal flag pole( agility!) causing wolverine to miss again. Then proceeds to jump above his head pushing his head down(agility again) and then proceeds to block another of Logans slashes with his right arm. It is then that he proceeds to stab Wolverine in this left side. Wolverine then Lunges again at DP, getting a stab in, DP proceeds to then shoot logans friends. DP takes a bootm, they both slash at each other, DP catches Wolverines arm, and leg sweeps him to the ground. DP starts having hallucinations again WHILE Wolverine is sitting on the ground with DP still standing.

Notice I said the hallucinations kick in full force now, so Wade really isn't paying any attention to Logan.

Wolverine takes a jump over his head and a slash at his back, Wade moves behind Wolverine to take another sword slash at him. DP's full attention is now COMPLETELY on the hallucinations aka. He isn't looking at or paying attention to Logan whatsoever. Its then Wolverine gets his "supposed" upper hand, on a DP that is paying him no attention what so ever due to the pretty girl and bunny rabbit hallucinations he is having.

That alone states DP had a upper hand and was in control of the fight until his attention was paid more towards the hallucinations than Logan...

Maybe you should reread the issue?

As I have stated many times already. Using wolverien and DP fight's are a bad idea since there shredded with plot devices, massive one sided prep and lack of healing factor.

We have to go by there other feat's in whcih case Logan just has superior showing of martial art's skill and is alway's listed as a level beyond wade.

Logan also has superior durabilty and has superior reflex feat's

Originally posted by Dreampanther
Quote from Wiki:

Deadpool is a superb assassin and mercenary. He is a master of multiple forms of armed and unarmed combat. He favors bladed weapons as his primary means of dispatching his enemies as he feels it is more honorable to meet opponents in single combat, but if he is having a bad day or in a hurry he will just shoot them. He typically carries a small arsenal of both experimental hi-tech and conventional firearms and bladed weapons. Deadpool has excellent, believed by many to be perfect, aim (though not with any given object, like Bullseye), which was temporarily destroyed by the Black Swan.

Quote from Wiki:

Wolverine's entire skeleton, including his claws, is molecularly infused with adamantium, rendering it practically indestructible. The adamantium claws can cut almost any known solid material.

Bringing knives to a gunfight...

Sigh...

Originally posted by jinzin
exactly.. the sword in his shoulder was an AFTERTHOUGHT compared to the werewolf.. wonder why?

It could be that wolverine (and this is common in speech patterns) was speaking, and decided to interrupt his sentence and comment on the fact that "ouch, that hurt!" mid sentence. taken for face value and nothing more.

This is the likely reason.

On the other hand, nothing on panel indicates that the ONLY reason he was hit by the kitana was becuse he was distracted by the wearwolf. Conversely, logan in the cell prior to the one of the kitana in his shoulder was seen kneeling, not completely oriented (as he was just thrown to the wall by deadpool). So we have some evidence, or rather the assumed evidence; and then we have pure speculation.

Its nice to think outside of the box, but i think blameing wolverine's getting impaled by the fact that he was distracted by the wearwolf despite the fact that he could have VERY well spotted it as he was stuck on the wall (which is probably the case, as implied withinn the cells) and not to mention deadpool was clearly trying to get away from logan because he had a job to do -- which he stated earlier as well.

again, the logan distraction accuzation is being a bit over zealous. You are certialy entitled to think that is the case, but unfortunately, that conclusion can only be made with convulted logic and reading too deeply into it into things that perhaps, are not even there.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
It could be that wolverine (and this is common in speech patterns) was speaking, and decided to interrupt his sentence and comment on the fact that "ouch, that hurt!" mid sentence. taken for face value and nothing more.

This is the likely reason.

On the other hand, nothing on panel indicates that the ONLY reason he was hit by the kitana was becuse he was distracted by the wearwolf. Conversely, logan in the cell prior to the one of the kitana in his shoulder was seen kneeling, not completely oriented (as he was just thrown to the wall by deadpool). So we have some evidence, or rather the assumed evidence; and then we have pure speculation.

Its nice to think outside of the box, but i think blameing wolverine's getting impaled by the fact that he was distracted by the wearwolf despite the fact that he could have VERY well spotted it as he was stuck on the wall (which is probably the case, as implied withinn the cells) and not to mention deadpool was clearly trying to get away from logan because he had a job to do -- which he stated earlier as well.

again, the logan distraction accuzation is being a bit over zealous. You are certialy entitled to think that is the case, but unfortunately, that conclusion can only be made with convulted logic and reading too deeply into it into things that perhaps, are not even there.

You didnt read the book at all. Deadpool didnt throw wolverine into the wall (Im sitting here looking at the book right now.), wolverine got up after they crashed through a glass roof and deadpool threw a sword at wolverine shoulder. He never threw him but in that book, wolverine was mud stomping deadpool, the entire time and we wouldnt have known how it would have ended if that wolf didnt show up. I dont even know why we are bothering to debate on this when we have 2 almost unbeatable people fighting against each other. A better fight would be spiderman vs deadpool (in which I think that deadpool would mop the floor with spiderman) or deadpool vs deathstroke (good fight).

Originally posted by carver9
You didnt read the book at all. Deadpool didnt throw wolverine into the wall (Im sitting here looking at the book right now.), wolverine got up after they crashed through a glass roof and deadpool threw a sword at wolverine shoulder. He never threw him but in that book, wolverine was mud stomping deadpool, the entire time and we wouldnt have known how it would have ended if that wolf didnt show up. I dont even know why we are bothering to debate on this when we have 2 almost unbeatable people fighting against each other. A better fight would be spiderman vs deadpool (in which I think that deadpool would mop the floor with spiderman) or deadpool vs deathstroke (good fight).

[i]Originally posted by carver9
I dont even know why we are bothering to debate on this when we have 2 almost unbeatable people fighting against each other.

SInce when has this fight become who can kill who first quicker 😑

Originally posted by Kazenji
SInce when has this fight become who can kill who first quicker 😑

I guess you didnt understand what i typed, let me type it different. What i was saying is that, I dont know why you all are fussing over who would win when both of them can take about anything that either of them can dish out. The fight would last forever, if you have 2 people that can heal from almost anything going at each other. I could have sworn that on the forum, you use both at there full potential.

For once I do have to agree with Capt here, these are two characters that in their fights are often surrounded by different arrays of plot holes from both sides.

I will say though that in other feats department, its kind of hard to expect DP to have anywhere near the showings, espically consider he has been around maybe a third as long not to mention the over flowing amount of popularity surrounding the Wolverine character..

Either way im still stickin with DP FTW.

Originally posted by StarsNeverFall7
For once I do have to agree with Capt here, these are two characters that in their fights are often surrounded by different arrays of plot holes from both sides.

I will say though that in other feats department, its kind of hard to expect DP to have anywhere near the showings, espically consider he has been around maybe a third as long not to mention the over flowing amount of popularity surrounding the Wolverine character..

Either way im still stickin with DP FTW.

deadpool and spider-man fought recently, deadpool didnt exactly lose, but it didnt look like he was going to win though. spider-man seemed to be on top for the whole fight and then deadpool decided hed had enough and took a hostage.

i do think deadpool can beat wolverine. i just read the civil war deadpool/cable comic where he stumbles across cap hurcules, golioth and a few others. he doesnt win obviously but it was a very good showing. hes beaten wolverine before, and i dont think wolverine gives him the credit he deserves.

deadpool is one of, if not the best swordsman in marvel his healing factor is enough to recover from him missing most of his torso and get back up, and he has alot of guns and explosives. deadpool wins, but not easily.

Originally posted by Decay
deadpool and spider-man fought recently, deadpool didnt exactly lose, but it didnt look like he was going to win though. spider-man seemed to be on top for the whole fight and then deadpool decided hed had enough and took a hostage.

i do think deadpool can beat wolverine. i just read the civil war deadpool/cable comic where he stumbles across cap hurcules, golioth and a few others. he doesnt win obviously but it was a very good showing. hes beaten wolverine before, and i dont think wolverine gives him the credit he deserves.

deadpool is one of, if not the best swordsman in marvel his healing factor is enough to recover from him missing most of his torso and get back up, and he has alot of guns and explosives. deadpool wins, but not easily.

you did not give a good reason